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Pinny Now Getting Consistently Beat By 5Dimes
In terms of having better lines (particularly ML dogs). This is a recent development I have noticed.
I notice them beating even Matchy on some too.
Example: GB +125 @ 5D; +120 @ Pinny; +122 @ Matchbook
I have to think Pinny (matchy on some) are cutting back the value, cause they're almost on par with shops like BM or Greek now, because it was always (in terms of line value): 1) Matchy 2) Pinny 3) 5D.
Well if Pinny and 5D are both running 10 cent lines then 5D will always be better than Pinny on one side of the line (unless they are identical) so what's your point? Your concept of value seems a bit confused - just because 5D is better odds on the dog and Pinny on the fave it isn't automatic that 5D is offering value.
Pinnacle is better than 5Dimes, no contest.
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Last edited by sportsfanatic; 01-09-11 at 06:17 AM.
5 dimes might be better at some markets, but there are numerous markets where pinny beats everyone.
This is interesting but of what I heard 5 dimes is very fast when it comes to limiting, making the comparison a bit unfair. I mean, if you only accept very small stakes it´s a lot easier too keep low juice. So, isn´t this just some kind of marketing from 5 dimes to show they can compete with Pinnys pricing? When in reality those lines can only be used for small stakes and by "recreationals"?
5 Dimes you can bet $200 and Pinnacle $10,000 and up
5 Dimes could not afford to pay 10K winners
case fukkin closed
Pinnacle the best, no game
you need to calculate bookie's edge to figure out which one is better. I'd still go for Pinnacle
Just use them all if you can, why think about which is better...but for betting larger amounts it is no contest, Pinny is for Pros and 5Dimes is not.
I have found several places that offered value compared with Pinny. I have been limited or kicked out of each one of them. Beat Tony and see what G*D has to say. He'll boot your ass so hard you won't find it for a week.
$500 limit on the RJ at 5Dimes at +110 for Green Bay.
$30K limit at Pinny at +109 for Green Bay atm.
I know the limits, just saying I rarely ever saw 5D with better line value than Pinny, now I see it often. Also seeing Pinny go up to 15 cent lines, when they used to have like 8 cent lines.
Bad title, fine.
this title is joke, 5Dimes should be E or F rated, becose they steal money.
5Dimes dominates Pinny in terms of betting options, but limits are low.
Both are good outs
Pinny pays out no prob, never a prob
In the 100,000 products on the shelf, Wal-Mart doesn't always have the lowest price either...
QUESTION
is 5dimes sketchy? i was gonna get a friend to send me monetey there.
if a site charges low vig, shouldnt they also have low limits? and if a site has high vig, cant they afford to have v. high limits?
more ignorance...you are obviously one of the many many shot takers who has tried to fukk them out of a bad line, got caught and chucked. tony is no saint, but he is fair and very rarely will you come across one of the complaint cases and find that 5dimes is in the wrongOriginally Posted by kkkkk
They'll limit you and ban you if they don't like your plays, but I believe they always pay.
You just have selective memory. With the exception of ncaab totals pinny's holds are lower than ever. They've made them more consistent. That 5dimes has better prices on one side of a game often is irrelevant, most rec books do every day.
Only time 5dimes offers a better price than Pinnacle is if they are either trying to balance their action or they are slow to react to Pinnacles line move.
5dimes is the most notorious copycat book out there and would not be around if it was not for Pinnacle.
I noticed the past few days that more and more of my soccer plays were going with 5Dimes .. lines do seem much more competitive recently.
I have been noticing recently that many lines which are lined at something like
+4 -101
-4 -109
at Pinnacle will still be -105/-105 at 5Dimes. I don't know if this is on purpose or if they are slow to "clone" Pinny's line. It looks like they don't try to clone every Pinny line though. It often happens you see -108 at 5Dimes for something which is -109 at Pinnacle.
Of course, you can only bet to win $500 max on 5Dimes reduced juice. But they are a very solid out. To say that a professional wouldn't play there is just dumb. A professional should have many outs.
And for games like the Green Bay game mentioned, they often let you wager the reduced juice line many times without moving it. If you wager the max, try again in a couple of minutes if the line has not moved. Sometimes it will go through.
5Dimes sucks! They are a pussy ass book. End of story.
that is impossible 5Dimes will never be as trusted as Pinny
If you know what you're doing you'll be booted in no time; Pinny is overwhelmingly superior.
Pinny is miles better than Dimes...and thats a small sample size. 90% of the time Pinny has the better price
right now I see Pinny has an 11 cent range on the ncaa championship. 5dimes has a 10cent margin, and will stay 10 cents up to around +200. Pinny's will go up to 15 cents after +115 or so. 5dimes will have 5 cent overnight baseball lines. So quite often, 5dimes will charge less juice than Pinny. However, this does not make 5dimes "better" than Pinny. Because, if Pinny has the best number for the favorite, then 5dimes will have the better for the dog, and VC-versa. "Better lines" are not to be determined by who has the best payout on a certain favorite or dog. It is ridiculous to talk about who has the best lines, unless you are referring to amount of juice taken.
they're good, better by heaps than 5D but not the best
I place my bets where I can get my money on at the best price on offer
In the past couple of days I've bet on something like 40 tennis matches .. only 3 of them at Pinnacle .. about 70% of the rest at Betfair
Well said JJ.
5 Dimes you can bet $200 and Pinnacle $10,000 and up
5 Dimes could not afford to pay 10K winners
case fukkin closed
5Dimes' odds are higher then pinnacle sometimes but we can't compare Pinny and 5D. One of them is the biggest book on earth. They accept/tolerance pro action. On the other side, 5D is for recreational bettors.
Btw, please be advised that Betfair comission is only %1.99 in hockey market. Betfair hockey odds may be higher then Pinnacle sometimes. Not always of course! There is a dramatical difference in limit/liquidity of course. You won't be able to bet 10k at Betfair since hockey liquidity is low. But you can place 1k-2k with ease. If you bet 300-500$ per game like you, you'll be fine with BF. Also you should use 5D 'til they show you the door. Reduced Juice is a great bonus.
Is the betfair hockey comission stated in their rules and are there other markets with lower commission
are you referring to Ice Hockey?
I was unaware of that reduced market rate.
In fact I've been playing there and my comm. has always been based on the 5% standard base rate.
And just looking at the current screens (which always show the base rate) :
5% Market Base Rate (minus your discount)
so where are you getting that from Sawyer?
My nhl commission at betfair shows up as 5%.Are you counting your discount rate ?
5 Dimes is very good for squares, not a book for guys betting serious money.
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