[imgv94]

What mod is changing the title to this thread almost daily?

[pimike]

what happened kellen

He if told the truth he had his money handed to me in a bow.

Big talker but bottom line he paid

[bettilimbroke999]

Probably all of us...we are just all a bunch of broke dick gamblers.

Seems like I've heard this somewhere before but I can't remember where

[diogee]

Seems like I've heard this somewhere before but I can't remember where

I think I was influenced by someone else...not quite sure who but I know I have heard that about 10 over the last few weeks.

[bettilimbroke999]

I think I was influenced by someone else...not quite sure who but I know I have heard that about 10 over the last few weeks.

Must be a real special individual whoever it was, I mean true he was probably anally raped repeatedly as a child by his friend Fish's uncle Cheeks and has developed a hatred for sports gambling as a result of Cheeks raping him whenever he'd lose a bet, but clearly a popular poster who is dedicated to letting us know we are all broke dick gamblers 50 times a day.

[Cloak & Dagger]

I lost and I am not ****ing paying them a cent.

This book is fishy as **** and I have subscribed to a service that watches my credit report.

[Cloak & Dagger]

They said the ISP blockers are worthless. They could get right through them and see the original ISP. I'm not computer savey so I don't know.

oh CW has the technology to trace IP's through proxys now?

but yet its like talking to a 12 year old in live chat

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

and you said you werent a shill.....

[robmpink]

oh CW has the technology to trace IP's through proxys now?

but yet its like talking to a 12 year old in live chat

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

and you said you werent a shill.....

What was this on page 12 of this thread? You are obsessed w/ CW. Go make 10 more screen names loser.

[flyingillini]

Wow someone again called me and said they were sending someone over to collect. I don't even use this book anymore and I don't owe them a penny. They need to get their act together. Blackdog is a top notch credit book. CW should take some pointers from them.

[Cannon]

f\*\*k anybody who is so broke they can't post money. Don't gamble if you don't have the money. Simple!!

[pimike]

Wow someone again called me and said they were sending someone over to collect. I don't even use this book anymore and I don't owe them a penny. They need to get their act together. Blackdog is a top notch credit book. CW should take some pointers from them.

[Cloak & Dagger]

Wow someone again called me and said they were sending someone over to collect. I don't even use this book anymore and I don't owe them a penny. They need to get their act together. Blackdog is a top notch credit book. CW should take some pointers from them.

so they call you and tell you you owe them when you dont?

[myr10]

just got an email from cw, they no longer require ssn and they even made a stiff list lmao http://www.creditwagering.com/stiffs

[flyingillini]

so they call you and tell you you owe them when you dont?

Apparently so.

[pimike]

just got an email from cw, they no longer require ssn and they even made a stiff list lmao http://www.creditwagering.com/stiffs

Dumbass this was not supposed to be published today.

Why and in the hell did u do that?

[Cloak & Dagger]

Dumbass this was not supposed to be published today.

Why and in the hell did u do that?

you dont work there...why do you care?

[myr10]

i havent posted in weeks but once i saw that email i had 2 post lol. if it wasnt published why would u send it out in an email now? why not wait til it was published?

[imgv94]

Got the email today..

Thank you to all of our valued customers for your continuous feedback to help us make CreditWagering even better!

• Debit Cards have arrived!
• When you make your next withdrawal a Debit Card will be sent to you. Your card will be sent out on Wednesday, 2 day service and arrive on Friday. Funds will be uploaded upon arrival.
• On Friday you will receive an email that will tell you how to access your card online and how to use it. Log on to LIVE CHAT to receive the PIN and the debit card is ready for use.
• Cards are RELOADABLE. DO NOT THROW THEM AWAY!
• Once you have your card, all withdrawals will be processed on Wednesdays and funds available Thursdays 2PM EST
  
  
  
• ************
• Only can be used to pay Settlement Money Owed.
• 100% Credit Card Acceptance with an available balance!
• Steps for using your credit card
• Go to cashier and enter card information
• Within 2-3 hours an email will be sent from our processor
• Link in email MUST BE CLICKED in order for transaction to be processed
• Normal approval time is 1-3 days but 100% Acceptance!
  
  
  
• SSN NO LONGER REQUIRED
• Our existing debit card provider does not require last 4 digits of a card holder’s social security number; therefore
• All new customers are no longer required to enter the last 4 digits of their SSN.
• All existing customers SSN information has been deleted from our records, as the information is no longer needed.
  
  
  
• Settlements
• So far NO ONE has been turned over to collections.
• Pay within 7 days and receive a 15% Bonus.
• 30-days to pay has been extended to 60-days but arrangements to pay MUST be made prior to 30 days.
• We are willing to work with any customer who wants to handle their responsibilities.
• On June 1st - any account outstanding for over 30 days with no payment arrangements will be sent to Collections.
• Any customer who wins and collects and then loses and doesn’t pay or make payment arrangements within the first 7 days will be categorized a Super Stiff!
• Super Stiffs will be treated differently.
• Come see at 5 PM EST Tuesday our first group of Super Stiffs http://www.creditwagering.com/stiffs
  
  
  
• Live Chat
• Hours of Operation are 9am EST till last game is over for the day.
• We can be reached via email for questions as well at csd@creditwagering.com

[flyingillini]

I think they are just going to close the stiff accounts and in the long run they will only be dealing with legit people. It is like money they never had. What kind of collection is going to be able to collect. Unreal all the talk about this. I just don't like the fact they get accounts messed up and call people who don't owe. Who knows it will be interesting to see. They hope to get paid by the people who owe. Any money they get will be a plus in their book and the money they don't collect oh well they probably figure. At least they got rid of stiffs and have real players. I wish them the best. It is all about BLACKDOGGIE

[pimike]

I think they are just going to close the stiff accounts and in the long run they will only be dealing with legit people. It is like money they never had. What kind of collection is going to be able to collect. Unreal all the talk about this. I just don't like the fact they get accounts messed up and call people who don't owe. Who knows it will be interesting to see. They hope to get paid by the people who owe. Any money they get will be a plus in their book and the money they don't collect oh well they probably figure. At least they got rid of stiffs and have real players. I wish them the best. It is all about BLACKDOGGIE

didn't u get paid from them
?

[Cloak & Dagger]

I think they are just going to close the stiff accounts and in the long run they will only be dealing with legit people. It is like money they never had. What kind of collection is going to be able to collect. Unreal all the talk about this. I just don't like the fact they get accounts messed up and call people who don't owe. Who knows it will be interesting to see. They hope to get paid by the people who owe. Any money they get will be a plus in their book and the money they don't collect oh well they probably figure. At least they got rid of stiffs and have real players. I wish them the best. It is all about BLACKDOGGIE

ya....and when everyones info is out there on their "stiff" site that will be the excuse huh?

"we messed up sorry"

[flyingillini]

ya....and when everyones info is out there on their "stiff" site that will be the excuse huh?

"we messed up sorry"

exactly!

[flyingillini]

didn't u get paid from them
?

no. I wagered a couple times. Ended up that I was even and just never played with them again. The last call I got from them the guy had a very threatening voice and was rude. I laughed and explained the mixup from before and they had it all taken care of. They must not of because it is starting again. Unless compakky can hack accounts haha. Who knows ya know. PMIKE... YOU EVER COME DOWN MY WAY FROM SD?

[pimike]

no. I wagered a couple times. Ended up that I was even and just never played with them again. The last call I got from them the guy had a very threatening voice and was rude. I laughed and explained the mixup from before and they had it all taken care of. They must not of because it is starting again. Unless compakky can hack accounts haha. Who knows ya know. PMIKE... YOU EVER COME DOWN MY WAY FROM SD?

not to much, I am heading that way to speak with a guy who one 1000 in casino play then lost the next week and refused to pay.

Was hopeing it wasn't u. U seem like a good honest person.

[Cloak & Dagger]

not to much, I am heading that way to speak with a guy who one 1000 in casino play then lost the next week and refused to pay.

Was hopeing it wasn't u. U seem like a good honest person.

I hope the person you visit is armed

[flyingillini]

not to much, I am heading that way to speak with a guy who one 1000 in casino play then lost the next week and refused to pay.

Was hopeing it wasn't u. U seem like a good honest person.

Wasn't me. I know there is about 30 people from a local bar that plays with CW. For some reason they keep saying I owe them. I have no reason why or no clue. As you know from living in Ca, Santa Barbara is very nice and expensive. You have to either have a great job or have money or both to live here. I would never stiff anyone. I pay all my bills along with 2 mortgages and it upsets me they think I owe them. Weird ya know. I am looking to buy some property in SD soon.

[pimike]

Wasn't me. I know there is about 30 people from a local bar that plays with CW. For some reason they keep saying I owe them. I have no reason why or no clue. As you know from living in Ca, Santa Barbara is very nice and expensive. You have to either have a great job or have money or both to live here. I would never stiff anyone. I pay all my bills along with 2 mortgages and it upsets me they think I owe them. Weird ya know. I am looking to buy some property in SD soon.

No I understand, have u ever had your id stolen?

They only go by Id sent them

[warriorfan707]

j$ Im up 2000 in less then a week.1000 from settlement for last week and already at my 1000 profit limit for this week. I've been paid around 3000 from them already and always get paid and they are nice to me. So I dunno wat to say.

somehow I get the feeling this is more often the case than not. I think if you follow the rules and win, you should be paid.

[flyingillini]

somehow I get the feeling this is more often the case than not. I think if you follow the rules and win, you should be paid.

Why would you even consider playing there when you have reputable books even Credit ones that are top notch. Makes no sense to risk it.

[picantel]

He is a new poster who come into SBR the same time as the other 500 shills did- in March. He has 14 posts and 12 of them are about CW. You do the math.

[warriorfan707]

He is a new poster who come into SBR the same time as the other 500 shills did- in March. He has 14 posts and 12 of them are about CW. You do the math.

I have yet to receive a penny from creditwagering.com and have heard rumors of them not coming through with the debit cards.

Not very effective shilling on my part

Everyone is driven by paranoia and suspicion on these sports forums. Thanks to sites like creditwagering.com which could very well be a mob operation for all we know.

I myself was happy trying to hammer 5dimes and then along come these fruitcakes dangling money in front of everyone for free, claiming to be the revolution of the gaming industry.

Overunder on how long this site will be there? Prop

Will the site be there on January 1st 2009?

Yes -230
No +215

[Cloak & Dagger]

He is a new poster who come into SBR the same time as the other 500 shills did- in March. He has 14 posts and 12 of them are about CW. You do the math.

[pavyracer]

Like most books, I don't think it's meant to be a scam out of the gate. I spoke to one of the owners today. They have a detailed plan, flawed as it may be. I think this is like any of the "rookie" books. Different novelty, likely same result. Players who get in fast for the bonus will be able to cashout. I wouldn't play there and even with their booking model aside, it's a place where players should be cautious.

They are operating anonymously in all areas right now and they don't have any references. You can't really blame a book for going the anonymous route these days if they can get players regardless. But, like the other new no-name books, there is nothing for them to lose if they call it a day.

The Pros are that no one should lose their post up. They have small limits and require players to settle weekly so they should be tested regularly if they managed to get some more forum users. The down side of that is if they run into a processing problem and can't pay, everyone who is in the hole says "hey, you weren't going to pay me if I won so I'm not paying you." So, they are out their money and losing all the players who they owe.

They have a $1000 max win for the week. This means that if you win a +1100 bet you are out $100. Doesn't carry over.

The problem with CW and a Blackdog is they don't realize the cost of a stiff. They may expect a modest 25% default rate but if all those players win 50% of the time before they stiff there will be guys that get them for $5500. I think they estimate the cost/stiff to be much lower than they will find out it is. If these books managed to be popular the fraudsters would come out in droves. Each stiff knows 20 others who will say, "oh, I lost my ID."

There is a reason why a good book cancels winnings when an EFT fails or a credit card transaction gets pulled back. They have to assume the money wasn't going to reach them if the player lost.

On paper it's less dangerous than any other no-name place that you have to send money to for a bonus.

My prediction is they have a big chunk of their customers on payment plans and another chunk of players accounts in the stiffed box. They either disappear like most of the others or have to give up the credit-to-all-users deal and will try to take post-up. Maybe they require initial $1 credit card deposits to cut into ID scams and ditch the casino. How many players are going to say, The casino is rigged, I'm not paying.?

If Dozer spoke to the owners on 3/28 then how come SBR John claims they don't know where are they located?

[durito]

If Dozer spoke to the owners on 3/28 then how come SBR John claims they don't know where are they located?

They didn't tell him?

[Cloak & Dagger]

so do we have an Over/Under on how many people have stiffed them??