BetOnStars.com ensnared me !!!

**Illusion** · 09-15-05, 12:24 AM

I moved the wrong thread, so it's my fault. I never meant to move this one, lol.

**midnight** · 09-15-05, 12:49 AM

Originally posted by Betonstar-ensnare-me

Who is the user "midnight" ? Where he from ?

Now why would you care who I am or where I'm from if you're new yourself? Are you a regular on the sports watchdog forums posting under another name?

Come to think of it, your broken English routine seems fake.

I'm somebody who hasn't been around the sports betting forums much in the past two years. I registered for two forums today because of you and your bullsh*t scamming. What you're doing is a sore point with me.

Here's a clue: Continuing to whine and cry won't get you any money. Screaming and shouting won't get you any money. Maybe you can try EOG. I hear they like to help scammers get paid.

**Senator7** · 09-15-05, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by midnight

Maybe you can try EOG. I hear they like to help scammers get paid.

Ouch! And the ref takes a point away...

Senator 7

**pags11** · 09-15-05, 02:59 AM

interesting thread here...

**DIF** · 09-15-05, 03:50 AM

thanks for your post.

this book sucks...you should have your winnings-balance and yes....they do it to trap you...for sure.

close your account..yes thats acceptable...cancel your bet..yes...but you should off course have your winnings from earlier bets you earned.

this is a book that try earn money on their own fault.......and they sucks so bad.....

**Brick Tamland** · 09-15-05, 04:16 AM

Talk about greed.

To summarize... You have 30 days where you have to bet free money in order to be able to withdraw. Im that 30 days this guy tries to steal 4000??

No way he should get a cent. This is an obvious one.

**Betonstar-ensnare-me** · 09-15-05, 04:26 AM

Originally posted by midnight

Now why would you care who I am or where I'm from if you're new yourself? Are you a regular on the sports watchdog forums posting under another name?

Come to think of it, your broken English routine seems fake.

I'm somebody who hasn't been around the sports betting forums much in the past two years. I registered for two forums today because of you and your bullsh*t scamming. What you're doing is a sore point with me.

Here's a clue: Continuing to whine and cry won't get you any money. Screaming and shouting won't get you any money. Maybe you can try EOG. I hear they like to help scammers get paid.

Maybe I am wrong as asking that question ! It's not necessary,at least for me.
Sorry but I don't cry and never,I don't drink also.
I have many think to do,for my life and for work,not only gambling.
Yes,I'm rather regret because the amount is not small.I had plan to withdraw all of my money on Sept 19th but the problem has been occured and I lost all that I made before by my betting skill.
It's great ! When posting this thread,I don't expect all your discuss many such that.And I am success as many and many people know this problem.
Keep it continuing

**HAPPY BOY** · 09-15-05, 05:05 AM

theres aa great American saying said best by President Bush, and I quote "Fool me once shame on you Fool me twice ???? The thing is you cant get fooled again."

George W. Bush

**Emmdoubleu** · 09-15-05, 08:24 AM

This thread is long and entertaining, but before you start jumping on this losers side, he has admitted trying to scam several books (and he names them) in the past, posting on games that are already completed. He ridicules Betonstars because when the previous books busted him for cheating, they simply canceled his bets and moved on. The problem with that is obvious, it provides no deterrent for the player to stop this practice. So this loser continues on trying to scam books. I applaud Betonstars for taking the money and sending it to the Red Cross. If the other books he tried to scam were more aggressive, perhaps this would have stopped sooner.

It continues to amaze me that this cheater continues to get pockets of support. Unbelievable that someone can get behind this guy...maybe they aren't taking the time to read the entire thread.

**LGBoots** · 09-15-05, 08:51 AM

Trying it on with a 7 match parlay on 'dead' matches after building your balance up so high (I presume with legit bets )

defies logic. Why did you try & screw this book after doing so well, I guess greed got the better of you.

I think the book has done the right thing in this case & at least you can take comfort in the fact that your cash has gone to a good cause

Play fair by books & they will play fair by you (Well most of them anyway )

**OldeTymePlaya** · 09-15-05, 09:17 AM

Originally posted by HAPPY BOY

theres aa great American saying said best by President Bush, and I quote "Fool me once shame on you Fool me twice ???? The thing is you cant get fooled again."

George W. Bush

He's a silver-tongued devil, that one.

:an_roll_l

**Brick Tamland** · 09-15-05, 03:03 PM

Jay88,

What would have happened if this happened a week from now? Would he have gotten his $?

**jay88** · 09-15-05, 03:18 PM

Of course he would have. As long as you don't cheat you are going to get paid. we have absolutely no problem paying honest winners. Deposit, get your bonus, do your roll over or time restrictions and withdrawal as simple as that.
But we have no mercy on cheaters.
With betonstars.com you can't withdrawal the bonus and your deposit amount untill you are done with your rollover, but your winnings you can request them anytime.
Of course if you want to withdrawal everything before you are done with the requirememnts, we'll send it to, you but you loose the transaction fees and bonus.
We have a great promotion running at this moment, for all new players to try us out with a small deposit.
Try us out if you want and you'll see by yourself that we pay.

**Heysosamakeamove** · 09-15-05, 03:35 PM

Why this book give out parlays on soccer, most book take only straight plays to don’t find them self in this situation.

**Bill Dozer** · 09-15-05, 06:03 PM

I think Brick is asking if he had cheated after his roll was completed, how would you have handled it?

**jay88** · 09-15-05, 07:48 PM

Well Bill, that is a completely different situation... I'm pretty sure that he would have received part of the money because at the end after the rollover and all the requirements the money is his to request. But I have no idea what exactly would have happened. It wasn't a simple decision the one we took and we had to go over it several times. I would have to do the same thing with your example and than I could reply you...

**marc** · 09-15-05, 09:15 PM

In my mind, the amount one tries to steal, should be the amount taken form his account. If he tried to steal 4k, a 4k penalty would be within reason.

People can say that WEb and DIme were good books for merely canceling his wagers. But if either of them had done what Betonstars did, he would have stopped doing this a long time ago. I'm guessing after this, Ensnare-me will think long and hard before ever attempting this again.

**raiders72001** · 09-15-05, 10:58 PM

But if either of them had done what Betonstars did, he would have stopped doing this a long time ago. I'm guessing after this, Ensnare-me will think long and hard before ever attempting this again.

great point. Scammers shouldn't be given a free ride.

**Terris** · 09-15-05, 11:10 PM

the neverending thread...i think raiders has pointed out his anti-scammer believes about 10 times now? maybe its JJgold under a second handle? :-P

**Brooks** · 09-15-05, 11:15 PM

Originally posted by jay88

Of course he would have. As long as you don't cheat you are going to get paid. we have absolutely no problem paying honest winners. Deposit, get your bonus, do your roll over or time restrictions and withdrawal as simple as that.
But we have no mercy on cheaters.
With betonstars.com you can't withdrawal the bonus and your deposit amount untill you are done with your rollover, but your winnings you can request them anytime.
Of course if you want to withdrawal everything before you are done with the requirememnts, we'll send it to, you but you loose the transaction fees and bonus.
We have a great promotion running at this moment, for all new players to try us out with a small deposit.
Try us out if you want and you'll see by yourself that we pay.

hey jay, i must tell you i dont sign up with new books since the panam fiasco but i liked the way you handled things and i hope the OP realized that when you expect integrity from the book, you have to show the same.

i went to you're website and took advantage of your 300 for 300 match with a 20x rollover (LOL) just to check betonstars out. i was new to the software which looks alot like betwwts but i made a wager without pitchers listed and your customer service in the wagering department was very good and took care of my mistake, however the girl answering the phone in the customer service dept. didnt know what i was talking about but she sounded pretty good looking

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good luck with your book and my friend "betonstars-ensnaredme" just called and said shilling will get rocked tonite so pleased open up a 7 teamer with oakland for me and i was hoping you could put me in for a 20 dollar parlay

take care.

**Emmdoubleu** · 09-16-05, 08:16 AM

my friend "betonstars-ensnaredme" just called and said shilling will get rocked tonite so pleased open up a 7 teamer with oakland for me and i was hoping you could put me in for a 20 dollar parlay

take care.[/QUOTE]

I always love that one