[VegasInsider]

Very surprised by this one..

[30K Millionaire]

0-0 finish. what a joke

[doublej95]

a couple of other totals that I'm looking at right now are

Spain
Getafe under
Racing under

England Champ
Crystal under
Leeds over
Hull under

only leaning on the Racing under 2.5 and the Stuttgart over 2.5. Stuttgart has moved to 3 at some books.

[JOHON8]

Pitch conditions in Sittard are terrible and this will hurt Zwolle's offense, who rely a lot on their fast pace, much more then it'll hurt Fortuna. Zwolle's defense will probably still be to tight for them though. I'm expecting a lowscoring game here and might go small on the under.

Their defense was given a boost with the signing of Ricksen. It's still not much, but their lack of speed will be compensated by the poor pitchconditions. Don't think Fortuna will cause any kind of upset tonight though, just expecting a 0-1/0-2 kind of game.

Do not touch the Netherlands without asking this man.

He's got info beyond what the statistics and bookmakers want you to know.

[biff]

Do not touch the Netherlands without asking this man.

He's got info beyond what the statistics and bookmakers want you to know.

is that a threat? ill touch them... i'll touch them all day and night. in fact, i wont even sleep cause ill be too busy touching them.

what you gonna do about it?

p.s. Sanka does know his soccer though

[JOHON8]

is that a threat? ill touch them... i'll touch them all day and night. in fact, i wont even sleep cause ill be too busy touching them.

what you gonna do about it?

p.s. Sanka does know his soccer though

Yeah it's a threat, I'm threatening you to take advantage of the people on this forum who can help you go beyond statistics. So remember if you ever touch Netherlands again without opening up a thread discussing with Sanka who could have told you before this game that the pitch was crap, I will be waiting for your ass with a chainsaw.

[latinrus]

Do not touch the Netherlands without asking this man.

He's got info beyond what the statistics and bookmakers want you to know.

totally agree! I ask him about Netherlands and Decado about Germany! They have some useful info usually!

[biff]

Yeah it's a threat, I'm threatening you to take advantage of the people on this forum who can help you go beyond statistics. So remember if you ever touch Netherlands again without opening up a thread discussing with Sanka who could have told you before this game that the pitch was crap, I will be waiting for your ass with a chainsaw.

I know this, but thanks. i would hope to think latinrus and Sanka are my pals, still. However, the OP has been hot as hell with Holland plays so some times just got to go with it IMO.