[rsnnh12]

but where's the jobs?? .. And why is the rich getting richer while the middle class is in the dumpster....It sounds good rsnnh, but we all your 5 million to jobs, is just going into more boats and cars...

... there's jobs in the $5 mil reinvestment, in the building of the house/cars, and in the investments/savings...

See, your last sentence proves you really don't understand the "rich" like you think you do. You claim all they want is power and money, right? That's a fair point, I'm not going to disagree with it... its true for a lot of people. They don't get even more money/power by just taking the profits and buying crap. They get it by expanding their businesses even more, which, if they have a sound business plan, means more overall profits later on. The only reason business owners would not expand their businesses is if they don't think the expansion will be successful at that time (due to economy, competition, etc). It takes a LONG time for companies to reach the point where they have lots of excess, expendable cash (see: Microsoft). Until that point, most profits are reinvested to hire more employees/improve the business.

[DwightShrute]

he is an embarrassment. Why anyone would even consider voting for him again is beyond me. Huge fail. Maybe the biggest ever.

[dherd]

the president is a great man and a great president. nice to have someone in the office that actually gives a damn about making the right decision. as opposed to a crowd that cares only for their rich buddies. only problem with the president is that he is to conservative he needls
to hit the fascist republicans right in the mouth.

[wtf]

the president is a great man and a great president. nice to have someone in the office that actually gives a damn about making the right decision. as opposed to a crowd that cares only for their rich buddies. only problem with the president is that he is to conservative he needls
to hit the fascist republicans right in the mouth.

interesting your chose to end your statement with violence

gee, i wonder why

[The Madcap]

nice to have someone in the office that actually gives a damn about making the right decision. as opposed to a crowd that cares only for their rich buddies.

Obviously you've never heard of General Electric, General Motors, Parabas, Serious Materials, US Renewable Energy Group, Goldman Sachs......

And let's not forget all his union pals.

You are one dumbass flunkie if you can't figure out Obama has used rubes like you and the White House to make his friends rich.

[TexansFan]

Obama is already getting close to Carter for the worst POTUS ever. The guy, plain and simple, isn't a leader. He isn't qualified to manage a Walmart much less a country. Thanks to Obama, the Republicans control the House, can get control of the Senate next year, and maybe the presidency.

The guy would be great at selling Girl Scout cookies though.

[nobull]

Why don't you bet your life savings against Obama and book a reservation to your nearest homeless shelter while you're at it.

[Congruency]

the president is a great man and a great president. nice to have someone in the office that actually gives a damn about making the right decision. as opposed to a crowd that cares only for their rich buddies. only problem with the president is that he is to conservative he needls to hit the fascist republicans right in the mouth.

I think Obama will win the next general election, but he's not a great president and he has done nothing but care for his rich buddies.

[King Mayan]

Obama is already getting close to Carter for the worst POTUS ever. The guy, plain and simple, isn't a leader. He isn't qualified to manage a Walmart much less a country. Thanks to Obama, the Republicans control the House, can get control of the Senate next year, and maybe the presidency.

The guy would be great at selling Girl Scout cookies though.

sbr= disgruntled white men...

[Andy117]

Regardless of my feelings for the epic fail that is his presidency, I don't see how he can win, literally. He ran on "at least I'm not Bush", made pretty speeches and got tons of the white vote so they could A. prove they aren't racist (even though America wore the label 3 days after the election) and B. could be a part of history. He cannot win without the vote of white independents. And let's not even start any stupid ass talk about racism. 90% of black voters voted against mccain.

Clinton moved to the middle and had a Republican Congress to save his ass. barry still has dems in control of Senate. So, when you have the Senate for 6 years and the presidency for nearly 4, who do you run against? The man cannot win unless he has an evil straw man to run against.

How can you run on hope and change twice?

You need to remove your emotions from this equation and just look at facts. The economy is going nowhere for at least another year or two. His approval ratings will get lower when gas hits $4+ gallon soon and food prices go up. So who do you run against when you were the one fukkin things up for 4 years?

I haven't seen a Republican candidate that can beat him at this point.

[Andy117]

I just thought the number now failed to accurately reflect the current poll ratings.

If you figure the no vig line is 155, that is over a 60% chance he wins. That doesn't jib with an approval rating under 50.

Our country reelects incumbents at a stunningly high rate.

[Hotdiggity11]

I haven't seen a Republican candidate that can beat him at this point.

Well, this thread is a prime example. The Republicans can't really get behind a candidate at all, it's all about how much they hate Obama. As I recall, they had a similar strategy in 2008 where they concentrated more on hating Obama than promoting their own candidate and it didn't work out.

[pavyracer]

Even when Bush beat Gore (who was horrible compared to Obama) he only did by 50 votes his brother rigged for him. Obama is in no danger to lose at this point based on his superb record in resolving every major problem Bush created for him.

[DwightShrute]

Obama is in no danger to lose at this point based on his superb record in resolving every major problem Bush created for him.

Like?

[King Mayan]

But, but, but, stop spending, but bomb libya..... but,but,but, stop spending, but fix the economy....

[BigdaddyQH]

Obama has been a terrible President, but he still has time to reverse course and win the election in 2012. He has two advantages. He is the sitting President, and the Republicans have yet to find a very strong viable candidate. Obama's major disadvantage is the his Cabinet Members and Advisors are as stupid as he is.

[rsnnh12]

But, but, but, stop spending, but bomb libya..... but,but,but, stop spending, but fix the economy....

Still haven't explained how higher taxes create jobs...

[katstale]

Chris Christie can beat him, but has not been persuaded to run. Ilovethefatman is dedicated to trying to get him to run. I think if JJ would get behind him...

[King Mayan]

Still haven't explained how higher taxes create jobs...

You have???? Lower taxes= bigger pockets...

[wiffle]

lol at tying up money for almost 2 years in a sportsbook on a bet with a small (none imo) edge

[Hotdiggity11]

lol at tying up money for almost 2 years in a sportsbook on a bet with a small (none imo) edge

The OP has a history of stupidity, what do you expect?

[statnerds]

I see, once again, the OP didn't do his research.

http://realclearpolitics.com/epolls/...andidates.html

And again you fail at reading comprehension....

Only numbers on that screen that matter will be one produced by Rasmussen. Which are absent from the generic poll at the top. Rasmussen also has huckabee tied with and romney ahead of barry.

now go and check rasmussen's accuracy on the last two presidential elections and use that big brain Brad to explain to me why a +145 is fair value.

[statnerds]

lol at tying up money for almost 2 years in a sportsbook on a bet with a small (none imo) edge

You realize the election is 18 months away and it still takes 24 months to equal a year.

perhaps you should work harder to get yourself in a position where you can recognize a bad line and have the means to bet it without worrying about the time frame.

money is money and a win is a win.

[statnerds]

people somehow think the president has a lot to do with this. Use your head, hes just a man, a figurehead, he doesnt control the economy or the goddamn tides.

You must have missed the 8 years bush was in office, and still being blamed...

One more thing fukkheads, stop with your political shit. This is not a political thread. This is a gambling thread. If you homos want to have a meaningless pissing contest that settles nothing, go do it elsewhere please.

This is a thread that identified a bad line, +145, that is mis-priced by the books giving it a 39% chance of hitting.

No more emotional outbursts please. Go circle jerk in the saloon or PZ.

[DwightShrute]

[frostno98]

Unless world ends in 2012 be prepare for another 4 years of Obama brackets

[rsnnh12]

You have???? Lower taxes= bigger pockets...

Huh? I explained lower taxes creating jobs in 2 posts, you didn't respond to the 2nd...

And again, how will higher taxes create jobs?

[King Mayan]

Huh? I explained lower taxes creating jobs in 2 posts, you didn't respond to the 2nd...

And again, how will higher taxes create jobs?

Higher taxes= no jobs, lower debt....lower taxes= no jobs, higher debt........

[empty cookie jar]

horrible president

indecisve, shady, just a dang ole poor leader

america is retarded

[wiffle]

You realize the election is 18 months away and it still takes 24 months to equal a year.

perhaps you should work harder to get yourself in a position where you can recognize a bad line and have the means to bet it without worrying about the time frame.

money is money and a win is a win.

lol, if you make any money sports betting, you are much better off betting games with small edges than betting a long term (598 days) future with a decent edge (although obama is a lock)

good luck beating inflation

[BettingWizard]

Obama is following the EXACT same course of Reagan, in terms of conditions of the country, the criticism both got in their first term...........Republicans will roll out a "Dukakis" figure, a safe guy with no real strength......will lead the first poll against Obama........then get blown out in the election. The only difference between the Obama and Reagan 2nd term map, will be the southern states that refuse to vote Obama.


Obama having a 39% chance to lose is the most laughable thing I've ever heard

[Hotdiggity11]

And again you fail at reading comprehension....

Only numbers on that screen that matter will be one produced by Rasmussen. Which are absent from the generic poll at the top. Rasmussen also has huckabee tied with and romney ahead of barry.

now go and check rasmussen's accuracy on the last two presidential elections and use that big brain Brad to explain to me why a +145 is fair value.

Wait, the only poll that matters is the one that actually has the Republican competitive? Wow, how convenient, no matter you constantly lose money at sports.


Oh, and for the record, Rasmussen was found to be one of the least effective polling institutions for the 2010 elections going by the results compared to the date they produced. This is going strictly by the MATH, not your silly opinion.


http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes...rmed-strongly/

[Hotdiggity11]

lol, if you make any money sports betting, you are much better off betting games with small edges than betting a long term (598 days) future with a decent edge (although obama is a lock)

good luck beating inflation

It's amazing to behold but Stats is actually the dumbest person who posts in the Politics section. This thread is dumber than Emily Haine's North Korea thread and that's saying something.

[DwightShrute]

ok at least if Obama accomplished ONE lousy thing while in office ... and a pretty major one ... the one that caused this global economic crisis in the first place ... the one that he promised he would fix... the implementation of stricter rules on Wall street and the Banking Industry ...that lead to the housing bubble.... the greed that nearly collapsed the market and the billions paid to ceo's .... taxpayer money eventually ...

Not blaming Obama for this of course but he has virtually done nothing to fix the problem except their work that they promise they won't do it again. Not one person from Lehman brothers, AIG and all those others corrupt greedy people that literally stole billions, were ever charged or even prosecuted. Not one. Not even anyone from the rating agencies who had them rated AA right up to the day they went under were charged.

Instead, Obama re-hired Bernacki for another term and basically has done squat to prevent anything like this happening again. He bowed down to Wall St and took it up the ass. No change here. Same old crooks running the country. Ya if he did that one thing, then even I would praise that accomplishment.

Yes deregulation started under Reagan and was expanded under Clinton and Bush with crooks like Geenspan and other spending billions to change these banking laws. Promising to change that and failing is too much to over look.

OBAMA equals failure.

[BigdaddyQH]

You realize the election is 18 months away and it still takes 24 months to equal a year.

perhaps you should work harder to get yourself in a position where you can recognize a bad line and have the means to bet it without worrying about the time frame.

money is money and a win is a win.

First of all, you absolute and complete total moron, 12 months equals one year, not 24. What kind of dumb a** can claim to know anything about gambling if he does not even know how many months a year consists of. Next, this is a thread located in the "Political" Sub forum. That means it discusses politics, not Hoops. Boy, they just do not make them any dumber than you, do they.