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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post

    This thread has nothing to do with bonuses or rollovers

    What he was referring to was making a few plays in the casino in order to make yourself look like a square.
    Now read this post and get back to me you Nitwit :duh"


    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover. Many sportsbooks automatically profile a player as an idiot if you use a casino, so that is a plus. If you really want to stick around at a place, blow $50 in the casino.

    Another good idea... stay below half the limit bet. If they take $1k on a game, stay at $450 or less.

    Parlays... Also good. But don't do more than 3 teamers, unless there is a great promo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra Innings View Post
    Now read this post and get back to me you Nitwit :duh"

    Camoflauge and sportsbooks
    Camofluge and sportsbooks refers to attempting to hide the fact that you are a sharp player from a recreational book who is giving you good lines so that you will not get the boot. Unless "camouflage" has some secret meaning that means "Bonus" than this thread has nothing to do with bonuses and rollovers.
    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Any card counter knows you can only beat the crap out of a place as long as you are welcome. Acting the act is half the game.
    what do you sharps do when you sign up at a square book for longevity?
    Again this is the first post in the thread and here you can see that Justin refers to card counters and how they only have an edge if they are allowed to play therefore they need to disguise the fact that they are a card counter from the casino to avoid getting the boot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover. Many sportsbooks automatically profile a player as an idiot if you use a casino, so that is a plus. If you really want to stick around at a place, blow $50 in the casino.

    Another good idea... stay below half the limit bet. If they take $1k on a game, stay at $450 or less.

    Parlays... Also good. But don't do more than 3 teamers, unless there is a great promo.
    If you were sharp enough to catch this you would realize that Justin is suggesting that bonus whores are idiots along with any player dumb enough to play in the casino therefore he is suggesting in order for a sharp to pass himself off as a square maybe dumping a little bit of your winnings in the casino from time to time would help you appear square.

    Justin is a sharp sports gambler I am pretty sure he does not give a shit about bonus whoring and you guys are in the wrong thread if your worried about bonus whoring.

    I hope this is the response you were looking for you dipshit

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post


    Camoflauge and sportsbooks
    Camofluge and sportsbooks refers to attempting to hide the fact that you are a sharp player from a recreational book who is giving you good lines so that you will not get the boot. Unless "camouflage" has some secret meaning that means "Bonus" than this thread has nothing to do with bonuses and rollovers.
    Again this is the first post in the thread and here you can see that Justin refers to card counters and how they only have an edge if they are allowed to play therefore they need to disguise the fact that they are a card counter from the casino to avoid getting the boot.



    If you were sharp enough to catch this you would realize that Justin is suggesting that bonus whores are idiots along with any player dumb enough to play in the casino therefore he is suggesting in order for a sharp to pass himself off as a square maybe dumping a little bit of your winnings in the casino from time to time would help you appear square.

    Justin is a sharp sports gambler I am pretty sure he does not give a shit about bonus whoring and you guys are in the wrong thread if your worried about bonus whoring.

    I hope this is the response you were looking for you dipshit
    "Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover." My response was "didn't know you could use the casino to meet a rollover". Clear as day and night and you call yourself Sharp...more like an arrogant Prick who is unwillingly to see the light of day

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    I wouldn't call them idiots. Bonus whores are just reaching for the lowest-hanging fruit. You can make a lot more, once you figure out how to reach a bit higher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra Innings View Post
    "Some bonus whores will use the casino to meet rollover." My response was "didn't know you could use the casino to meet a rollover". Clear as day and night and you call yourself Sharp...more like an arrogant Prick who is unwillingly to see the light of day
    Moreover, there is nothing in his statement suggesting that Justin7 thinks bonus whores are "idiots". If engaging in a +EV strategy to gambling makes me or anyone else an idiot than you probably don't have too many people in your Sharpie Club....at least anyone who makes money.

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    Forum practically unusable at gametime

    sorry i thought i was creating a thread here, forum crashed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I wouldn't call them idiots. Bonus whores are just reaching for the lowest-hanging fruit. You can make a lot more, once you figure out how to reach a bit higher.
    Some people have short arms and there is nothing they can do about that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Extra Innings View Post
    Moreover, there is nothing in his statement suggesting that Justin7 thinks bonus whores are "idiots". If engaging in a +EV strategy to gambling makes me or anyone else an idiot than you probably don't have too many people in your Sharpie Club....at least anyone who makes money.
    I agree that even the sharpest of gamblers should be willing to score a bonus wherever they can hell I even use my betpoints as an extension of my bankroll even with a $100,000 bankroll $50 bucks is money on the table. I was referring to in the eyes of a sportsbook anybody who is playing roulette in the casino is likely not an educated gambler (I guess idiot was a little harsh but I was responding to an attack towards me and was a little on edge).

    I simply pointed out that this thread was not about bonus whoring and it was uncalled for to come back with drunken 2:30 a.m. name calling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sharpcat View Post

    I agree that even the sharpest of gamblers should be willing to score a bonus wherever they can hell I even use my betpoints as an extension of my bankroll even with a $100,000 bankroll $50 bucks is money on the table. I was referring to in the eyes of a sportsbook anybody who is playing roulette in the casino is likely not an educated gambler (I guess idiot was a little harsh but I was responding to an attack towards me and was a little on edge).

    I simply pointed out that this thread was not about bonus whoring and it was uncalled for to come back with drunken 2:30 a.m. name calling.
    It's all in good fun....just watch your emoticon's when your drinking if you could....

    Good Luck today with your plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by rake922 View Post
    Justin7, do books only cut you off if you request the withdrawl?


    What if you're up 35k in a month, but never attempt a withdrawl?
    Hi all, new member here. My search for information about sports betting brought me a lot of times to this site, cool site and I think Justin is doing a great job.

    Somehow the post I quoted never got answered and I am very curious how the books operate. And in addition to the original question I am curious when they start to review your betting patterns. Somebody knows the answer?
    Last edited by Mahowny82; 10-04-10 at 10:59 AM.

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    Some review during a withdrawal. Others use a weekly player win/loss statement, and review any player that has a high total win/loss, or a high weekly win/loss. Others will look all big bets, and any player consistently making good bets will get cut. And some use a combination of these.

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    Any else curious why the books don't seem to share data on players much in the way
    Vegas casinos all subscribe to the same service trying to catch counters and cheats?

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    No need to camouflage if you're dealing with exchanges. (Matchbook, Betfair)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justin7 View Post
    I wouldn't call them idiots. Bonus whores are just reaching for the lowest-hanging fruit. You can make a lot more, once you figure out how to reach a bit higher.
    Just ordered your book in the SBR store Justin. I want to reach for the sky.

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    wow great thread!

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    Hey Justin
    Any chance your book will be available as an audio book?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mathdotcom View Post
    Some people have short arms and there is nothing they can do about that.
    J7 is selling an arm-extending product.

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    Thanks, going to add a couple of these ideas to my arsenal.


    MATTY is correct, bonus whoring is still very profitable, and although its the lowest fruit on the tree, it sure is tasty.


    Matchbook is hoping with great numbers these days, long live MATCHBOOK

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    some books making parlays to get over the limit or distract from heavy action on a side may help, even parlay a straight bet with a -5000 ML so it does not go in as a straight wager for a dime. Throwing in correlated parlays may have some books slower to limit you than picking straight winners but depends.

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    I unintentionally add camoflauge to my play by being a square in general

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    lots of good stuff in this thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrongturn View Post

    J7 is selling an arm-extending product.
    Heh, he should try selling step-stools instead

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    1. PLAY IN CASINO

    2. Move from book to book, giving a shop time to catch their breath

    3. Have girlfriend make wagers

    4. Be kind and polite on chat, emails, and phone

    5. Speak good about them on forums

    6. Tip the clerks

    7. In some cases, try to lose by scalping/middling

    8. Don't get greedy

    9. Do not request payout for at least 30 days after making deposit

    10. Refer sqaure friends to the sportsbook



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    Sbr will you please delete this thread I am afraid it will affect my income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by donjuan View Post
    5 Dimes.
    What happen to this f u c k ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    1. PLAY IN CASINO

    2. Move from book to book, giving a shop time to catch their breath

    3. Have girlfriend make wagers

    4. Be kind and polite on chat, emails, and phone

    5. Speak good about them on forums

    6. Tip the clerks

    7. In some cases, try to lose by scalping/middling

    8. Don't get greedy

    9. Do not request payout for at least 30 days after making deposit

    10. Refer sqaure friends to the sportsbook

    A remarkably high-quality post. 1 out of 188,567 ain't bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    What happen to this f u c k ?
    Retired to Vermont to raise llamas and dance like no one is watching.

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    I wish it could be the case

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    How can books catch Arbers and why are they booted? To me, it seems like that each independent book is taking your one fair bet......Can someone help me out here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    What happen to this f u c k ?
    was thinking the same thing when I saw his post...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chrisharvard01 View Post
    was thinking the same thing when I saw his post...
    What were you thinking about this when you first saw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by affest View Post
    What were you thinking about this when you first saw?
    Sorry pal, guess you didn't read the whole thread

    like beat the jerk said, what happened to this f_uck?


    That f_uck we are speaking of is Don Juan. He offended a lot of people with his remarks (not me) from everything from politics to race, to whatever the f_uck you can think of.

    He seemed to know his shit. Esp. s_hit plays that aren't so much translated in the US. I think he is abroad. The guy didn't have a whole lot of positive s_hit to say but if he tried maybe he could make a contribution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LegitBet View Post
    Any else curious why the books don't seem to share data on players much in the way Vegas casinos all subscribe to the same service trying to catch counters and cheats?
    why would a book that invests the time and money in good control systems front the costs for the many that do not?

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    bet a couple of parlays and you will be fine

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    Lol wtf?

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