[daneblazer]

Hero & Villain are good friends who thought it'd be fun to enter a $100 Six player winner take all sit and go. With 4 players left, they end up in a hand against each other. There are no splits, they are playing for each others money.

Starting stacks were 10,000 with moderate blind structure. Blinds 150/300 Hero raised 700 UTG with AdJc. Villain in the SB makes it 1850 to go. BB folds.

What is hero's play?

Hero Stack 15,000
Villain Stack 12,500
Pot 3,000

[BeerDog99]

Well I guess it depends on how the friend thinks the villian plays. I have a couple of good friends that I would shove on this situation because I know he tries to "out-play" me.

But for most of my poker playing friends, I would assume they are playing pretty solid and not 3-betting me light so I would pick a better spot with AJos and not try to flip against my friend for the tourney.

[Gruntworker]

Depends completely on your read of your friend. If it's your friend, you know how he/she plays. Could be an easy laydown or a smooth call. I wouldn't shove here b/c the possibility that he/she just woke up with a monster and is trying to let you off easy by 3 betting.

[BeerDog99]

Ya, I guess even with a maniac friend, they could wake up with a monster and that would suck for either friend. I think it is a fold either way now. Just slap your friend later if he was making a move on you :-)

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

Well I guess it depends on how the friend thinks the villian plays.

Depends completely on your read of your friend. If it's your friend, you know how he/she plays.

... AND, Hero has to take into account how he thinks his friend thinks HE plays (Can Hero determine that villain thinks it's relatively easy to move him off hands?)

Just slap your friend later if he was making a move on you :-)

Um... ah... well... NEVERMIND!

[daneblazer]

Out of 739 votes-

17.2% Raise
48.4% fold
34.4% call

In a faster blind structure, it may be time to take a stand here, but there is plenty of chips and time to wait for a better spot. There's a few hands that could be dominating hero such as AQ AK. Fold is the play here, unless the villain respects the hero's 4bet's a little too much.

[yisman]

Out of 739 votes-

17.2% Raise
48.4% fold
34.4% call

In a faster blind structure, it may be time to take a stand here, but there is plenty of chips and time to wait for a better spot. There's a few hands that could be dominating hero such as AQ AK. Fold is the play here, unless the villain respects the hero's 4bet's a little too much.

What does the last part mean?

[ronzer]

What does the last part mean?

if he respected his bet wouldn't he fold?

[daneblazer]

What does the last part mean?

If the villain is the type to only call a 4bet shove/raise with a premium hand like KK-AA and fold everything else then hero can consider a raise. A 4bet would potentially fold out much of villains 3bet range.

[thetrinity]

this is read dependent dont agree with this answer really, i could think of players i would do each option against, just saying fold is really nitty, if he folds aj to a 3bet preflop 4 handed then why wouldnt you just keep pressuring him?

[BiTeMe UsAdOj]

this is read dependent dont agree with this answer really, i could think of players i would do each option against, just saying fold is really nitty, if he folds aj to a 3bet preflop 4 handed then why wouldnt you just keep pressuring him?

Nice response.

And why just b/c 48.4% say fold it's deemed the "right" answer (it is if you throw the read dependent variable out the window for shits & giggles to get to an answer)