Supreme Court ingame decision thread

[MartinBlank]

Romney can make all the stump speeches he wants about repealing this thing the first day he is in office, the fact is, when the debates start, and Romney gets pressed that he created the same system he is now campaigning against, it isn't going to work well for him.

What exactly is the GOP plan for healthcare anyway?

Is it "Keep costs under control, we want quality healthcare"?

Without a specific plan in place, I don't see how they are going to win this one.

[opie1988]

Justice Roberts simply proved what I've known for a long time.

Jerkoff prikk attorneys will fukk you over every chance they get!

[stevenash]

Romney: 'If We Want to Get Rid of Obamacare, We're Going to Have to Replace President Obama'


Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney reacted to the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision by saying that, "if we want to get rid of Obamacare, we're going to have to replace President Obama."

"Let’s make clear that we understand what the Court did and did not do," Romney said today, speaking in Washington, D.C. "What the Court did today was say that Obamacare does not violate the Constitution. What they did not do was say that Obamacare is good law or that it's good policy."

Romney added: "Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It's bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today."

This presidential election is "a choice," Romney said. "You can choose whether you want to have a larger and larger government, more and more intrusive in your life—separating you and your doctor—whether you're comfortable with more deficits, higher debt that we pass onto the coming generations. Whether you're willing to have the government put in place a plan that potentially causes you to lose the insurance that you like or whether instead you want to return to a time when the American people will have their own choice in healthcare. Where consumers will be able to make their choices as to what kind of health insurance they want."
"This is the time of choice for the American people," Romney said.

Romney concluded: "Help us. Help us defeat Obamacare. Help us defeat the liberal agenda that makes government too big, too intrusive, and is killing jobs across this great country."

[MonkeyF0cker]

The "You're either with us or against us" mentality that so many Republicans possess is so odd to me.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Justice Roberts simply proved what I've known for a long time.

Jerkoff prikk attorneys will fukk you over every chance they get!

I was glancing over the student groups offered at Northwestern Law... there is a Democrat group, nothing about conservatives or republicans. I think I will be pretty alone in my class as far as politics go.

[ChalkyDog]

Romney: 'If We Want to Get Rid of Obamacare, We're Going to Have to Replace President Obama'


Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney reacted to the Supreme Court's Obamacare decision by saying that, "if we want to get rid of Obamacare, we're going to have to replace President Obama."

"Let’s make clear that we understand what the Court did and did not do," Romney said today, speaking in Washington, D.C. "What the Court did today was say that Obamacare does not violate the Constitution. What they did not do was say that Obamacare is good law or that it's good policy."

Romney added: "Obamacare was bad policy yesterday. It's bad policy today. Obamacare was bad law yesterday. It’s bad law today."

This presidential election is "a choice," Romney said. "You can choose whether you want to have a larger and larger government, more and more intrusive in your life—separating you and your doctor—whether you're comfortable with more deficits, higher debt that we pass onto the coming generations. Whether you're willing to have the government put in place a plan that potentially causes you to lose the insurance that you like or whether instead you want to return to a time when the American people will have their own choice in healthcare. Where consumers will be able to make their choices as to what kind of health insurance they want."
"This is the time of choice for the American people," Romney said.

Romney concluded: "Help us. Help us defeat Obamacare. Help us defeat the liberal agenda that makes government too big, too intrusive, and is killing jobs across this great country."

[ChalkyDog]

I was glancing over the student groups offered at Northwestern Law... there is a Democrat group, nothing about conservatives or republicans. I think I will be pretty alone in my class as far as politics go.

Nah pal. Conservatives are rampent in all law schools, even the most liberal.

In my early law school days, I was liberalish - was the one of three in my class. Repubs go to law school.

They are found in the more established groups.

[MonkeyF0cker]

I was glancing over the student groups offered at Northwestern Law... there is a Democrat group, nothing about conservatives or republicans. I think I will be pretty alone in my class as far as politics go.

Uhh. Yeah. REALLY hard to find.

http://groups.northwestern.edu/nucr/

[ChalkyDog]

Uhh. Yeah. Hard to find.

http://groups.northwestern.edu/nucr/

Law School has next to nothing to do with the campus at large.

[ChalkyDog]

Pick, Federalist Society = your Republican law school group.

See, just named different.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Law School has next to nothing to do with the campus at large.

What do student groups have to do with school to begin with?

[19th Hole]

The Supreme Court does what it has to do....
Decides whether an issue is constitutional or
not. The court made a decision based on Constitutional law
rather than on political persuasion.

Next case.

[ChalkyDog]

What do student groups have to do with school to begin with?

Never been to post-secondary education?

In undergrad, it is a place to get laid.

In law school, it is a place to get laid and get a job.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Uhh. Yeah. REALLY hard to find.

http://groups.northwestern.edu/nucr/

Evanston is about 8 miles north of Chicago where the law school is. I will never be in Evanston.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Never been to post-secondary education?

In undergrad, it is a place to get laid.

In law school, it is a place to get laid and get a job.

School is a complete waste of time as far as I'm concerned.

That still doesn't explain how joining a group of STUDENTS with similar interests has anything to do with school or getting a job.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

School is a waste of time as far as I'm concerned.

That still doesn't explain how joining a group of STUDENTS with similar interests has anything to do with school or getting a job.

[MonkeyF0cker]

i

Evanston is about 8 miles north of Chicago where the law school is. I will never be in Evanston.

Ahh. Ok. Didn't realize they were separate. I went to Wisconsin-Madison. Everything was on the same campus. Figured they were similar.

[MonkeyF0cker]

What's so funny?

[Hoopster007]

The idiots who love this law are generally the ones who have no idea about it. They spew the simple talking point of "now everyone can get coverage and pay their fair share, blah blah blah" I work in the insurance biz and have a question for those people. Ever since Obamacare was announced premiums for everything have gone up plenty. Now that this ruling came down, they are going to go up again. A majority of the people who dont have insurance either can't afford it, have pre existing conditions, don't want it, or a combination of those. With the high prices of getting insurance, giving people the ability to buy it does little when they can't afford it. People making 20-40k a year are on tight budgets and this doesn't help them. All it does it create another bill to pay or a tax, which will be the lowest cost in the short term. As the penalty goes up year after year, the tax just gets higher and higher.

I have to give it to Obama. He created this enormous tax by placing into a healthcare bill. Then passed it before anyone read it. Now people are slowly reading it and finding out about it. Between this and jobs, Romney has his campaign down now.

Lets just say that everyone buys the insurance. Where will you be able to get in to see a doctor? Glad that this will increase the medicaid pool by 17 million within 10 years. I pay for insurance and will have more people to contend with at the doctors office or the hospital. But this helps overall healthcare? Some people have no clue what they are cheering for. But in Obamas mind, he is putting more people on the government tit and that is the plan. The more people that rely on him the better.

[ChalkyDog]

School is a complete waste of time as far as I'm concerned.

That still doesn't explain how joining a group of STUDENTS with similar interests has anything to do with school or getting a job.

When did you go to school?

Undergrad - get laid.
Lawschool - get laid, get job via networking. It is all networking. Find like minded people, give eachother blowies, find old people that are like minded, get those old people to give you a job, or find some place with other like minded peeps to give you a job.

Networking - only way to get paid.

[ChalkyDog]

The idiots who love this law are generally the ones who have no idea about it. They spew the simple talking point of "now everyone can get coverage and pay their fair share, blah blah blah" I work in the insurance biz and have a question for those people. Ever since Obamacare was announced premiums for everything have gone up plenty. Now that this ruling came down, they are going to go up again. A majority of the people who dont have insurance either can't afford it, have pre existing conditions, don't want it, or a combination of those. With the high prices of getting insurance, giving people the ability to buy it does little when they can't afford it. People making 20-40k a year are on tight budgets and this doesn't help them. All it does it create another bill to pay or a tax, which will be the lowest cost in the short term. As the penalty goes up year after year, the tax just gets higher and higher.

I have to give it to Obama. He created this enormous tax by placing into a healthcare bill. Then passed it before anyone read it. Now people are slowly reading it and finding out about it. Between this and jobs, Romney has his campaign down now.

Lets just say that everyone buys the insurance. Where will you be able to get in to see a doctor? Glad that this will increase the medicaid pool by 17 million within 10 years. I pay for insurance and will have more people to contend with at the doctors office or the hospital. But this helps overall healthcare? Some people have no clue what they are cheering for. But in Obamas mind, he is putting more people on the government tit and that is the plan. The more people that rely on him the better.

Oh NOEZ! Doctas hafta wox nows.

[opie1988]

School is a complete waste of time as far as I'm concerned.

That still doesn't explain how joining a group of STUDENTS with similar interests has anything to do with school or getting a job.

Excellent way to network with your future colleagues.

I was pretty active in a National fraternity all through my time in undergrad, and its been a great networking tool. Can't begin to tell you how many opportunities I've gotten simply from finding out someone happens to be my fraternity brother.

[MonkeyF0cker]

When did you go to school?

Undergrad - get laid.
Lawschool - get laid, get job via networking. It is all networking. Find like minded people, give eachother blowies, find old people that are like minded, get those old people to give you a job, or find some place with other like minded peeps to give you a job.

Networking - only way to get paid.

More than a few of my friends went onto law school. I don't know a single one of them that joined any student groups.

Whatever. They seem to be doing just fine.

There are "old people" in student groups? What am I missing?

I went to Madison from 1998-2002. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

More than a few of my friends went onto law school. I don't know a single one of them that joined any student groups.

Whatever. They seem to be doing just fine.

There are "old people" in student groups? What am I missing?

I went to Madison from 1998-2002. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

If you own your own law firm and you feel strongly about your conservative ideals, you don't think it would increase your chances of hiring someone who put on their resume that they were in a group that was conservative?

[ChalkyDog]

More than a few of my friends went onto law school. I don't know a single one of them that joined any student groups.

Whatever. They seem to be doing just fine.

There are "old people" in student groups? What am I missing?

I went to Madison from 1998-2002. Not sure what that has to do with anything.

Student groups go out into the community, and hang out with the people with the jobs, ie the old peeps.

And yes, in law school - old people are in student groups.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Excellent way to network with your future colleagues.

I was pretty active in a National fraternity all through my time in undergrad, and its been a great networking tool. Can't begin to tell you how many opportunities I've gotten simply from finding out someone happens to be my fraternity brother.

Yeah. I still don't get it - years later. I never had problems meeting people or making friends. Never saw the need for a fraternity or student group for networking. Of course, for what I do, networking is largely unnecessary.

[ChalkyDog]

BTW, Job I got right out of school was due in part to being part of a fraternity, i.e. school group.

Free Mason was the other part... but the school group got me in the door.

Don't underestimate networking.

[MonkeyF0cker]

If you own your own law firm and you feel strongly about your conservative ideals, you don't think it would increase your chances of hiring someone who put on their resume that they were in a group that was conservative?

I think if that plays a large part in what they're basing their hiring on, I wouldn't want to work for that firm. Whether it was conservative or liberal.

[MonkeyF0cker]

BTW, Job I got right out of school was due in part to being part of a fraternity, i.e. school group.

Free Mason was the other part... but the school group got me in the door.

Don't underestimate networking.

You don't think you could have gotten it or a similar position at another firm on merit alone?

[King Mayan]

Groups/Fraternity another reason why blacks need affirmitive action..

[ChalkyDog]

You don't think you could have gotten it or a similar position at another firm on merit alone?

Not a chance in hell, merit in law, as far as employment goes is the biggest lie a law school makes.

A guy with a 2.0 average, but great at networking, will get a job or better job well before a 4.0 student with not contacts.

What you know and who you know... some saying about that. Either way, it is the latter that is most important.

Another saying... A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.... Welcome to America.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Not a chance in hell, merit in law, as far as employment goes is the biggest lie a law school makes.

A guy with a 2.0 average, but great at networking, will get a job or better job well before a 4.0 student with not contacts.

What you know and who you know... some saying about that. Either way, it is the latter that is most important.

Another saying... A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge.... Welcome to America.

So you were a poor student? Okay. I guess I can see it in your case then.

Doesn't pretty much every lawyer know the judge?

[big0mar]

The "You're either with us or against us" mentality that so many Republicans possess is so odd to me.

[PickWinnerAllDay]

Groups/Fraternity another reason why blacks need affirmitive action..

Blacks need affirmative action because they can't compete with whites or asians academically.

Why they can't compete is a different debate.

[ChalkyDog]

So you were a poor student? Okay. I guess I can see it in your case then.

Doesn't pretty much every lawyer know the judge?

Yeah, poor as hell student. Student loans. Only person in my entire family with more than a HS diploma.

They know his name, most don't golf with him though. The latter is Knowing your judge.