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    is this a slowroll?

    was playing 1/2 nl on 5 dimes yesterday, which i never play cash online usually, but i had some time to kill and didnt want to get invested in a long tournament.

    anyways i had 10j suited hearts on the button or cutoff (cant remember which) all folds tho so it doesnt really matter for this example and i open to 6.

    bb defends, its heads up to flop.

    flop was 3d3c10c he checks i bet 8 he calls.

    turn was the 10d we both check.

    river 6d he checks i bet 21 he makes it 68 (has about 80 behind i have him covered) i think for about 5-10 seconds and call (obviously wasnt folding, was debating on if i had any chance of getting the rest of his chips) and he shows 22 for the board and i win. he claims he was slowrolled, which i laughed in his face basically. just making sure im not out of line here. im open to discuss how the hand was played in general as well.

    this is a 6 handed game as well, not full ring.

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    That was a slow roll if you are only going to call. Yes that was extremely slow.

    A call there should have been within 1 second if you are not going to raise.



    Now if you take that long and raise, then that is fine. You are trying to convey a hand like a bluf. But just to call after that long is a slowroll

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    Not a slow roll. Guy needs to get over it. Online people are multi-tasking often. Not like you were hollywooding it at a live table.

    ...out of curiosity, why wouldn't you want to shove the river after he raises?
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    looks like a clear river raise

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    Quote Originally Posted by playersonly69 View Post
    That was a slow roll if you are only going to call. Yes that was extremely slow.

    A call there should have been within 1 second if you are not going to raise.



    Now if you take that long and raise, then that is fine. You are trying to convey a hand like a bluf. But just to call after that long is a slowroll
    im not allowed to think about raising and then just decide to call? if hes allin then yes it is a slowroll for sure.

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    im glad you guys brought this up, me just calling.

    reasoning:

    1. he never plays just the 3 like this IMO or even 66. if hes playing it as a bluff catcher, he just calls my river bet, if hes going for value, hed bet into me (more likely with those types of hands). ax and pocket pairs or 6x are perfect bluff catchers and would just call the river bet.

    2. he has the other 10 (chop, and hes never folding for 80 dollars more). a bluff (not calling anything else anyways) or pocket 3s (would be an extreme cooler), so i really felt nothing i had beat would call me.

    a little added bonus was that i would get to see what he had due to the software on that room if it was a bluff, this didnt really factor into my decision however.

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    who cares slow roll all day and boss up and get that money

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    was playing 1/2 nl on 5 dimes yesterday, which i never play cash online usually, but i had some time to kill and didnt want to get invested in a long tournament.

    anyways i had 10j suited hearts on the button or cutoff (cant remember which) all folds tho so it doesnt really matter for this example and i open to 6.

    bb defends, its heads up to flop.

    flop was 3d3c10c he checks i bet 8 he calls.

    turn was the 10d we both check.

    river 6d he checks i bet 21 he makes it 68 (has about 80 behind i have him covered) i think for about 5-10 seconds and call (obviously wasnt folding, was debating on if i had any chance of getting the rest of his chips) and he shows 22 for the board and i win. he claims he was slowrolled, which i laughed in his face basically. just making sure im not out of line here. im open to discuss how the hand was played in general as well.

    this is a 6 handed game as well, not full ring.
    The fact that you thought about something makes it not a slow roll really. I would then have put a note on him to slowroll him everytime you have him beat. A proper slowroll would have been to let your whole clock run off, while typing in likely hands that he may have in the chat box, before finishing off with "Fukk it, i'll gamble" before shoving your stack in the middle.

    I make a point of slow rolling any one that pisses me off at the poker table.

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    i agree duff i had a legit decision or at least a semi decision to make and yes if that is gona bother him i should use it to my advantage later on, never really had another chance to, he left soon after.

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    I don't think it is even possible to slow roll online. You had a great hand (post flop) but it is easy to get side-tracked when playing online.
    Not to mention - You bet the river and the other person raises. I have seen alot of people shove their entire bankroll on a hand like yours only to discover that the other person had 33 in the hole. 5-10 seconds is not that long at all and the person you were playing made a poor raise. If you had 7 or better he knows he is a goner.

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    Not a slowroll. But who really cares anyway. If you open the door for someone and they don't say "thank you", do you reflect on it later in the day? Probably not. The guy needs to STFU and get over it.

    If you get slowrolled, say FU to the other player, then proceed with life.

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    If you don't have the best possible hand that is unbeatable (the NUTS), then it can NEVER be a slowroll. A strong hand is not a slowroll.

    Hate whiners.

    You were fine.

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    Two guys in Cherokee, nc were going at it, river comes and there was a bet then a shove...guy uses his time bank, calls the waitress over and orders food. Then right before the clock expires he calls and flips over the stones. That's a fukkin slow roll.
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    I don't live to far from Cherokee. I never went there because I thought it was all video slots. I may check it out this weekend.
    Quote Originally Posted by daneblazer View Post
    Two guys in Cherokee, nc were going at it, river comes and there was a bet then a shove...guy uses his time bank, calls the waitress over and orders food. Then right before the clock expires he calls and flips over the stones. That's a fukkin slow roll.

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    A slow roll is a dick move. To each his own but people should show some class in my opinion.

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    I don't give a shit how long anyone takes personally. How does it affect me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I don't give a shit how long anyone takes personally. How does it affect me?
    Oh yeah, tiddler!

    Of course it affects you and I'd tell you how & why but just b/c of your attitude, I'm gonna slowroll my response so don't expect to see it for a few days!


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    i dont think the play itself is very bad by him. it looked really strong, even moreso since hed been tight up to that point. definitely some hands i would have bet that he could have gotten me off with that play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BiTeMe UsAdOj View Post

    Oh yeah, tiddler!

    Of course it affects you and I'd tell you how & why but just b/c of your attitude, I'm gonna slowroll my response so don't expect to see it for a few days!

    I'm holding my breath waiting

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    Haha he played his 22 like an idiot, gotta love online fish..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thetrinity View Post
    was playing 1/2 nl on 5 dimes yesterday, which i never play cash online usually, but i had some time to kill and didnt want to get invested in a long tournament.

    anyways i had 10j suited hearts on the button or cutoff (cant remember which) all folds tho so it doesnt really matter for this example and i open to 6.

    bb defends, its heads up to flop.

    flop was 3d3c10c he checks i bet 8 he calls.

    turn was the 10d we both check.

    river 6d he checks i bet 21 he makes it 68 (has about 80 behind i have him covered) i think for about 5-10 seconds and call (obviously wasnt folding, was debating on if i had any chance of getting the rest of his chips) and he shows 22 for the board and i win. he claims he was slowrolled, which i laughed in his face basically. just making sure im not out of line here. im open to discuss how the hand was played in general as well.

    this is a 6 handed game as well, not full ring.






    Very hard to categorically say that this was a slow roll when you are playing online. The guy could be multi-tabling or have even had to answer his phone, could be having connection problems. I play online and have taken more time than needed before calling with the nuts and been slagged off for "slow rolling" when I wasn't.......I think live then its a different story.









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    Quote Originally Posted by qwertvt View Post
    I don't live to far from Cherokee. I never went there because I thought it was all video slots. I may check it out this weekend.
    They have poker, black jack, and nearly everything else. Just migrated from poker pro tables to real cards just recently

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    No slow roll. Just a an awful play by him

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    thinking about raising is obv fine although calling is usually best

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    i dont see why he played 22 so bad, highly unlikely i have the 10, his line looks really strong on the river, if he had been playing wild it was bad but he was playing pretty snug for about 10 orbits, i really expected to see the other 10 when i called.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragster View Post
    Very hard to categorically say that this was a slow roll when you are playing online. The guy could be multi-tabling or have even had to answer his phone, could be having connection problems. I play online and have taken more time than needed before calling with the nuts and been slagged off for "slow rolling" when I wasn't.......I think live then its a different story.









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    im the guy in the hand, the opponent is accusing me of the slowroll. it was an honest decision between call and raise, there was no lag or anything like that.

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