you wont admit that CBS/ABC/NBC/NY Times were in the tank for obama in 2008 - it was so bad even Saturday Night Live did skits on itBesides that, if the MSM was so monolithic and in the tank for democrats, why wouldn't there be multiple extremely popular conservative alternatives? Afterall, conservatives make up somewhere right around half of the electorate. Wouldn't there be money to be made in more than one news source catering to them and their desires and beliefs? But supposedly we just have Fox News and a bunch of sites on the internet supposedly or so the conservative media would have you believe. The reality is that that belief is simply not true, and there are tons of mainstream newspapers that have a conservative slant, but that truth doesn't feed into the conspiratorial beliefs of the right.
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Where did I say that they weren't(although I honestly don't believe they were as much as you want to think they were). What I instead said is that the MSM isn't some sort of monolithic entity only made up of those particular news sources, but not made up of mainstream news sources that were obviously not in the tank for Obama, like Fox News and the NY Post.
Besides that, if the MSM was so monolithic and in the tank for democrats, why wouldn't there be multiple extremely popular conservative alternatives? Afterall, conservatives make up somewhere right around half of the electorate. Wouldn't there be money to be made in more than one news source catering to them and their desires and beliefs? But supposedly we just have Fox News and a bunch of sites on the internet supposedly or so the conservative media would have you believe. The reality is that that belief is simply not true, and there are tons of mainstream newspapers that have a conservative slant, but that truth doesn't feed into the conspiratorial beliefs of the right.Last edited by Shaudius; 05-13-12, 01:54 PM.Comment -
But you haven't told me why. Why is that. Afterall, as I said, conservatives make up half of the electorate. Shouldn't the MSM be also catering to them? Why then for decades and decades has this perception that the media has a liberal bias persisted? Shouldn't there have been some sort of backlash whereby conservatives were able to gain their rightful share of the media market, since afterall they represent a somewhat equal portion of the population.
Or is the truth really that there are tons of old media outlets with a conservative slant, but the conservative media never points to them when showing how biased the MSM is. Why would they, it doesn't fit with their liberal bias narrative.
None of this also explains why the media would be liberally biased. Afterall, the people who run the media are large corporations and wealthy investors. Are those people also liberally biased? Why would they be? What incentive do the people who run the MSM have in creating a liberal bias? Isn't that against their interests?Comment -
I dont know why most USA journalists lean Left... All polls say they do and there is a book Our Media Elite or Media Elite, something like that goes into great detailsComment -
Yeah, I wouldn't give Mittwit much punishment, since it's just hair. Considering there were decades in this country when men were drafted and had their hair forcibly cut, again, this isn't a huge deal.this man received a 1-2 year jail sentence for cutting off his wifes hair:
but you think romney should get community service even though his attack was far more vicious??????
romney is lucky the statute of limitations has run out.... otherwise hed be facing life imprisonment for his hate crime against a gay.
if you were given a chioice:
a) get health insurance
or
b) get jumped by gang of thugs and get physically assaulted and have your hair forcibly cut
you would choose "b"?
driving on private property is irrelevent. there are many illegal things you can get away with there, such as riding dirt bikes, atvs, utvs which arent allowed on public roads. heck you can even allow your 7 year old to drive your car!!!!
but if you have an emergency and have to goto the hospital, the market, restaurant, gas station or wherever, you are subject to a large fine for not carrying insurance. you will also be fined for not having registration.
if you drive without insurance you are of course taking a risk if you hit someone since it'll be coming out of your own pocket. same thing with health insurance, if you get seriously injured or get cancer, you have to pay out of pocket. so whats the difference?
but if you have health insurance why would you care if its mandatory or not? if you are broke and cant afford it, you can opt out under the financial hardship exemption. not so with auto insurance.... even if you drive. $500 jalopy you still are required to get insurance if you plan on going anywhere.
plus some cities require you to carry auto insurance even if you never leave your private property:
And you keep ignoring the main part of my argument: paying for someone's property that you have damaged, like car insurance, vs paying for your own property. You are okay with the government telling me that I must be able to pay for my property whether I want to or not, but again you're enraged about 1 forced haircut.Comment -
yeah but yeah yeah but yeah but ... SOMEONE SAYS ROMNEY WAS A HIGH SCHOOL BULLY BACK IN 1965. Not that the "victim" is alive and can tell us about it, of course.
And, of course, Romney just enjoyed picking on that one guy - because everyone knows a young bully would never bully more than one victim. Bullying is a personal, dedicated process.Comment -
Next time i see romney, im going to tackle that silver spoon fukk and cut his hair... Perfect hair motherfukker..Comment -
Mayan , you want to trim his pubes tooComment -
Well, if we're waiting for the kid Romney bullied 47 years ago to come forward, let's also anxiously await one of the many drug dealers Obama used to tell us all about his past? =P
I suppose alternatively we could focus on the current issues.Comment -
The point being how ridiculous this smearing is and how it detracts from what really matters.
Going to venture to guess Romney's "bullying accomplices" aren't worth quarter of a billion dollars? Can't possibly fathom what their agendas would be, can you?Comment -
So you'd rather believe in a conspiracy involving not only numerous people that Romney went to school with, but also a reporter all being bribed or making shit up?
This bribery you speak of, are you referring to the potential bribery of Rev. Wright or to something else?
Why is it that you think that one scenario that the event actually occurred is less likely than there is a conspiracy involving at least 7 people.
Also if that was the case, why would Romney crouch his response as, "I don't remember the incident" instead of, "THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN ASSHOLES QUIT MAKING SHIT UP ABOUT ME!"Comment -
Since they all went to one of the best private schools in Michigan, and one of them is a successful attorney who would be risking everything if he was being bribed I'm going to go with again, why are we picking the scenario that is a conspiracy theory instead of the one where they are simply telling the truth?
You people seem quick to accept the story of Rev. Wright over Obama, but seem completely unwilling to accept these people'e story over Romney(who isn't even straight denying), instead its whichever looks like an pro-Obama conspiracy.Comment -
If he responded shouting like that maybe, but I was more saying that for emphasis. He didn't straight up deny it, he crouched his answer. If he was so sure it didn't happen, or he knows that it didn't happen, why would he crouch like that? But of course you should know that's what I meant, you're just being pedantic to be pedantic.Comment -
The fact that Obama snubbed him and hasn't spoken to him since he was elected President? The fact that he's bat shit crazy? The fact that he didn't produce this supposed e-mail exchange.
Or we could go with the fact that his interviewer is a staunch anti-Obama figure who wrote an anti-Obama novel that suggests it might be true.
We'll see what the truth is, we'll see what Rev. Wright has to say. We saw how Romney responded to the high school story.Comment -
Believe me Shaudius, even if Wright hates Obama, he still hates whitey more.Comment -
Occum's Razor. Why would I pick the less plausible story over the more plausible one absent evidence of the less plausible story.
Hell, with logic like you suggest I could say this.
"You have to consider that the Romney party has attempted to bribe people before how do we not know that they bribed 10s of thousands of people to vote for him in primaries." That suggestion only varies in degree. There's a little thing called proof. We take people at their word unless we have reason to believe them to be lying, your reason is that Obama's people may have bribed them, its a claim without any warrant or supporting facts, its pure conjecture just like my Romney electoral bribery example.Comment -
Shaudius, you believe people who knew Romney 45 years ago but doubt someone that was close friends with Obama merely a few years ago.
Seems strange...Comment -
The people who knew Romney 45 years ago are supposedly not bat shit crazy, Obama's close friend a few years ago it turns out is bat shit crazy and the person repeating his supposed bat shit craziness, is bat shit crazy himself. So yes, I consider the source in my assessment.Comment -
The only one getting buried is him pretty obviously. Stick to your mongoose politics brother.
The reality is, when the Reverend Wright shit came up, the Obama camp wanted Wright to shut up and go away. That is obvious. You guys think it is insane they would offer him money to shut up and go away? We know Obama has no morals, he basically abandoned a close friend just because it was bad for his campaign. He didn't abandon Wright for being crazy, he abandoned Wright when the media discovered Wright was crazy.Comment -
You're basing that on what. Your belief that Obama knew of specific sermons of Wrights that he claims he did not attend? Or is your contention that every sermon Wright gave was like his 9/11 sermon?
How about the Sermon Jerry Farwell gave regarding 9/11. Should Romney have spoken at the university someone who gave a similar speech to Rev. Wright founded? Like he did just last week. Shouldn't Romney be distancing himself from an institution like that?Comment -
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This guy shouldnt even be our president, he got a scholarship too that was only eligible for foreign students. Our electoral vetting process has become a laughing stock due to this clown. Just by the things obama says and does you can tell he isnt U.S. born. On another note romeny is taking the high ground today denouncing one of his super pacs that is attacking reverand wright, i dont agree since obama is scum and is more than willing to hit below the belt and mitt needs to fight fire with fire because you know obama is gonna cheat and use every low class tactic to win the election. Someone needs to tell mitt that nice guys finish last.Comment
