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    secretstash
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    SBR John.. Jacks or Better VIDEO POKER paying less than 4000 coins for royal flush?

    why was this changed?

    of course I hit one today

    but losing out on 7500 pts without even knowing the payout was changed wasnt the most fun way of celebrating.. i was more ticked off than anything LOL

    dont get me wrong +7k in pts on the day is nice.. but I am down 40k lifetime in sbr casino.. so why not pay me the same amount it has been paying before?


    Do the right thing sbr John.. ship me 7500

    -stash

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    were you max betting? if so that's pretty grimy...

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    Quote Originally Posted by stuntin909 View Post
    were you max betting? if so that's pretty grimy...
    yes of course.. open up vp urself the payouts has changed to 2500 for royal which is 1500 less than the standard of 4000 coins.

    -stash

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    Hi secret,

    Actually the payoffs are entirely visible in the game window.

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    stash, give me 10 points for opening this thread.

    thanks pal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Lou View Post
    Hi secret,

    Actually the payoffs are entirely visible in the game window.
    yes i realize that now lou.. but 2500 for royal at max bet is definitely a change from 4000.. i wouldnt even know to look for such a thing.. i mean 4000 is standard unless ur playing some type of wild dueces or something game.

    im not saying the payout isnt visible.. but changing a payout to a normal game not a hybrid like jokers wild or deuces wild is just unexpected is all.. honestly i wouldnt have played as much if i had known..



    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    yes i realize that now lou.. but 2500 for royal at max bet is definitely a change from 4000.. i wouldnt even know to look for such a thing.. i mean 4000 is standard unless ur playing some type of wild dueces or something game.

    im not saying the payout isnt visible.. but changing a payout to a normal game not a hybrid like jokers wild or deuces wild is just unexpected is all.. honestly i wouldnt have played as much if i had known..

    -stash
    have you not seen all the threads about the store prices being jacked with no notice

    or the fact that they did indeed take down the nba championship futures before the first tip....only to put them back up 2 minutes after i question them via live chat

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    yes i realize that now lou.. but 2500 for royal at max bet is definitely a change from 4000.. i wouldnt even know to look for such a thing.. i mean 4000 is standard unless ur playing some type of wild dueces or something game.

    im not saying the payout isnt visible.. but changing a payout to a normal game not a hybrid like jokers wild or deuces wild is just unexpected is all.. honestly i wouldnt have played as much if i had known..



    -stash
    matter of fact 4000 payoff is standard in all dgs casino softwares which u use as well.

    i didnt even know u could edit the payouts like that.. cant find one other book that uses that software that has it as low as sbr....i tried half the sbr sponsors just a moment ago.. but i guess its ur choice.. just feel it is a poor one and not fair to the player nor even close to overlaying a decent percent payout return.

    ty for ur time

    -stash

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    stash its been this way for a while i hit one about 3 weeks ago on 4 coins and noticed it i posted a thread and got a all are subject to change.. Never seen a royal anywhere pay that.

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    This game is a mystery. DGS(the casino provider) swears the game is fair and has had it certified by a company that we recommended. But many DGS licensee's including SBR have complained about the amount of royals dealt and lack of overall hold percentage. At least one sportsbook has removed it and does not currently offer it. This is the game Corey beat Ezstreet out of $46k, except they didn't pay.

    I think the game is fine but we will keep the payouts subdued until at least we turn a profit on this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    This game is a mystery. DGS(the casino provider) swears the game is fair and has had it certified by a company that we recommended. But many DGS licensee's including SBR have complained about the amount of royals dealt and lack of overall hold percentage. At least one sportsbook has removed it and does not currently offer it. This is the game Corey beat Ezstreet out of $46k, except they didn't pay.

    I think the game is fine but we will keep the payouts subdued until at least we turn a profit on this game.
    honestly i have given the casino at sbr 40k+ pts and I have hit two royals .. the 40k NEGATIVE is the NET amount.. so if u havent made a profit off me then ur treasury department needs to be audited

    they are stealing pts by the bucket loads

    just playing bout the theft.. but plz shoot me the 7500 john when u get a moment

    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    This is the game Corey beat Ezstreet out of $46k, except they didn't pay.
    That eureka moment when you learn what the company doesn't know... I remember some dude exploited some TicTacToe scratch cards because he figured out the patterns.

    Opportunities like these are drying out faster and faster... but new games always creates new chances for mistakes and errors.

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    whenever a player hits BIG there is always an investigation because no way this should happen

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    John call this prick a wambulance cryass punk.

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    why not just lower the payback on full houses and flushes like everyone else? kinda defeats the purpose of a. max betting b. even playing

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    Quote Originally Posted by frizzelli View Post
    John call this prick a wambulance cryass punk.
    Send this man his diapers!

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    Could you imagine of SBR banned secretrash from points, the little dweeb would be on suicide watch and his whole world would be crushed.Unfukkinreal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frizzelli View Post
    Could you imagine of SBR banned secretrash from points, the little dweeb would be on suicide watch and his whole world would be crushed.Unfukkinreal.
    some people like pts.. others like to flame and bash on the internet.. we all know which u prefer ;...

    -stash

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    I must say again totally shocked at this occurence.

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    so they cut 37.5 % of the payout off the royal flush?

    you got to be kidding me

    LOL!

    who would even play the game anymore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    This game is a mystery. DGS(the casino provider) swears the game is fair and has had it certified by a company that we recommended. But many DGS licensee's including SBR have complained about the amount of royals dealt and lack of overall hold percentage. At least one sportsbook has removed it and does not currently offer it. This is the game Corey beat Ezstreet out of $46k, except they didn't pay.

    I think the game is fine but we will keep the payouts subdued until at least we turn a profit on this game.
    Ever heard of variance, John? I've seen people hit back to back royals on Game King machines. Big deal.

    The game is currently set to a 97.7284% return with perfect play. What are you scared of?
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    Sorry to hear about it Stash! For real man, you're down 40K and sbr is "not" making a profit? Royal Flush ass fuking is more like it. You'd think they would at least do right and give you a better payout than that, since you're way on the negative side anyway. Pretty fuk'in ironic, they'll let one guy win two fuk'in Ipads, but long time players here like you and I can't get shit, except a smoke up your ass excuse!

    Pay the man his fuk'in winnings SBR. Like you're losing shit on a guy who's lost 40k in that shit fuk casino!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    I think the game is fine but we will keep the payouts subdued until at least we turn a profit on this game.
    This is exactly how you don't get your money back. You have a clear advantage. Yet, you're now turning people away from playing the game.

    Makes zero sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikejamm View Post
    Sorry to hear about it Stash! For real man, you're down 40K and sbr is "not" making a profit? Royal Flush ass fuking is more like it. You'd think they would at least do right and give you a better payout than that, since you're way on the negative side anyway. Pretty fuk'in ironic, they'll let one guy win two fuk'in Ipads, but long time players here like you and I can't get shit, except a smoke up your ass excuse!

    Pay the man his fuk'in winnings SBR. Like you're losing shit on a guy who's lost 40k in that shit fuk casino!
    its my own fault for losing as much as I have.. but the fact is that I am way way down in the casino lifetime and as far as profit goes.. they have 5 ipads from me (based on old price when I would have bought them).. thats bout 3000$ minimum I tanked to sbr

    -stash

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    This is exactly how you don't get your money back. You have a clear advantage. Yet, you're now turning people away from playing the game.

    Makes zero sense.
    i agree with this statement.

    in fact I wont ever be playing video poker again here until the coins are back to 4000 payout.

    so if they want my 40k in net losses business back they will restore them for the future and fix what has been made wrong.

    -stash

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    Nice hit SS

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    its my own fault for losing as much as I have.. but the fact is that I am way way down in the casino lifetime and as far as profit goes.. they have 5 ipads from me (based on old price when I would have bought them).. thats bout 3000$ minimum I tanked to sbr

    -stash
    sbr doesn't have any "profit" lifetime from you since all they have collected is points that they gave out for free in the first place

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikejamm View Post
    Sorry to hear about it Stash! For real man, you're down 40K and sbr is "not" making a profit? Royal Flush ass fuking is more like it. You'd think they would at least do right and give you a better payout than that, since you're way on the negative side anyway. Pretty fuk'in ironic, they'll let one guy win two fuk'in Ipads, but long time players here like you and I can't get shit, except a smoke up your ass excuse!

    Pay the man his fuk'in winnings SBR. Like you're losing shit on a guy who's lost 40k in that shit fuk casino!
    "they'll let one guy win two fuk'in Ipads"

    hope you're talking about boeing power and not me since i borrowed 10,000 points for my 2nd one

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    sbr doesn't have any "profit" lifetime from you since all they have collected is points that they gave out for free in the first place
    fact of the matter is though. i am -40k in the video poker casino.. if I hadnt played their chasing a royal again I would have bought 4 ipads under new price and more realistically 5 of them in old price.. so they did "profit"


    I saved them $2k+

    Only thing I have ever bought in sbr store is charity donations.. I play with pts and lend them for fun.. but if I can help out a charity or two I will and have..

    I should have spent the 40k on st jude and then I would really have no gripes.. imagine them getting a check for $4500 from sbr on that note

    -stash

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    So, Corey was stiffed so you are going to stick it to the members cause a few Royals have been hit?

    A payoff of that amount has a hold of around 10%
    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post
    This game is a mystery. DGS(the casino provider) swears the game is fair and has had it certified by a company that we recommended. But many DGS licensee's including SBR have complained about the amount of royals dealt and lack of overall hold percentage. At least one sportsbook has removed it and does not currently offer it. This is the game Corey beat Ezstreet out of $46k, except they didn't pay.

    I think the game is fine but we will keep the payouts subdued until at least we turn a profit on this game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    fact of the matter is though. i am -40k in the video poker casino.. if I hadnt played their chasing a royal again I would have bought 4 ipads under new price and more realistically 5 of them in old price.. so they did "profit"


    I saved them $2k+

    Only thing I have ever bought in sbr store is charity donations.. I play with pts and lend them for fun.. but if I can help out a charity or two I will and have..

    I should have spent the 40k on st jude and then I would really have no gripes.. imagine them getting a check for $4500 from sbr on that note

    -stash
    i understand that. but there's no way you would've gotten 40k in points without winning at poker, sportsbook, casino, etc

    at 12 points/day it would take over 9 years to accumulate that many points and you've only been here 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    "they'll let one guy win two fuk'in Ipads"

    hope you're talking about boeing power and not me since i borrowed 10,000 points for my 2nd one


    Last time I was in the SBR casino I won an ipad3 and that was exactly 1 month ago
    i only go there if there's a promo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    i understand that. but there's no way you would've gotten 40k in points without winning at poker, sportsbook, casino, etc

    at 12 points/day it would take over 9 years to accumulate that many points and you've only been here 2
    in this example ^ sbr is still giving me the pts.. no matter what.. atleast by winning some in the poker room (roughly 30k+ this past year) I have had to use my own skill to obtain them

    in either case here im fighting a losing war.. i wont be playing video poker until the payouts are corrected.. so they will lose roughly 5k in action from me a month minimum if they dont correct it.

    -stash

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