1. 02-10-11 09:56 AM #1
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    What has made Billy Walters so successful?

    is he that successful? is it just a myth? in this day and age with so much info available with a few clicks on the internet, where is his edge? Is it computers?

    who else commands as much respect as him in Vegas?
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  2. 02-10-11 10:29 AM #2
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    Whether you think he is talented, a myth, or something in between-----I find this to be hysterically funny.

    If someone posts a "Billy Walters Play" and it loses----there are Walters' supporters who will claim that he released that info just to move the line in the opposite direction of the play he really wanted.

    Say what you want about him---the guy would give PT Barnum a run for his money in the self-promotion biz.

    The guy can't lose as he seemingly has both sides covered.
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  3. 02-10-11 10:34 AM #3
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    He has a great team and is an originator. IMO if you are an originator with all of these online books moving on "air", you can kick some serious ass.
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  4. 02-10-11 10:35 AM #4
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    He is so big right now he can literally call any player at any small school in the country and offer him a used car to shave some points.
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  5. 02-10-11 10:36 AM #5
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    so does he have money? or is he living in a tiny house in deep debt.

    does he move lines?

    I can believe the moving lines myth, if he has THAT much money and runners

    I have not idea. I'm 3,000 miles away from where it all takes place
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  6. 02-10-11 10:37 AM #6
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    He is so big right now he can literally call any player at any small school in the country and offer him a used car to shave some points.
    dumb ignoramous response.
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  7. 02-10-11 10:38 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    so does he have money? or is he living in a tiny house in deep debt.

    does he move lines?

    I can believe the moving lines myth, if he has THAT much money and runners

    I have not idea. I'm 3,000 miles away from where it all takes place
    The way he is moving lines is tricky. Lets say he wants to get -3.5 in a game but the line is +4.5. He keeps placing small bets on the dog at +4.5 and when the book moves the line to -3.5 he unloads on it with a huge bet.
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  8. 02-10-11 10:46 AM #8
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    that is a it different from saying he can call the 11th guy on the bench at the Arkansas Pine Bluff, and offering a bribe to fix a game.
    its not worth it first of all, with all the limits on games like that. He wouldn't risk it.

    its just a dumb statement. I'm looking for responses from people that have more knowledge and common sense than me
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  9. 02-10-11 10:47 AM #9
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    Yeah you are going to get intelligent responses in this forum on how a multi-millionaire gambler who built his empire on secrecy makes his bets.
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  10. 02-10-11 10:53 AM #10
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    I thought I might get somthing somewhat informed or intelligent

    I didn't expect the retarded responses about a guy bribing small time players with used cars.


    I hope that poster didn't expect, imbecile like responses would be ignored
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  11. 02-10-11 10:54 AM #11
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    Nobody here knows anything more than speculation. You are wasting your time searching for truth here. He is very wealthy and successful, that can be proven but the only thing I know for sure is that he was heavy in real estate there in LB and made a killing off of it.
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  12. 02-10-11 10:55 AM #12
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    you crack me up Pavy
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  13. 02-10-11 11:01 AM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    that is a it different from saying he can call the 11th guy on the bench at the Arkansas Pine Bluff, and offering a bribe to fix a game.
    its not worth it first of all, with all the limits on games like that. He wouldn't risk it.

    its just a dumb statement. I'm looking for responses from people that have more knowledge and common sense than me
    INFORMATION is the key to handicapping, over 50% of it. If you have contacts & people on the payroll to gather info you can successfully pick winners ATS at a winning%. If not then you're guessing & thats not handicapping.

    Brock writes each team on his nuts & smears PB on them, whichever his dog licks clean first is what he releases as a Rubberband play. Thats one method but its not handicapping.

    Also, Capping starts weeks even months before games, the info that comes in the 24th hour is just gravy. If you're starting to cap a game today that plays tomorrow or this weekend then you're not handicapping, you're digging & hoping
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  14. 02-10-11 11:01 AM #14
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    i dont think his wealth is in question, nothing says "i made it" more than having your own private jet, which he does

    i mean having runners, they will eventually know who the runners are unless he constantly rotates them

    the question is did he gain his wealth strictly from gambling
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  15. 02-10-11 11:10 AM #15
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    so does he use computer modelers?

    does he bet smaller time stuff like wnba, soccer, college nhl ect?
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  16. 02-10-11 11:15 AM #16
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    80% of his wealth is from Real Estate and Booking

    The booking part is where it started and organized crime

    Its not from gambling

    Case closed
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  17. 02-10-11 11:19 AM #17
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    so he loses on his big gambling plays?

    what about golf, does he make any money there?
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  18. 02-10-11 11:28 AM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chandler View Post
    so he loses on his big gambling plays? what about golf, does he make any money there?
    did you watch the 60 minutes special on him? you're asking questions that were answered in the show.

    He movies lines, even moves them so he can bet the opposite side later at the number he wants.(what pavy said basically but he said it better)
    loses on his big gambling plays? these probably win more than lose.
    He bets while playing golf if thats what you mean.
    He has people who have models and shit that he pays. I think it said how many people he has, but he has a team of people feeding him information.
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  19. 02-10-11 11:32 AM #19
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    Here is a thread that will keep you busy.

    http://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-ta...ay-1-16-a.html
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  20. 02-10-11 11:35 AM #20
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    gold and Paver are on the right track

    real estate ( not every deal is a home run)

    bookmaker ( juice )

    wagering ( both sides + juice )

    small college games ( where they known the outcome )

    he told 60 minutes a game lost 250,00 that day where does he

    place that much action ?
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  21. 02-10-11 11:42 AM #21
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    Im sure hes legit and does not tell anyone anything.
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  22. 02-10-11 11:45 AM #22
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    He is a fraud

    You do not have Private Jets from betting on sports

    Most of his money was not made betting on sporting events
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  23. 02-10-11 11:45 AM #23
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    He wins more than 55% of the time. It's no secret. And he doesn't play blackjack on internet casino.
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  24. 02-10-11 12:00 PM #24
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    Lol you just said does he bet on small things such as soccer and you called paver ignorant ??
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  25. 02-10-11 12:54 PM #25
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    What made him so successful?

    He learned from me
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    Quote Originally Posted by ssk13809 View Post
    What made him so successful? He learned from me
    ya he did the opposite of what you do and BAM..hes rich.
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  27. 02-10-11 01:08 PM #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    He won it playing pocker.

    !!!!
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  28. 02-10-11 02:13 PM #28
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    Hes a mystery. He doesn't even have a wikipedia page.
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  29. 02-10-11 02:18 PM #29
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    He got in at the right time (1980's), with the right group of people. What he does now is build on that early success, and would be extremely difficult to copy. He's a manager of information now. And his bets sound big, but when you own seven (?) golf courses they're probably conservative.
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