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    Figured out why casinos stay in business

    This about sums it up:

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmah2483 View Post
    Its funny you ask that... as I must ask, What does determine win rate? anything? luck/karma (if you will)... nothing actually determines win rate or success rate of numbers but Casinos do use this math to determine house odds. such as a Roullette, when black has hit 3 times, it increases the odds to hit red, much the same as 4 black hits, 5, 6 and so on. or a flip of a coin. the math starts at basically 50/50 and varies from there...

    much the same happens to someone who bets 100 times in two months... the tables turn the odds increase that he will decrease. if you limit your betting in half, the odds nearly cut in half. naturally the games and personal involved change the outcome, but its just a rough estimate.. not everyone leaves a casino broke, but if you never leave you will go broke. call it "Jimmy The Greek Law"

    but to you and Demen...(two guys, whom I asked to let it die) this SIMPLE, EASY, WORTHLESS, NONSENSE math... how did I come up with 78% odds that he follows this pattern. you show me the math on here and Ill stop posting on this board all together. "put your money where your mouth is" as they say. anyone can talk trash, back it up.

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    u can't make this shit up

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    it really is amazing the bullsh1t people come up with

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    very good insight, thanks!!!!!!!

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    Wow...

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    what the,,,

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    really has little to do with why casinos stay in business

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    It's just your standard martingale system strategy. I'll admit I use it occasionally when I'm at the casino playing baccarat. Maybe I just was lucky but it did work when I wen't with it.

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    he will get better
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    he should go write a book. wait, there are tons of books like that in vegas

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    What a load of rubbish

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    It's a classic misunderstanding of long-term versus short-term. Of course, over the long-term, it's going to be a little less than 50% for each color (minus the green(s)), but during the short-term, ANYTHING can happen. The quote is implying that the situation will "correct itself" quickly, when, in actuality, there is no guarantee as to when it will get to the long-term (it usually happens on the next roll after you bust out!).

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    Quote Originally Posted by R6MC View Post
    really has little to do with why casinos stay in business
    Correctamundo.

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    its been said that the roulette coupiers are trained to position the ball in a precise manner that can dictate which areas(1st section, 2nd section or 3rd section) that the ball will land.

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    was at a casino in indiana with my buddy- the roullette wheel hit 29 four times in a row. hundreds and hundreds of hours playing and had never seen anything like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solderjob View Post
    its been said that the roulette coupiers are trained to position the ball in a precise manner that can dictate which areas(1st section, 2nd section or 3rd section) that the ball will land.
    the numbers are spaced apart to prevent that...a third section number between a zero and a first section number etc.


    BUT if youre nice to them and just play a bunch of adjacent numbers on the wheel- they can aim for a cluster of like 7 or 8 numbers that are next to eachother for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    the numbers are spaced apart to prevent that...a third section number between a zero and a first section number etc.


    BUT if youre nice to them and just play a bunch of adjacent numbers on the wheel- they can aim for a cluster of like 7 or 8 numbers that are next to eachother for sure.
    I think your retard pills are running out.

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    Casinos stay in business because they have other ways of making money other than the games they offer.
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    the odds dont change .... but i use martingale system sometimes for short term gain . but thats rediculous to think odds change regardless of last thing that hit, makes no sense.

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    You can never bullshit your way around math.

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    online casinos are a rip off

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    I think your retard pills are running out.

    i think you fock monkeys.

    i wasnt saying its easy- i was telling the poster above me that its easier to aim for a third of the board consecutively adjacent on the wheel than for a first middle or back third bet. (1-12 13-24 25-36)

    theres no wind, its the same wheel over and over, same ball- its called muscle memory- i bet you suck at shooting a basketball.

    they just try to exert the same amount of force each time when dropping the ball in and they cheat and look at the wheel when they drop the ball into it.

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    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by R6MC View Post
    really has little to do with why casinos stay in business
    Yes, it does.

    The quoted post highlights that there are some who do not believe that the casino has a 2.7% edge on every spin of a (European) roulette wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glitch View Post
    i think you fock monkeys.

    i wasnt saying its easy- i was telling the poster above me that its easier to aim for a third of the board consecutively adjacent on the wheel than for a first middle or back third bet. (1-12 13-24 25-36)

    theres no wind, its the same wheel over and over, same ball- its called muscle memory- i bet you suck at shooting a basketball.

    they just try to exert the same amount of force each time when dropping the ball in and they cheat and look at the wheel when they drop the ball into it.
    LOL. You really ARE retarded. Do you think the wheel spins at the same rate each time? Or are you too stupid to realize that not only the wheel (which spins in the opposite direction of the ball) but also the ball have to be going at the same speed each time to aim? And have you actually ever watched a roulette ball? It bounces all over the fukking place once it hits the wheel. It doesn't just fall into a slot. I'll tell you what. Put your money where your mouth is. Since you're so "athletic," how about we wager $10,000 that you cannot hit the same section of 12 numbers 400 out of 500 times on a fair wheel with a regulation, round ball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FourLengthsClear View Post
    Yes, it does.

    The quoted post highlights that there are some who do not believe that the casino has a 2.7% edge on every spin of a (European) roulette wheel.
    Haha, yeah. Some people are oblivious to house edge, probabilities and math in general.
    Last edited by juuso; 01-18-11 at 09:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 63890000 View Post
    online casinos are a rip off
    alert the media!

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    good lord

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    We built this city, We built this on the Martingale system....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MonkeyF0cker View Post
    LOL. You really ARE retarded. Do you think the wheel spins at the same rate each time? Or are you too stupid to realize that not only the wheel (which spins in the opposite direction of the ball) but also the ball have to be going at the same speed each time to aim? And have you actually ever watched a roulette ball? It bounces all over the fukking place once it hits the wheel. It doesn't just fall into a slot. I'll tell you what. Put your money where your mouth is. Since you're so "athletic," how about we wager $10,000 that you cannot hit the same section of 12 numbers 400 out of 500 times on a fair wheel with a regulation, round ball.

    1. you drop the ball not throw it so it would be going in at the same speed
    2. i didnt say i could do it, but a roulette dealer who spins wheels for hours and hours a day
    3. i definitely didnt say they could hit the area 80 percent of the time
    4. youre missing my point that i was just telling someone that the numbers dont go in order

    5. of course ive seen how a ball bounces at the end of the spin. if a machine spun the wheel with the same exact force every time starting from the same wheel position and dropped the ball from the same height on the same location of the wheel in motion- do you think it would hit the "12 numbers" significantly more than 32 percent of the time despite the bounce or not?? the bounce happens because the wheel slows down and in this hypothetical mechanical dealer scenario it would slow down around the same time each time.

    6. chill out, its just a theory and a way of explaining it to the previous poster
    7. id rather bet you something way easier like that you dont have any friends or that youre a loser or youre overweight or that you were molested as a child etc. and much less than 10k

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    this kid is on fire today

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmah2483 View Post
    http://onlineroulettesystems.org/beginner.html best I could find on short notice, and care to search for.

    its an old Roulette Strategy, where you pick either black or red, lets say red. you play $20 on red, if you win, you places another $20. if you lose, you place (double) $40, if you lose again, u place $80... because everytime the ball lands on black the odds of hitting red go up. If it hits black 7 times, the odds/% is up to 99% chance the next is red. its never 100% because technically u could get black forever, but odds are, you hit red before 7 times.

    there you are...

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    trying to move him over here instead of james' picks thread

    Quote Originally Posted by Timmah2483 View Post
    "According to the table above, if you use this tactic, then your odds of winning are 99.99 percent." THATS JUST BELOW THE TABLE! read the whole page LARRY

    Rubytuesday, I know all the systems, ive been gambling for 10 yrs.. but he asked how the odds went up, and sadly, thats a beginner level system.

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