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    LOU -- Idea for next SBR poker series

    TY, Lou for the poker series; they are good stuff. I would like to pose an idea for the next one. We have been playing for months to qualify or satellite in to the big dance where the payoffs are nice. Instead, I think we should have a shorter qualifying period until cuts are made. This would be more like a tournament within a tournament, i.e. player of the year in the WSOP.

    You could run 4 of them per year, one for winter, spring, summer, and fall. I would say to have everyone play daily for a month then cut it down to the top 50. Let those 50 play daily the next month to determine the top 20. Then, let those 20 battle it out for 2 weeks and cut it down to 10 players. Those 10 would get to play daily in in a 1-table tournament for 2 weeks to determine the overall winner.

    I think this is an idea that a lot of people here will agree with. You could even start a consolation race with smaller payouts for the SBR players who didn't make the top 50 after the 1st month.

    This would allow the drama to unfold throughout each season! I love the current daily tournament format where we all get a chance to play one tournament per day. This is just an idea to change the overall rewards per poker series! Thank you for your consideration.

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    current format is fine.

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    Nothing wrong with your idea, but it wouldnt work for logistical reasons. There is NO WAY in hell that 10 people could show up and play at the same time.


    And under the current format, it forces more posters to play in the poker room. Under your format, it would be virtually empty after he first cut

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    I like the current format and I am not even near the top! Shouldnt have missed 2 weeks I guess.



    The only thing that I would change it not to pay 20 places. Any points won under 100 is a waste. Pay the top spots more and get rid of 11th-20th place

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    Here is what you need for next year:

    The same exact thing EXCEPT, add a special YEAR POINTS RACE.

    With the way it is now, people can qualify over and over but not win anything for finishing 1st during qualifying.

    50k points spread over the top 10 season long point earners in poker tourneys sounds good

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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Here is what you need for next year:

    The same exact thing EXCEPT, add a special YEAR POINTS RACE.

    With the way it is now, people can qualify over and over but not win anything for finishing 1st during qualifying.

    50k points spread over the top 10 season long point earners in poker tourneys sounds good
    I agree with Rudy 1,000,000%!

    Qualifying is great for cranking up the point count, but there should be some year end awards (points) too for the people that have taken the time to play in these tournaments and done well in them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    I agree with Rudy 1,000,000%!

    Qualifying is great for cranking up the point count, but there should be some year end awards (points) too for the people that have taken the time to play in these tournaments and done well in them.

    I like the idea.

    But do we include prizes won from major cashouts? Say someone wins 20k in a championship event. Is that 20K counted? What about weekend tourneys.


    And if there looking to add something maybe do a side setup team thing would be sort of entertaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    I like the idea.

    But do we include prizes won from major cashouts? Say someone wins 20k in a championship event. Is that 20K counted? What about weekend tourneys.
    TOP 20 in daily tourneys could receive (just for scoring purpose) from 20 points to 1 point (20 points first place, 19 second, and so on ...), x2 for weekend tourney (beat the Prick) and x5 for major tourneys ....

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    Tourneys that cater not just to the Americans time wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    I like the idea.

    But do we include prizes won from major cashouts? Say someone wins 20k in a championship event. Is that 20K counted? What about weekend tourneys.


    And if there looking to add something maybe do a side setup team thing would be sort of entertaining.
    The problem is if someone wins the big tournaments for real $$$, how does that translate into points?

    The way SBR does it now, at least on their poker page, is just through the weekday tournaments. I also understand the argument that weekend tournament results should be added to SBR's yearly Top 15 point earners http://www.sportsbookreview.com/poker/, but then you get into high weekend tournament totals and Championship totals points where someone would be uncatchable (not a real word, but fuk it) by playing in only a few tournments and cashing high. I am not sure that is a good thing, but like I said, I can understand the argument.

    Either way SBR decides to handle what events they take into account for the yearly totals is fine by me; but I do think there should be some award for the top 10 or 15 players, because those players have earned it throughout the whole year.

    Plus this would add another demision for players and competetion. Right now there is a bot at the top of the list, but eventually we'll figure "him" out and a real player will win SBR POY.

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    Here is my only major problem with SBR poker. After RO there is very little incentive to play which cause Ring games to be close to vacant. BRING BACK SIT N GO's!..

    Now back on topic: Tournaments. These series last to long, and lack a huge motivation to keep people coming back. Lou I think we finally need a SBR Ring or Bracelet series. Maybe setup our own Small WSOP? Forget the points or the cash pal, I want something I can make videos taunting my opponents with. Nothing says Look at my huge e-peen that Poker Bling.

    It's time I get my bracelet or at least series ring pal. Maybe that would be it Lou? Have a month long qualifier, then let the top 50 play for the Ring. Repeat that 4-5 times. Then Make a 200 player Main event for the Bracelet?

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    A Poker tourney series would be sick. The SBR Series of Poker (SSOP) could be held in a week different kind of tourney each day with reasonably high buy ins and satellites leading up to them.

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    Nice to think outside the box, however, this idea is all chopped up, and while the tourney goes on for the fifty and then 20 etc.... All those cut would be sitting around waiting for the eteral end. Your idea is chopped !! :O)

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    I love how this discussion started. I just provided an idea for the future. Gary, also included in my idea was that for the people that did not make the top 50 after the first month, there would be another consolation series for them during the rest of that season. It was just an idea that I threw out there.

    My main point was pretty much what Rudy said also. The top guys who do well in the series for months on end should be rewarded. As it works now the person who either qualifies or satellites in and wins the big one reaps 95% of the reward for the series.. Winning one tournament doesn't reward the grinders who deserve it the most IMO.

    I love the idea of season long prizes based on points accumulated through the daily tournaments. I mean right now the guy who qualifies 1st place has no benefit over the guy who gets 50th or even 200th and satellites in.

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    Also, totally agree with borednaz. When you "win" poker points through the daily tournaments of course we must roll them over before being able to see them. This leads to most of the time not winning anything. However, if we are lucky enough to complete the rollover and the points became ours, there is no incentive at all to keep playing the cash tables. We all just end up paying rake together if we're not rolling over points. There is no FPP program, cash game rewards, rakeback, leaderboard, etc.

    Again, I'm not trying to put down SBR poker as I have played countless hours of it but there's always room for improvement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GUMMO77 View Post
    The problem is if someone wins the big tournaments for real $$$, how does that translate into points?

    The way SBR does it now, at least on their poker page, is just through the weekday tournaments. I also understand the argument that weekend tournament results should be added to SBR's yearly Top 15 point earners http://www.sportsbookreview.com/poker/, but then you get into high weekend tournament totals and Championship totals points where someone would be uncatchable (not a real word, but fuk it) by playing in only a few tournments and cashing high. I am not sure that is a good thing, but like I said, I can understand the argument.

    Either way SBR decides to handle what events they take into account for the yearly totals is fine by me; but I do think there should be some award for the top 10 or 15 players, because those players have earned it throughout the whole year.

    Plus this would add another demision for players and competetion. Right now there is a bot at the top of the list, but eventually we'll figure "him" out and a real player will win SBR POY.

    If given a voice my vote would go to only including the weekly tourneys. The weekends have large buyins, are not available to some due to bankroll constrictions and the special events are only played by select individuals (example Ryder Cup). Using the weekly event with 11 buyin all SBR pros have the opportunity to play

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    dtp, for a month, everyone is in the hunt. After 1 month, are the other 150+ players supposed to sit around for a month while the 50 play to get down to 20 players?
    Last edited by eberetta1; 11-28-12 at 08:47 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eberetta1 View Post
    dtp, for a month, everyone is in the hunt. After 1 month, are the other 150+ player supposed to sit around for a month on their thumbs while the 50 play to get down to 20 players?
    Yeah agree with this - players want to play poker every day.

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    I'm going to say this again. I Need a SBR POKER RING, WATCH Or BRACELET! I don't care the format. Make it happen.

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    Let me & Rudy run the poker here. It'll be like Full Tilt Lite.
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    I for one think Dane would be an excellent poker overlord.. (Once he pays me the agreed upon points so saying so).

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    i like boreds idea of a big series of some sort with bigger buy ins and maybe different forms of poker (limit holdem, plo, stud, etc) maybe once or twice a year.

    i think current format is good, first one was way 2 long, this format members can use their daily points to play in this series, around an 8-10 week "regular season" is about right.

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    4567 AM tourney plz
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    Quote Originally Posted by RudyRuetigger View Post
    Here is what you need for next year:

    The same exact thing EXCEPT, add a special YEAR POINTS RACE.

    With the way it is now, people can qualify over and over but not win anything for finishing 1st during qualifying.

    50k points spread over the top 10 season long point earners in poker tourneys sounds good
    I 2nd that idea Rudy

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    I would like to see more action in the poker room period! Its so dead,makes roll over difficult. Sit n go"s sounds good.

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    Just a few off the top of my head and without knowing the limitations of the software...

    Having a SBR-Series of Poker would be a fun. Have about 10 or so different types of tournaments sometime between the beginning of the WSOP and the Bash. Have badges as the "bracelets" and they wouldn't expire.

    Don't need any more different daily games like razz, pineapple, and as much as I like it, Stud. We can't fill up the games we have already.

    On that note, SNG's probably need to be put on hold too unless...

    They are used as satellites. If we are going to have a Series of Poker or a big weekend tournament, we need to have satellites. The High Roller tournaments died due to lack of interest. If you have satellites a few days a week where people could win their way in by paying 25 instead of 500 then interest will increase. Could take it a step further and take a day of the week, like Friday since it's close to the weekend, and give winners of the daily tournaments tokens instead of the points which they normally would have to roll-over. (yes, your points would still count in whatever contest we have). Then have 2-3 satellites Saturday and Sunday and suddenly you have 10 entries and 2500 guaranteed points in the high-roller. More people would sign up using their own points if there are more players.

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    Only way to create action in cash games is to create a rake race where you get incentives for contributing to it

    Or, there has to be a deposit bonus where you can deposit real points into poker. The points would turn into sbr poker points until you rollover enough to release deposit bonus.

    So 1000 points deposited into poker

    Those 1000 will be turned into 2000 betpoints instead.
    After about 10x rollover, they will all turn to regular points

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    Make the buy-in 100 points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duff85 View Post
    Tourneys that cater not just to the Americans time wise.
    Sorry but it's Texas Holdem, not copehagen call em or Berlin bluff em.

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