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Folding QQ preflop
Everytime I get QQ i lose. I bet on the flop, get put all in (with only undercards on the board), I call the all in, and have the guy dominated. Then he catches 2 pair, trips, runner runner flush, etc.
Would I be better off just folding this hand preflop? i know it sounds like a dumb question, but had I not been playing QQ for the past 2 weeks I would be up $100 (at least), but instead I lose 8/10 i play it.
same here the ladies haunt me the most
i think you're having observational bias...
there have been, say, 80% of the times that you've had QQ that they haven't been cracked. remembering the times that they have is a lot easier.
might as well start folding KK and AA preflop too then
You do not lose every time with QQ.
Yes, this is a dumb question.
Folding QQ, preflop is dumb, however, overplaying them is also dumb.
You should definitely fold every pair PF, only play 27 and maybe 93 sometimes. Mix it up
Welcome to sbr poker. Doesn't matter if you're hold'in AA, larger stack or player chosen by sbr to win that night will bust your ass everytime! QQ you ask? Unless you flop quads, just fuk'in muck them!
yepp... almost never, pretty good starting hand...Originally Posted by noober
QQ is overrated. One should only play suited connectors.
I'll take QQ as a starting hand evertime and take my chances.
Go to YouTube and search for how to play JJ.
Fukcing hilarious!!
not enough data to reach the conclusion. play more and you will find QQ most time treat u well.
If you want to be a losing player long term than yes fold QQ.
Yes...Just fold it
fold everything preflop - will save you tons of bad beats
I won't ever do it.. If I lose then Ill lose..
You never fold pre-flop with QQ unless you get called all-in and suspect other player has you beat with AA or KK.
Just don't *** in your pants like a lot of people do, start betting stupidly heavy or go all in preflop with it. Just call, if someone raises a reasonable amount, call that to see the flop.
yeah i feel like im cursed with qq, would rather have pocket jacks any day. its gotten so bad i even gave that hand a nickname "the gold diggers" because they always burn me for my chips almost every time.
instead of folding pre-flop ive started pushing all-in and hoping to just get the blinds. they hold up a little better against 1 opponent.
looks like they don't believe u. if you play solid they'll respect u alil.
Qq is bad luck for me, but will only fold if the play suggests I am against aces or kings.
Ah man...i could ponder on this sort of question all night. You guys can shoot all the odds and percentages out at me all you want, all night long. EVERY time i get pocket aces, no matter how i play the hand, weather i raise pre-flop, smooth call, i'll flop a set and sometimes i'll raise, sometimes i'll check. But in all honesty it doesn't matter and if i still had access to all of my hands played over the last year, i would gladly gather up photo evidence to show you guys how insane this really is. I lose with pocket aces 99.9% of the time and my heart actually sinks when i look down at my hole cards and see those two ******* A's popping out at me.
I'd say no though, play the bitches.
To those mad about losing with AA, KK, QQ, etc.... You have to know when to fold QQ, KK, AA, etc.... on a scary board and when up against an oppponent that is providing resistance. It's always not about the hand you hold, but the hand range you think your opponent holds. It's still just a 1 pair hand
FWIW, I'm rarely folding QQ pre-flop but there are specific situations and circumstances in which I would.
everyone has their badluck hand. some people it's AA, some people it's AK, for you it's QQ. They lose like 10-15% more w/ those hands than most people do, just because of variance. It might be a good idea to start folding QQ on the flop unless you flop top set. can't remember how many times i lose with QQ. also let me know where and which tables you frequent.
what is all this bad luck hand bs. come on guys it's the 3rd highest hand in terms of +EV. If you want to get technical, that means you lose money everytime you fold it preflop. My guess is that you're just in a downswing. If it continues for several months, then that means you play them wrong.
When I say bad luck, I mean for me, qq is the hand I have that seems to run into aces more than any other. However, I agree with you. I am not folding qq preflop unless I have a great read that they are no good.
Btb
Just bad luck, however I dotn think i Could fold QQ preflop. Ive done it once only and that was for a cash tourny where everyone before me was all in and over the top. Hoewver, 95% of the time I cant see myself laying those cards down.
30replies..30 different answers
I think a lot of the answers offer pretty similar advice. In poker general questions like these are near impossible to answer with a simple answer. Poker is a game of situations and without specific examples it's hard to say what is the correct play, IMO.
Example: If your 3rd in Chips on the bubble of a major tournament and the chip leader (nit and his PFR is 5%) just happens to be at your table to your immediate left. Your on the button and UTG Raises all in and MP1 Raises all in when it gets to the Chip Leader in the Cutoff he 4bet shoves all in. Are you calling? I'm going to fold here because I've seen an all-in Raise, an all-in re-raise, and a 4bet shove by the chip leader who is a nit. Your almost NEVER ahead here and QQ's aren't playing that well in a 4way+ pot. You have plenty of chips and plenty of time to get your money in the middle in better situations.
Obviously, the above is an extreme example but it's hard to give advice on such general questions. Basically I'm rarely folding QQ pre, but there are situations in which I would.
Last edited by grind4moneyz; 07-17-11 at 10:27 AM.
i have folded QQ only once chip leader was all in one guy had stack 2bb and it was bouble had to fold to get in the money
This ^^^
Just like sports betting, people rarely remember the lucky breaks or times they won easy, versus their bad beats.
Don't fold QQ preflop very often heh.
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