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  • rkelly110
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    • 10-05-09
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    #36
    Originally posted by MUHerd37
    China invade the U.S.??? Come and invade the South. See how that works for ya.
    Try to invade the north also, 1m hunters strong in PA alone.
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    • sideloaded
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      • 08-21-10
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      #37
      lol at all you tough guys, guess what dummies all your ammo is from china!! LOL what dumb asses.
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      • Emily_Haines
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        • 04-14-09
        • 15917

        #38
        All you tough guys would be working in rice fields or dead within a week of the invasion.
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        • Sunde91
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          • 11-26-09
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          #39
          Our secondary and university education system is one of, if not the best on the planet



          Loads of highly delusional fellows in here
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          • MysteryMung
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            • 02-11-11
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            #40
            Originally posted by Sunde91
            Our secondary and university education system is one of, if not the best on the planet



            Loads of highly delusional fellows in here
            LOL - what are you comparing us to? Renmin University? Peking University? Qing-hua University? Jiao-tong University? Oh wait, that's the only 4 decent and reputable universities in China? You mean the universities where they don't even let DOMESTIC STUDENTS enter the FOREIGN STUDENT BUILDING? Lol. Clearly you're the typical delusional poster that has no idea what China is like, or how their university system is.

            It's clear the University system of the United States is superior to that of China for certain. Care to elaborate as to who ranks ahead? Let's count number of prestigious academic institutions, giving you +1000, no limit if you can provide a country that ranks ahead of the States.

            I also like how you find ONE LINE in my post and try to categorize me as delusional LOL. Care to argue against the rest of what I posted? I can barely hear your queef now.

            PS - fix the pic dipshit, learn how to computer.
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            • MysteryMung
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              • 02-11-11
              • 670

              #41
              Originally posted by sideloaded
              lol at all you tough guys, guess what dummies all your ammo is from china!! LOL what dumb asses.
              What guns would they shoot them out of? Hammer and pinning the bullets?

              Just because they make something, doesn't mean they have the slightest idea WTF it's for. They also make Oklahoma Sooner and Michigan Wolverine hats there.....and deodorant. None of those three things for example, do the Chinese know shit about.
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              • sideloaded
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                #42
                wat?
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                • Grits n' Gravy
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                  • 06-10-10
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                  All you tough guys would be working in rice fields or dead within a week of the invasion.
                  As long as they kill you first, I could care less what happens.

                  Mods- can we please donate points to buy this Emily guy a 1 way ticket to China and revoke his US citizenship?
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                  • doublej95
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                    • 01-26-10
                    • 14094

                    #44
                    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

                    As long as they kill you first, I could care less what happens.

                    Mods- can we please donate points to buy this Emily guy a 1 way ticket to China and revoke his US citizenship?

                    I'm all for that but we should at least let Emily pick between Iran and China, that would only be fair.
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                    • Emily_Haines
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                      • 04-14-09
                      • 15917

                      #45
                      Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                      As long as they kill you first, I could care less what happens.

                      Mods- can we please donate points to buy this Emily guy a 1 way ticket to China and revoke his US citizenship?
                      I'm not sticking around. Arrangements are in place to leave this cess pool. Enjoy your shitty presidents, diminishing freedoms, losing wars, enormous debt and massive unemployment.
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                      • Grits n' Gravy
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                        • 06-10-10
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                        #46
                        Originally posted by Sunde91
                        Our secondary and university education system is one of, if not the best on the planet



                        Loads of highly delusional fellows in here
                        Actually the majority of Chinese who have the financial means all want their children to go to college in USA. The ones that can't afford it will try and bribe Chinese custom officials for forged paperwork to get their kid stateside. The higher education system in China is not solid. By the time kids there are 13 their futures are pretty much determined by the government. Some of the major factories in China that house the workers have installed netting all around buildings and windows to prevent jumpers after a handful of foxcon workers jumped to their deaths.

                        Be thankful we live in USA. Being semi-poor here is still damn good. Be extra thankful if you are white and live in USA.
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                        • Emily_Haines
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                          • 04-14-09
                          • 15917

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                          Actually the majority of Chinese who have the financial means all want their children to go to college in USA. The ones that can't afford it will try and bribe Chinese custom officials for forged paperwork to get their kid stateside. The higher education system in China is not solid. By the time kids there are 13 their futures are pretty much determined by the government. Some of the major factories in China that house the workers have installed netting all around buildings and windows to prevent jumpers after a handful of foxcon workers jumped to their deaths.

                          Be thankful we live in USA. Being semi-poor here is still damn good. Be extra thankful if you are white and live in USA.
                          You're a slave and don't even know it.
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                          • MysteryMung
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                            • 02-11-11
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by Sunde91
                            China vs. US would be like Bama vs. LSU the other night

                            Many in this thread dont grasp how fast China is improving with a 1.3 billion population that's 99% homogenous, and motivated. Compared to 300 million divided sloth composed of every color under the sun. No contest. Not to mention they avg 20+ points higher IQ and arent 15 trillion in debt
                            Wow I just saw this pathetic comment. You clearly have never been to or seen China. 1.3 billion people? SO WHAT? The majority of them live in FARMS, with NO RUNNING WATER or ELECTRICITY. They shit in CINDER BLOCK TOILETS and REUSE human feces for fertilizer.

                            You have no ******* CLUE what China is like on the inside. 99% homogenous and motivated? There are over 40 minority classes in China, as well as dozens of millions of young, EDUCATED and INFORMED people who are extremely dissatisfied with their government. What a joke you are. Did you even know that there are two tracts of human existence in China? Did you know that a rural tract citizen is forever ENTRENCHED and STUCK in the rural tract? Attending RURAL SCHOOL? With no ability to ATTEND UNIVERSITY? Meanwhile, if you're born in the cities, you're on a Metropolitan Tract, which allows public city schooling, plus eligibility for entrance examinations to all of the best universities in the country.

                            The fact of the matter is that China is so fuucking disparate, that they have to ARTIFICIALLY CONTROL which HUMAN BEINGS are allowed to live WHAT LIVES. 99% HOMOGENOUS? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.

                            And let's be real about WAR for a second here shitbag. You have NO IDEA how puny and pussy most Chinese are physically, just from being BORN in China. Even Chinese-Americans are twice the size of their little counterparts.

                            And what exactly is "no contest" - you don't call the shots because you can win a math quiz contest World dominance and hegemony isn't determined by how many science olympiad questions we answer correctly. For the stats that matter:

                            We've got about a dozen more aircraft carrier, with state of the art technology that China has no clue about. And let's be real, 20 points on your IQ isn't going to help shit when someone who's 20 pounds heavier with 20 more years of experience using firearms or advanced weaponry is pumping your dumpling making ass full of lead.

                            Get a clue, China isn't even CLOSE to what you imagine it to be. Maybe you can ask Dad and Mom to hook you up with a trip over there b/c it's real clear you've got no clue WTF you're talking about.

                            And I'm pretty sure some of that 15 trillion in debt, went to make Supercarriers, B-2 Stealth Bombers, Lasers that shoot nukes out of the sky, and a bunch of other star wars shit that the Chinese are decades from stockpiling. 30 years ago when we were well passed our "industrial conversion" we were already stockpiling after Vietnam. 30 years ago, Mao was trying to build a steel mill in every neighborhood in China
                            Last edited by MysteryMung; 01-12-12, 06:03 PM.
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                            • Grits n' Gravy
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                              • 06-10-10
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by doublej95


                              I'm all for that but we should at least let Emily pick between Iran and China, that would only be fair.
                              Add anywhere in Middle East, Africa and Haiti and I will pay for the 1 way ticket. The clown just needs to be gone by May 1st. Will throw in a box of condoms so he can take his life partner Forsberg with him.
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                              • doublej95
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                                • 01-26-10
                                • 14094

                                #50
                                FoxConn workers threaten mass suicide. Sounds like one hell of a great place, enjoy it Emily.





                                I suppose in a country where worker strikes can be met with mass arrests, the threat of mass suicide is a more palpable one. Foxconn has gotten plenty of bad press over its Apple operations – a mass suicide would be really bad PR for the company.

                                Then again, this is some pretty high stakes negotiating on the part of the workers. Suicide sort of closes the book on any future … everything.

                                The labor situation in China is certainly far from perfect. In a closed society with no hint of real democracy, no real free commerce, a highly intrusive managerial state, and so forth, it’s unsurprising that workers are treated poorly.
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                                • doublej95
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                                  • 01-26-10
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                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy

                                  Add anywhere in Middle East, Africa and Haiti and I will pay for the 1 way ticket. The clown just needs to be gone by May 1st. Will throw in a box of condoms so he can take his life partner Forsberg with him.

                                  I would split the ticket with you to send Emily to a nice nation in Africa. Preferably one ruled by a warlord that like's to chop peoples arms off that speak out against them.
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                                  • Grits n' Gravy
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                                    • 06-10-10
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                    You're a slave and don't even know it.
                                    My ancestors may have been but I certainly am not.

                                    You are a loser in all aspects of life and everybody here knows it, including yourself.

                                    Can't wait to see the you tube clips of you and Sally Struthers fighting over some cookies in Ghana.
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                                    • MysteryMung
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                                      • 02-11-11
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                      My ancestors may have been but I certainly am not.

                                      You are a loser in all aspects of life and everybody here knows it, including yourself.

                                      Can't wait to see the you tube clips of you and Sally Struthers fighting over some cookies in Ghana.
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                                      • Sunde91
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                                        • 11-26-09
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                                        #54
                                        u mad hmong? your familly is off the boat from SE Asia and you have an inherent resentment of China -305

                                        Secondary has nothing to do with university now does it. Average to below average results from secondary students

                                        School performance league tables from the OECD report, Education at a Glance.


                                        now pound that keyboard again and make another 500 word ramble with gratuitious capitalizations
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                                        • WvGambler
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                                          • 04-19-10
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                                          #55
                                          Mysterymung hammering sunde and Emily in this thread. Damn.
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                                          • Emily_Haines
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                                            • 04-14-09
                                            • 15917

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                            My ancestors may have been but I certainly am not.

                                            You are a loser in all aspects of life and everybody here knows it, including yourself.

                                            Can't wait to see the you tube clips of you and Sally Struthers fighting over some cookies in Ghana.
                                            You owe the government 143k and that bought you the massive military that gets their ass kicked in every conflict.

                                            The US cries and cries about North Korea and Iran bought won't do shit to them because they have and advanced military unlike the usual cupcakes (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya). Hopefully the US sticks to their pathetic sanctions because if a shooting war breaks out they will be getting fuked up.
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                                            • doublej95
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                                              • 01-26-10
                                              • 14094

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Emily_Haines

                                              You owe the government 143k and that bought you the massive military that gets their ass kicked in every conflict.

                                              The US cries and cries about North Korea and Iran bought won't do shit to them because they have and advanced military unlike the usual cupcakes (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya). Hopefully the US sticks to their pathetic sanctions because if a shooting war breaks out they will be getting fuked up.


                                              Iraq use to have the 4th largest army in the world and was very seasoned in war battles. 100 hours into Desert Storm and the Iraq army was left with nothing.
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                                              • Emily_Haines
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                                                • 04-14-09
                                                • 15917

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by doublej95
                                                Iraq use to have the 4th largest army in the world and was very seasoned in war battles. 100 hours into Desert Storm and the Iraq army was left with nothing.
                                                In your tiny brain. 30 years of sanctions, 8 years of war with Iran and Gulf war 1 was no factor. Plus the US got their asses handed to them in the Iraq war.
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                                                • MysteryMung
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                                                  • 02-11-11
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Sunde91
                                                  u mad hmong? your familly is off the boat from SE Asia and you have an inherent resentment of China -305

                                                  Secondary has nothing to do with university now does it. Average to below average results from secondary students

                                                  School performance league tables from the OECD report, Education at a Glance.


                                                  now pound that keyboard again and make another 500 word ramble with gratuitious capitalizations
                                                  WAY OFF bro - HMONG? My family is off the boat from SE ASIAN?? LOL. I have no resentment of Asia whatsoever, as a matter of fact I've LIVED in Beijing and Shanghai, and go 4-5 times a year to do business in Shenzhen, Hong Kong, Guangzhou, Shanghai, Chongqing, Beijing. I love travelling to China, the food, the culture. Just because I don't believe they are the next world power and just because I'm not eating their shit like you, doesn't mean I'm have any resentment. Way to reflect your OWN personal issues as someone else's lol. Only a dumpling maker like yourself would take such a dick sucking position on China.

                                                  Now go find another ONE line or ONE sentence you can cling onto for dear life and attempt to remain relevant in this debate. Or better yet, try to brush off my on point criticisms and arguments with "go make another 500 word ramble". You're an idiot, plain and simple - 91? LOL - when you become an adult, come back and talk. Until then, keep your uneducated, uninformed, untravelled ass off substantive threads queefer.
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                                                  • doublej95
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                                                    • 01-26-10
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by Emily_Haines

                                                    In your tiny brain. 30 years of sanctions, 8 years of war with Iran and Gulf war 1 was no factor. Plus the US got their asses handed to them in the Iraq war.


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                                                    • FourLengthsClear
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                                                      • 12-29-10
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                                                      #61
                                                      The OP is about economics it has nothing to do with 'invading'. China could not invade the US but neither does it have any desire to so it is all moot.

                                                      MysteryMung's contributions are factually accurate but ignore just how far and how quickly China has moved in the last 30 years. It will become will world's biggest ecomony despite having an education system based on learning by rote and 80% of its population being subsistence farmers.

                                                      There will be massive social pressures as time goes on and clearly the Communist Party is not the ideal institution to manage the changes needed as the growing middle class begin to demand more freedoms and start to become resentful of the huge subsidies that will be needed to pull the hinterland up from poverty levels. All of that will be a fascinating process to watch from the outside.
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                                                      • Deep_Rest
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                                                        • 11-29-10
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                                                        #62
                                                        I'm a high school teacher in Guangzhou and I can say with full confidence that 80% of my students don't want to spend the rest of their lives in China. They actually really love Canada which makes me puke (jokes, eh?).

                                                        China may become the world's largest economy but that's irrelevant. They will never be the military superpower of the world. The corrupt yuan will never be the international standard. One of the most underrated things that makes the US so powerful is worldwide cultural influence–whether it's some stupid Internet meme, Avatar, the iPhone, or Lady Gaga, when something gets popular in the US, it goes global. The same can't be said for China. They can have all the political power they want, but without cultural influence they will always be viewed as a fluke and not a true worldwide leader.

                                                        A war between the US and China is highly unlikely as well...even an economic war since that would shatter the global economy. The only "war" that will ever be fought between China and the US is on the cultural front and China is hopelessly outmatched in this regard. So much in fact that China is trying to step up efforts to curtail Western influence (music, movies, etc.) in order to create a more unified Chinese mentality.

                                                        As for this 99% homogenous thing...China actually has tons of different minorities...many of which admittedly don't like the US, but are also very critical of China. In Xinjiang Province (between Kazakhstan and Mongolia) you can speak perfect Mandarin and people still won't understand you. There are tons of Muslims who look more Russian than Chinese and the few I talked to really hate both the US and China. This is one of the least populated provinces in China but it still illustrates a point. Of course, Tibet doesn't need mentioning since we know their sentiments towards China. Many schools in Guangdong Province (where I teach) prohibit speaking Cantonese on school property and my co-workers take offense to this because the rule is trying to stamp out their heritage. Many people I've talked to in Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan (China still claims Taiwan as part of China), think mainlanders are dirty. They also criticize them for using simplified Chinese characters vs. traditional characters. This may seem like a hollow point, but I've seen some folks get in really heated arguments over this kind of stuff. Outside the huge cities, especially Beijing, nationalism levels take a huge plunge.
                                                        Last edited by Deep_Rest; 01-12-12, 09:44 PM.
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                                                        • Salmon Steak
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                                                          • 03-05-10
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                                                          #63


                                                          But do they have the ALL AMERICAN dog?
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                                                          • wtf
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                                                            • 08-22-08
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                                                            #64
                                                            i live in china

                                                            and one factor always overlooked is what the west is doing either by design or accident is exporting POLLUTION

                                                            you have no idea how fukked up china is, it is a major disaster waiting to happen

                                                            of course the press sometimes lets some stories out, but you would be shocked on how the population is being exposed
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                                                            • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                              You owe the government 143k and that bought you the massive military that gets their ass kicked in every conflict.

                                                              The US cries and cries about North Korea and Iran bought won't do shit to them because they have and advanced military unlike the usual cupcakes (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya). Hopefully the US sticks to their pathetic sanctions because if a shooting war breaks out they will be getting fuked up.
                                                              Can you show me a bill saying I owe 143k to government? Since you are living in US then you owe as well. You likely don't pay taxes and are unemployed so those of us that earn our money have to fork over cash to subsidize your sorry ass existence.

                                                              North Korea is no concern to us. They talk a lot but that's it. Iran is going to implode on their own. The sanctions are hurting the people and Israel is dropping their nuclear experts on a regular basis. They are not a real threat to anybody but themselves.
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                                                              • Emily_Haines
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                                                                • 04-14-09
                                                                • 15917

                                                                #66
                                                                Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                                Can you show me a bill saying I owe 143k to government? Since you are living in US then you owe as well. You likely don't pay taxes and are unemployed so those of us that earn our money have to fork over cash to subsidize your sorry ass existence.

                                                                North Korea is no concern to us. They talk a lot but that's it. Iran is going to implode on their own. The sanctions are hurting the people and Israel is dropping their nuclear experts on a regular basis. They are not a real threat to anybody but themselves.
                                                                Look at the debt per tax payer.

                                                                Continuously Updated US National Debt Clock Real Time US Debt Clock, Mortgage Calculator, Loan Calculator


                                                                I quit my job and cashed out my 401k. No way am I going to finance any more corruption in this country. I don't owe any of this money and WILL NOT pay. That is for you slaves people with jobs to do.

                                                                FYI the sanctions are not hurting Iran. They can just sell their oil to countries that will just ignore the sanctions like Russia, China and all of Latin America. Israel resorts to these cowardly attacks because they cannot win a real war against Iran. Iran is not going to take this shit for ever and in short time they will rid the world of those trouble makers for good.
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                                                                • Grits n' Gravy
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                                  Look at the debt per tax payer.

                                                                  Continuously Updated US National Debt Clock Real Time US Debt Clock, Mortgage Calculator, Loan Calculator


                                                                  I quit my job and cashed out my 401k. No way am I going to finance any more corruption in this country. I don't owe any of this money and WILL NOT pay. That is for you slaves people with jobs to do.

                                                                  FYI the sanctions are not hurting Iran. They can just sell their oil to countries that will just ignore the sanctions like Russia, China and all of Latin America. Israel resorts to these cowardly attacks because they cannot win a real war against Iran. Iran is not going to take this shit for ever and in short time they will rid the world of those trouble makers for good.
                                                                  So you are an unemployed loser who took a 30% tax hit to cash out your 401k early. I'm sure you did well with that. So well that you still are living in America. Last I checked the Chinese and Japanese stopped buying oil from Iran. The Iranian people are panicking and the dissidents to the ruling party are getting more vocal by the day. So strapping a bomb to a kid and sending him into a bus full of civilians isn't cowardly but targeting and killing a nuclear weapon specialist is? Ok there Osama Hitler. I hope some US soldiers water board you with gasoline before kicking you out of the country.
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                                                                  • Emily_Haines
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                                                                    • 04-14-09
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Grits n' Gravy
                                                                    So you are an unemployed loser who took a 30% tax hit to cash out your 401k early. I'm sure you did well with that. So well that you still are living in America. Last I checked the Chinese and Japanese stopped buying oil from Iran. The Iranian people are panicking and the dissidents to the ruling party are getting more vocal by the day. So strapping a bomb to a kid and sending him into a bus full of civilians isn't cowardly but targeting and killing a nuclear weapon specialist is? Ok there Osama Hitler. I hope some US soldiers water board you with gasoline before kicking you out of the country.
                                                                    FYI, It was a 20% tax hit and worth every penny to get out of the system.

                                                                    The Iranian people were so upset with the sanctions that they trashed the UK embassy and hate the USA. Don't recall any Iranians strapping bombs to little kids, that's just the crap that FOX news feeds to the brain dead zombies. Also Japan and China are not going to stop buying oil from Iran. The US can get all those pussy NATO states to go along with the sanctions since they pay for their defense. Everyone else will tell the US to fuk off.

                                                                    Can't wait for Iran to start sinking ships and driving the price of gas to $10/gal. because it will hit losers such as yourself especially hard.
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                                                                    • nick86
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                                                                      • 04-27-11
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Why does this have to be some big dick waving contest over who can fuk up the other country more? Why not just let everyone be? It's so sickening how dumb most americans are.
                                                                      Last edited by nick86; 01-13-12, 01:11 AM.
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                                                                      • sideloaded
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                                                                        #70
                                                                        Originally posted by nick86
                                                                        Why does this have to be some big dick waving contest over who can fuk up the other country more? Why not just let everyone be? It's so sickening how dumb most americans are.
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