1. 03-08-11 09:43 AM #1
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    Who is in favor of a STIFF and/or SlowPayer TAG/BADGE

    Whoever is in favor of a STIFF and/or SlowPayer BADGE nominate this post to agree.

    I think that it will be important to acknowledge that a poster has stiffed 1 or multiple people. Once they pay back they can be changed to slowpayer and in 6 months it will be removed.

    This is a good idea because people are always living it up in the forums after they stiff a fellow member. I think some of their "friends" and fellow posters might want to know just how shady and untrustworthy these people are. Maybe having the BADGE- STIFF below their postings will teach them a lesson and will make less people consider being a STIFF.
    As an added bonus it will let lenders know when to stay far away and not lose pts to someone who clearly isnt an honest forum member who contributes and has respect.

    It is important that SBR doesn't look the other way when someone is blatantly stiffing and deceiving other forum members.. that is something they definitely should be responsible for, as this is their forum and we are the members in it who they should protect.

    What yall think?

    I say I

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  2. 03-08-11 09:44 AM #2
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    Tag? How about a badge?

    I'm in favor.
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  3. 03-08-11 09:48 AM #3
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    I changed it to BADGE.. ty i was looking for that word.

    nominate post if u agree.. Please SBR DO NOT REWARD ME 10 PTS. I just want to show u how many will be in favor of this.

    ty

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  4. 03-08-11 09:51 AM #4
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    I am in favor of a badge for stiffs
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  5. 03-08-11 09:51 AM #5
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    I agree people need to face consequences for their actions, even on the internet. The possibility of having that tag would atleast deter SOME of them from stiffing. Also it would be a useful tool to alert other posters not to deal with that poster when it comes to point loans, wagers, etc.......But I doubt it's ever going to happen.


    But I agree..........yes for badges
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  6. 03-08-11 09:54 AM #6
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    Sounds reasonable
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  7. 03-08-11 09:55 AM #7
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    I am for the badge, however I think the problem you're gonna run into is it's not SBR's job to police point loans between posters. Maybe SBR needs to open a betpoints loan bank of their own, charging interest of course.
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  8. 03-08-11 09:59 AM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by obamaismyuncle View Post
    I am for the badge, however I think the problem you're gonna run into is it's not SBR's job to police point loans between posters. Maybe SBR needs to open a betpoints loan bank of their own, charging interest of course.

    we dont need them to police it. All they need to do is honor what the forum posters need and that is fair warning that this person is running a scam/stiffing people and I know for a fact a lot of posters wouldnt want to deal or even converse with a person because of this.

    it is not sbr's job to police lending.. but it also is important they dont Look the other way when someone is blatantly stiffing and deceiving other forum members.. that is something they definitely should be responsible for, as this is their forum and we are the members in it who they should protect.

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  9. 03-08-11 10:03 AM #9
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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    we dont need them to police it. All they need to do is honor what the forum posters need and that is fair warning that this person is running a scam/stiffing people and I know for a fact a lot of posters wouldnt want to deal or even conversate with a person because of this.

    it is not sbr's job to police lending.. but it also is important they dont Look the other way when someone is blatantly stiffing and deceiving other forum members.. that is something they definitely should be responsible for.

    -stash

    I agree with you. But they've said in the past they won't have nothing to do with point loans between posters. They've took the don't lend don't get stiffed approach. Lets face it, points are worth pennies and for a site that generates a ton of money it isn't worth it.
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  10. 03-08-11 10:04 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by obamaismyuncle View Post
    I am for the badge, however I think the problem you're gonna run into is it's not SBR's job to police point loans between posters. Maybe SBR needs to open a betpoints loan bank of their own, charging interest of course.
    SBR doesn't need to police it or enforce it. All we ask is after a stiff is verified is to attach a stiff badge to them. They don't have to force the stiff to pay back by withhelding his points like the IRS withhelds wages. Just to let others know he is a stiff.
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  11. 03-08-11 10:05 AM #11
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    Fantastic idea.
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  12. 03-08-11 10:06 AM #12
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    Novel idea.........
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  13. 03-08-11 10:07 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    SBR doesn't need to police it or enforce it. All we ask is after a stiff is verified is to attach a stiff badge to them. They don't have to force the stiff to pay back by withhelding his points like the IRS withhelds wages. Just to let others know he is a stiff.

    THIS ^ - this will help PROTECT our members @ SBR forum.
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  14. 03-08-11 10:14 AM #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    SBR doesn't need to police it or enforce it. All we ask is after a stiff is verified is to attach a stiff badge to them. They don't have to force the stiff to pay back by withhelding his points like the IRS withhelds wages. Just to let others know he is a stiff.

    I am for this 100%. SBR has just said numerous times in the past they want nothing to do with point loans/stiffs. Believe they've even said in the past posters who call out point stiffs may face infractions of their own.
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  15. 03-08-11 10:14 AM #15
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    love the idea, turn the stiffs into internet social pariahs. simple as filling out a request and verifying the status of the loan (after guidelines are hammered out). probably won't happen but i hope its looked into
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  16. 03-08-11 10:15 AM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    SBR doesn't need to police it or enforce it. All we ask is after a stiff is verified is to attach a stiff badge to them. They don't have to force the stiff to pay back by withhelding his points like the IRS withhelds wages. Just to let others know he is a stiff.
    I agree with the idea of badges. But I think what Obama is saying is that SBR will have to involve themselves to a point, in order to verify the info before a badge is placed on a poster. It would be unfair to all of us if the agreed to blindly place a badge like that without verifying the debt for themselves first. So though they wont be "policing" points, they will have to be involved to an extent in order to investigate alleged loan debts. This costs labor man hours to do so. so this bage idea, if it was implemented, would cost SBR extra $$$, hence costing us points. But I'd be fine with that if it cleans this place up
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  17. 03-08-11 10:17 AM #17
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    Genius!
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  18. 03-08-11 10:19 AM #18
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    they dont want to police pts meaning they dont want to pay out pts from peoples daily posts to the stiffed lender... but if they need someone to verify the stiffs for JUST A BADGE.. no monitary or betpoints transactions whatsoever.

    I will volunteer. Pay me ZERO and I will GLADLY do this for FREE!

    I think it is only FAIR to protect the members of this forum.. doing anything different would be like looking the other way when u see a human dying or u see a man beat his wife/kids and u turn away from it.

    In essence if they don't do anything about this.. They are Allowing it to happen...

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  19. 03-08-11 10:23 AM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by secretstash View Post
    they dont want to police pts meaning they dont want to pay out pts from peoples daily posts to the stiffed lender... but if they need someone to verify the stiffs for JUST A BADGE.. no monitary or betpoints transactions whatsoever. I will volunteer. Pay me ZERO and I will GLADLY do this for FREE!

    I think it is only FAIR to protect the members of this forum.. doing anything different would be like looking the other way when u see a human dying or u see a man beat his wife/kids and u turn away from it.

    In essence if they don't do anything about this.. They are Allowing it to happen...

    -stash
    Once again they've stated numerous times "don't lend don't get stiffed"....

    It would be in SBR's best interest to open a betpoints loan bank of their own...deducting daily points, poker winnings, contest prizes right off the top..with interest.
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  20. 03-08-11 10:25 AM #20
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    Seems like a good idea to me to be honest, good luck getting SBR to actually do it though.
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  21. 03-08-11 10:34 AM #21
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    I agree its a good idea however, a good portion of the "stiffs" come from alot of people that could care less what is said to them. All those 30-50 pt loans that are taken to take one pop at casino/sportsbook and when they lose they just go back to there 6-12 pts/day dumped in casino. Its a cycle that will always occur. Unless SBR begins policing there is really nothing that can be done. And why would they police if they are not in the lending industry.
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  22. 03-08-11 10:38 AM #22
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsgood5 View Post
    Seems like a good idea to me to be honest, good luck getting SBR to actually do it though.
    Not starting anything but aren't you one of the biggest stiffs ever. Didnt you get people for several thousand points.
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  23. 03-08-11 10:41 AM #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by downsouth View Post
    Not starting anything but aren't you one of the biggest stiffs ever. Didnt you get people for several thousand points.
    Yeah that's pretty accurate.

    And I'm sure I'd have no problem stiffing again if I really wanted to, but if their was a badge/tag, that'd be pretty tough.
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  24. 03-08-11 10:43 AM #24
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    whatsgood5..what's the reasoning of not paying back your loans when you won so many points playing Poker? I think you lost a lot of people's respect including me when you did that. You could have at least pay back the principal you borrowed and don't pay back the interest if you think they were charging you too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsgood5 View Post
    Seems like a good idea to me to be honest, good luck getting SBR to actually do it though.
    thats awesome
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  26. 03-08-11 11:08 AM #26
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    LMAO whatsgood5 nominated this post?? Fukkin classic!
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  27. 03-08-11 11:35 AM #27
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    Let's name and shame the stiffs
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  28. 03-08-11 11:38 AM #28
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    Not going to do much

    I know 40 active posters that are on stiff page at credit wagering and brag about it

    They do not care
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  29. 03-08-11 11:41 AM #29
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    Good idea but it won't happen.
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    anyone read the scarlet letter?
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  31. 03-08-11 12:30 PM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    whatsgood5..what's the reasoning of not paying back your loans when you won so many points playing Poker? I think you lost a lot of people's respect including me when you did that. You could have at least pay back the principal you borrowed and don't pay back the interest if you think they were charging you too much.
    I'm not sure why he didn't pay back his loans. His first reason for stiffing was they cut off the blog points. He only owes me 119 points after a huge loan of 1000 points, but not sure why he didn't want to pay that back when he hit it big with points again.


    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Not going to do much

    I know 40 active posters that are on stiff page at credit wagering and brag about it

    They do not care
    The point is so honest posters don't lose points to people who stiff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Not going to do much

    I know 40 active posters that are on stiff page at credit wagering and brag about it

    They do not care

    the reason why no one cared is because cw stiffed them they say too and they took a free shot... this will be in the posters face and everyone they post around EVERY time and people will constantly call them out on their stiff job.. I have a feeling it will only deter a small percentage of stiffs BUT like MexStallion said.. it is also crucial to help fair lenders and people know who is trustworthy on this site.

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  33. 03-08-11 02:39 PM #33
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    conversely, a "good credit badge" would also be a great idea.
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    I think this is a great idea.
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