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    Strategy Tests

    Hello
    Strategies will be tested here.
    I looked at some forums. Any of my invention, but there will be a bookie buster out of here as well.
    Unfortunately, my english is not very good, but I will list everything clearly.

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    Yep, the Holy Grial of betting must be hiding somewhere ... well find it.

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    This strategy cant fail. Bet $110 on your best bet if it loses then bet $220 on a late game if it loses bet $44o on early morning soccer game,eventually you will win.I always tail Spartan Greens picks during the days.I hate soccer but I hate it even more when there are no games on.

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    System #5 (bookie buster)
    "This is a betting system that constantly have shown a steady profit for me.
    The goal of the system is to win just one parlay in an ten bet series. This is only a 10% winning rate. So, if you can pick a winner within 10 picks (or more if you have a bigger bankroll or you use underdogs), you make a profit.
    First of all, stay away from parlay of more than 2 games. The more games you have in your parlay, the lower will be the payout proportionally to your bet. This is normal and this is how the sportsbooks are making their money.

    So, keep it simple and safe: ALWAYS USE A 2 TEAM PARLAY.
    Who are you going to bet on ? Well, 2 strong underdogs whose payout is big or 2 money line favorite with reasonable odds.
    Bankroll:
    I can’t tell you exactly what bankroll you need because the odds are changing everyday. But I think that a bankroll of 100 units would be reasonable
    The bet will be calculated with the odds offer by the bookmakers.
    The formula is: B = (TL+P) / ((GAME 1 X GAME 2) - 1)
    B = Your bet
    TL= Total lost
    P= Profit you want to make
    GAME 1= Odds for game 1 (International odds)
    GAME 2= Odds for game 2 (International odds)

    Step 1
    Decide the amount you want to win.
    Let’s say you want to make $25 on day 1 and the odds for the 2 games are –120 (1.83) and +110 (2.10)
    B= (0 + 25) / ((1.83 X 2.10) – 1) = $8.79
    Your first bet is $8.79 for the parlay.
    If you win, you make $25 profit. $8.79 X 1.83 X 2.1 - $8.79 = $25
    You go to step 1
    If you lose, you go to step 2

    Step 2
    Let’s say the odds for the 2 games are –140 (1.71) and +105 (2.05)
    B = ($8.79 + $25 ) / ((1.71 X 2.05) – 1) = $13.46
    Your next bet is $13.46
    If you win, you make $25 profit. $13.46 x 1.71 X 2.05 – ($13.46 + $8.79) = $25
    You go to step 1
    If you lose, you go to step 3

    Step 3
    Let’s say the odds for day 3 are +120 (2.20) and –105 (1.95)
    B = ($8.79 + $13.46 + $25 ) / ((2.20 X 1.95 ) – 1) = $14.36
    Your next bet is $14.36
    If you win, you make $25 profit. $14.36 X 2.20 X 1.95 – ($14.36+$13.46+$8.79) = $25
    You go to step 1
    If you lose, you go to step 4

    Step 4
    Continue the progression using the betting formula until you hit a parlay. When you’ll hit a parlay, you’ll make a profit.

    Remember the rules to follow:
    1- Using the betting formula, make a 2 team parlay.
    2- If you lose your first parlay, make another 2 team parlay using the betting formula. Continue to make 2 team parlay until you win one 2 team parlay.
    3- If you win the first parlay, start another series at step 1
    4- When you hit a parlay anywhere in the series, you’ll make a profit.
    5- If you lose, continue the series up to 10 bets and even more if you can afford.

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    Here’s an example
    For the purpose of this example, we will assume that we’re betting a 2 team parlay against the spread in basketball or football. The odds will always be 3.86 (2 X 1.93 (-107)).
    Day Wager W/L NET PROFIT
    1 8.75 L -8.75
    2 11.80 L -20.55
    3 15.93 L -36.48
    4 21.50 L -57.98
    5 29.01 L -86.99

    6 39.15 L -126.14
    7 52.85 L -178.99
    8 71.33 L -250.32
    9 96.27 L -346.59
    10 129.93 W +25
    You finish your 10 days of betting with only one win out of 10. A winning ratio of only 10% and you make a profit of $25. Remember, it was with odds of 1.93. Now imagine with odds of 2.50 for each team during the baseball season.
    With a bankroll of 100 units, you can resist a losing streak of at least 25 games in a row. Not to bad!

    IMPORTANT
    1) Keep on betting as long as your bankroll allow it to. If you experience a long losing streak without hitting your win to close the series and you have lost near 50% of your bankroll, maybe you should accept the lose and start a new series from the beginning.
    2) In order to have the best success, use your 2 best picks of the day for your parlay.
    3) If you have a big bankroll, you can run more series at the same time.

    Conclusion
    This powerful betting system allow you to make a good profit even if you have winning rate as low as 4% during the baseball season if you use underdogs. You have to do your homework but you will make a good profit.
    This system can be used with any sports and with any kind of bets. You just have to calculate the odds with the provided formula.
    Again there are the rules to follow:

    1- Using the betting formula, make a 2 team parlay.
    2- If you lose your first parlay, make another 2 team parlay using the betting formula. Continue to make 2 team parlay until you win one 2 team parlay.
    3- If you win the first parlay, start another series at step 1
    4- When you hit a parlay anywhere in the series, you’ll make a profit.
    If you lose, continue the series up to 10 bets and even more if you can afford.

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    The test unit will begin in 1000.
    Always 3% of the bank will be to achieve the desired profit.

    BB#5.1.1

    813 ORL Magic -1.0 1.95 (NBA)
    840 Canisius -6.5 1.40 (CBB)

    30/((1.95*1.40)-1)= 17.34

    unit: 17.34
    bank: 982.66

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    I like this, at least in principle. I will definitely be following at the very least. Also, some advice... (and I know plenty of guys think parlays are sucker bets, so they can go ahead and ignore all this if they want): some books offer slightly better odds or special promotions for parlays that 1)make this system more effective/cheaper (for two-team parlays) and/or 2)allow for positive expected value with bigger parlays, IF the payouts are proportionally better at each "level", in contrast to the your scenario. For example, if you're typically picking at, say, a 54% win rate (as a pure example, since I don't want to do detailed, exact odds for each win rate... though to get complicated, a very high win rate such as 60% would definitely make bigger parlays more worthwhile...), a 13/5 two-team parlay offers better proportional odds than a three-team 10/1 parlay. BUT, if the book offers bonus parlay odds (for example, I get 13/1 for a 3-teamer at 5Dimes as part of a promo), then this is actually a better bet if you're picking at a solid rate. Of course, this will likely require many more wagers before "completing" a "series", so to speak, but the patience still pays off. Just a thought...

    Either way, I'll be keeping up with this thread to see how you do. Might even join in and post my own plays with a similar system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloro View Post
    The test unit will begin in 1000.
    Always 3% of the bank will be to achieve the desired profit.

    BB#5.1.1

    813 ORL Magic -1.0 1.95 (NBA)
    840 Canisius -6.5 1.40 (CBB)

    30/((1.95*1.40)-1)= 17.34

    unit: 17.34
    bank: 982.66


    Well, today starts the second step ...

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    thanks for the comment thadcr.
    I agree with you. The odds will be higher if only one match will be on the ticket. If more lower, but safer bet then I am taking up a four-five team parlay will be taken.

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    BB#5.1.2

    Caja Laboral Baskonia - Unicaja Málaga (Including Overtime) 1.2 Spain: ACB – Asociación de Clubes de Baloncesto
    Cholet - Gravelines-Dunkerque (Including Overtime) 1.4 France: LNB - Ligue Nationale de Basketball
    Nancy SLUC - Orléans Loiret Basket (Including Overtime) 1.2 France: LNB - Ligue Nationale de Basketball

    (30+17.34)/((1.2*1.4*1.2)-1)= 46.59

    unit: 46.59
    bank: 936.07
    Last edited by cloro; 01-29-11 at 02:52 PM.

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    BB#5.2.1

    510 MIL Bucks -6.5 1.90 (NBA)
    646 Rutgers +10 1.90 (CBB)

    30/((1.9*1.9)-1)= 11.5

    unit: 11.5
    bank: 1018.5

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    BB#5.3.1

    Florent Serra - Edouard Roger-Vasselin 1.72 (tennis- challenger Reunion)
    Andy Murray - Novak Djokovic 1.7 (tennis- Australian open final)

    30/(2.4-1)= 21.4

    unit: 21.4
    bank: 997.1

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    Keep it up man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloro View Post
    Hello Strategies will be tested here. I looked at some forums. Any of my invention, but there will be a bookie buster out of here as well. Unfortunately, my english is not very good, but I will list everything clearly.
    Your English is better than most native speakers here. And as far as foreign language skills, you are in the top 0.1%. hhaaha!
    Welcome.

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    Sounds like a great system.
    Best of luck with it I will be watching and might try this myself

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    Two things though: First, can you explain exactly what you mean below? Your writing style confuses me a bit...at least I think... Maybe I'm reading it wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by cloro View Post
    thanks for the comment thadcr.
    I agree with you. The odds will be higher if only one match will be on the ticket. If more lower, but safer bet then I am taking up a four-five team parlay will be taken.

    Second, just to be a good guy and to make this thread easier to follow, do you think you could post the American odds along with the international odds? I know you need to use the international odds for the formula, but those of us less familiar with them have to think a bit to convert them.

    Oh, and finally, just semantics... but why is this called system 5? Thanks!

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    Thanks for the comments.
    It is essential that all tickets odds of greater than 2 (+100).
    This is the fifth system of the Bookie Buster (changed a bit), so BB#5 is the name.
    The second number refers to the series. The third is a series within the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloro View Post
    BB#5.2.1

    510 MIL Bucks -6.5 1.90 (NBA)
    646 Rutgers +10 1.90 (CBB)

    30/((1.9*1.9)-1)= 11.5

    unit: 11.5
    bank: 1018.5


    bank: 1038.6

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    Quote Originally Posted by cloro View Post
    BB#5.3.1

    Florent Serra - Edouard Roger-Vasselin 1.72 (tennis- challenger Reunion) DRAW canceled bet
    Andy Murray - Novak Djokovic 1.7 (tennis- Australian open final)

    30/(2.4-1)= 21.4

    unit: 21.4

    bank: 997.1
    21.4*1.7(-142.86)= 36.4

    bank: 1075

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    Still not entirely understanding this system. I thought I 100% understood the initial example you provided (...still do think I understand it...), but as you continue posting I get more confused. How come after you won your first win, you still placed your next bet 'to win' another 30, but you say 3% of you current bankroll? I also don't understand the numbers as they relate to the series and number within the series. You went from 5.1.1, to 5.1.2, to 5.2.1, to 5.3.1. Maybe I'd be best to just keep watching and figure things out as they go.

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    Thadchr ,this is a legitimate question.
    Originally, the current 3% of the bank was determined by the desired profit, but later I realized if there are several series at the same time, this would lead to chaos. So I decided to lift the desired level stakes profit rate.

    The levels:

    bank: 0-750 ----> desired profit: 10
    bank: 750-900 ----> desired profit: 20
    bank: 900-1000 ----> desired profit: 25
    bank: 1000-1100 ----> desired profit: 30
    bank: 1100-1200 ----> desired profit: 35
    bank: 1200-1300 ----> desired profit: 40
    bank: 1300-1500 ----> desired profit: 45
    bank: 1500-2000 ----> desired profit: 50
    bank: 2000-2500 ----> desired profit: 75
    bank: 2500-5000 ----> desired profit: 100
    bank: 5000-**** ----> desired profit: 150

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    Quote Originally Posted by thadchr View Post
    I also don't understand the numbers as they relate to the series and number within the series. You went from 5.1.1, to 5.1.2, to 5.2.1, to 5.3.1. Maybe I'd be best to just keep watching and figure things out as they go.
    The numbers formats:

    for example:
    BB#5.2.2 -----> The first number represents the number of the strategy, in this case the 5 ,because I will test this strategy. The second number is the "successful" series (the series which ended with the achievement of desired profit). Finally, the third number shows the number of tickets in the series.

    For example:
    I started BB#5.1.1 (loss)
    BB#5.1.2 (loss)
    BB#5.1.3 (loss)
    BB#5.1.4 (win)
    I'm starting a new series, because I reached the profit.
    BB#5.2.1 (loss)
    BB#5.2.2 (loss)
    BB#5.2.3 (win)
    BB#5.3.1 (win)
    BB#5.4.1 (loss)
    BB#5.4.2 (loss)

    I hope I wrote clearly. If you have other questions, feel free to ask!
    My English is still pretty lame, but I try to answer the more meaningful.

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    BB#5.4.1

    714 LA Clippers -3.5 1.90 (US odds -111.11)
    718 Texas A&M +0.0 2.05 (US odds +105)

    30/(3.9-1)= 10.4
    US odds
    +289.5

    unit: 10.4

    bank: 1064.6
    Last edited by cloro; 02-01-11 at 02:21 AM.

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    BB#5.4.2

    1 Aris @ 1.22
    2 Galatasaray @ 1.18
    3 Unics Kazan @ 1.45
    4 Cras Taranto - Women @ 1.40
    odds: 2.92
    US odds: +192



    Cras Basket Taranto (W) - ZVVZ USK Prague (W) (Including Overtime) 1.40 (US -250) Euroleague Women
    Aris - BG Göttingen (Including Overtime) 1.22 (US -454.55) Euro cup

    Galatasaray Cafe Crown - ČEZ Basket Nymburk (Including Overtime) 1.18 (US -555.56) Euro cup
    Hemofarm - Unics Kazan (Including Overtime) 1.45 (US -222.22) Euro cup


    40.4/(2.92-1)= 21.1

    unit: 21.1
    bank: 1043.5
    Last edited by cloro; 02-01-11 at 05:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frizzelli View Post
    Doesn't get much gayer than this.

    Jesus.......

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    I see bytch boy is still crying because I made a post over a month ago about his 2 page post bashing someone god damn goof you would think you get over it by now but little bytchs are sensitve and can't let simple things go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frizzelli View Post
    I see bytch boy is still crying because I made a post over a month ago about his 2 page post bashing someone god damn goof you would think you get over it by now but little bytchs are sensitve and can't let simple things go.


    I'm just messing with you, bro. I'm not mad about that post. It just cracks me up when you start going off. No hard feelings here.

    Good luck!

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    January Summary:

    All tickets: 5
    winning ticket: 3
    Tips one by one: 11 / 8W-2L-1D
    starting bank: 1000
    bank at the end of the month: 1064.6
    ROI: +6.4%

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    Quote Originally Posted by opie1988 View Post
    I'm just messing with you, bro. I'm not mad about that post. It just cracks me up when you start going off. No hard feelings here. Good luck!

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    BB#5.4.3

    58 TOR M Leafs (Incl. OT) 1.74 (US odds -135.14)
    505 SA Spurs -5.0 1.90 (US odds -111.11)
    US odds: +230

    61.5/(3.3-1)= 26.8

    unit: 26.8
    bank:1016.7
    Last edited by cloro; 02-01-11 at 11:29 PM.

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