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    McCain

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    Obama will have to stop back peddling and make a stand. Don't think his constituents will allow it. Remember, four years ago people were as sick of Bush as they are now. No way was he gonna win.
    I'm not even sure the Democrats want to win. They just want to assist in the preservation of the status quo. Thats why they will likely compliment each other on their pregnant lesbian daughters and what not. Say how they got to unite as one nation against the evil world no matter who wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    This is interesting...SBR John is rooting for McCain and The Shrink is rooting for Obama. I would have expected them to root the opposite but not necessarily with this order.
    I thought I made it clear I'm not pulling for him. Its kind of like betting on a team you dont like because you can see they are very undervalued.

    In my capping of this I see the race getting very close. One is an unknown who peaked early and the other is a senior senator and war hero.

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    John,

    Please check your private messages.

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    John,

    +155 is available at Las Palmas, albeit with a low limit.

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    Wouldn't you expect to get better numbers on McCain just because online sports bettors are more likely to lean to the left than the right? This forum seems to support that theory, as many of the posters are either pro-Obama or anti-McCain (or both).

    It would make sense, though, that the UIGEA-supporting crowd is unlikely to be online placing bets on the Presidential race. I don't think that the line ever gets too close to even just based on the demographics of the money coming in.

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    If you lean to the left, you should be betting on McCain as a hedge to maximize your utility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
    If you lean to the left, you should be betting on McCain as a hedge to maximize your utility.
    If sports bettors all did what they ought to do, the sportsbooks would go out of business. I think you taught me that.

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    Here is why Obama will kick McCain's ass in November. #1 is that McCain is a republican and the country is much worse than it was eight years ago because of the worst Republican President ever ( and McCain voted the same way as this joker nearly 95% of the time). 2nd is that Obama voted against this insane war. Plus , dare I say he's black (partialy anyway...although he has never embraced his white side). Prepare for your first black president ever. He's the lesser of two evils.

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    and yet bush won in 2000 and 2004 and there was no logical reason for that

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    Another factor to consder is that SBR John's political and stock market threads never pan out. He's always on the losing side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
    If you lean to the left, you should be betting on McCain as a hedge to maximize your utility.
    Interesting idea. I say bet on Obama, if McCain wins the world might not last long enough for you to enjoy the money.

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    Obama is dropping like crazy. Might be moving towards pick. McCain certainly got his post Palin bump, but those don't always hold. More troublesome is that now the media has Palin to fawn over for two months, so it is possible it could hold.

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    I see the latest Gallup Poll released today has McCain ahead 48% to 45%. Seems there's value on McCain if it's still +150.

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    Nationwide polls have zero bearing on the election outcome. Electoral votes win elections and McCain is trailing badly in the battleground states. It doesn't matter if he wins Arizona and Alaska by 90% of the votes.
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    Lines for Mccain dropped all over, i see +117 on WSEX and +118 on DSI

    looks like the +150's are over

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    Damn... this is dropping fast... I saw +150 a couple days ago on matchbook... down to +123 today (just over a $1000 available)... Clearly the Palin and Republican convention boost...

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    It's just a bump he got from the recent "pep rally". He'll return to +150 status next month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LVHerbie View Post
    Damn... this is dropping fast... I saw +150 a couple days ago on matchbook... down to +123 today (just over a $1000 available)... Clearly the Palin and Republican convention boost...
    Best time to bet Obama is now. The price is right.

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    The GOP and Palin bounces are helping McCain right now. Once the debates start, I think he and Palin are going down hard. Although I don't think we'll ever see another landslide presidential election.

    I think Obama wins, but won't be by much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Slew View Post
    The GOP and Palin bounces are helping McCain right now. Once the debates start, I think he and Palin are going down hard. Although I don't think we'll ever see another landslide presidential election.

    I think Obama wins, but won't be by much.
    If Palin was going down hard, she wouldn't have so many kids.

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    I agree on your points, but Obama didn't vote against the Iraq war. He wasn't in the Senate at the time. He spoke out against it while a state Senator in Illinois.

    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Here is why Obama will kick McCain's ass in November. #1 is that McCain is a republican and the country is much worse than it was eight years ago because of the worst Republican President ever ( and McCain voted the same way as this joker nearly 95% of the time). 2nd is that Obama voted against this insane war. Plus , dare I say he's black (partialy anyway...although he has never embraced his white side). Prepare for your first black president ever. He's the lesser of two evils.

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    I'm a Democrat but I think McCain will win These idiots would rather work their ass off all week and see their taxes stay the same so the owner of the corporation gets a nice tax cut for the work they do! Yeah McOld's judgement is so good he said we could be Iraq for 100 years Bradley factor wins it for McOld though...people don't want to tell the person taking the poll how racist they are but you wait till they get behind the curtain!

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    Step right up if you want to bet McCain.....I'd be happy to book anyone's bet.

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    Mccain

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyBear View Post
    Step right up if you want to bet McCain.....I'd be happy to book anyone's bet.
    holmes, the books have a max on this. you dont have enough cash to back your ass. mcold is easier money than the usa winning the gold in hoops

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    Quote Originally Posted by raydog View Post
    holmes, the books have a max on this. you dont have enough cash to back your ass. mcold is easier money than the usa winning the gold in hoops
    yeah, real easy money

    Considering every political science model shows Obama winning and every electoral map you look at has Obama essentially winning, it's hard to see how McCain is going to win unless things turn dramatically in this campaign. True, he's becoming more conservative but I still think independent/undecided voters will break for Obama.

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    Buddy Bear, you think Obama could finish the election with 48% of the vote and still win the Electoral college? I know it is possible, but at 48% I don't seem him getting enough in key swing states to pull it out.

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    does mccain get over 48%?
    highly doubtful
    it will take a lil while but they will tell the truth about this crazy nutcase broad from eskimo land

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuddyBear View Post
    yeah, real easy money

    Considering every political science model shows Obama winning and every electoral map you look at has Obama essentially winning, it's hard to see how McCain is going to win unless things turn dramatically in this campaign. True, he's becoming more conservative but I still think independent/undecided voters will break for Obama.
    Obama is my guy. He is the best bet for an online gaming concern.

    But..... i've started betting McCain above +150. Currently got +155 and looking for a better price to get my fill.

    Forget politics. I got a family to feed(actually just want to make some cash but the cliche always sounds good). And lets face it, at +155 McCain is a live dog.

    BTW, its nice to see BuddyBear back in the saddle. Good guy. Hard on SBR at times but really nice to see him in the main forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raydog View Post
    holmes, the books have a max on this. you dont have enough cash to back your ass. mcold is easier money than the usa winning the gold in hoops
    no max at betfair

    you could get millions on this

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    wtf? Betus has McCain at +125 but has the Republican party at +135 to win the Election......

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostno98 View Post
    Yeah the Palin ticket definitely hurts him. He should of got Colin Powell or Guilani instead.
    colin powell has let it slip out at times that he supports obama.i was hoping he didnt pick romney,because he would be strong with the economy.john said he wasnt strong on the economy,now he says he didnt say it.this country can not take 4 more years of bush policy.iam betting oboma,lets go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR_John View Post

    BTW, its nice to see BuddyBear back in the saddle. Good guy. Hard on SBR at times but really nice to see him in the main forum.
    Thanks SBR John! You know, actually, when I look back I feel terrible about some of the things I had said about SBR and after having spent some time on other gaming forums, I see that SBR is certainly the cream of the crop and goes to great lengths to provide the best possible information on each sportsbook. I know Bill and John are good guys and have done an amazing job.

    I joined the very first day of SBR and have been here since day 1 and have seen a tremendous growth in membership and interst with SBR. More people than ever rely on SBR to give them good honest information. SBR has always come through, but it hasn't always been easy. The industry is rapidly changing and SBR continues to adapt.

    I certainly appreciate all the hard work and committment from everyone at SBR!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoshW View Post
    Buddy Bear, you think Obama could finish the election with 48% of the vote and still win the Electoral college? I know it is possible, but at 48% I don't seem him getting enough in key swing states to pull it out.
    Well, we'll see. I personally think he'll need more than that to be safe, but elected presidents in the past have received far less percentage of the total vote and won.

    Right now, the electoral map shows an advantage for Obama and we have to do everything we can to defeat the Republicans in my opinion. If you can help out at a swing state (i.e. Ohio, Michigan, New Mexico, Nevada, New Hampshire, Virginia, and Colorado) please do so. It's just not worth it to live under Republican governance anymore.

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