[MonkeyF0cker]

and why were you betting there? is there something special about that place that i have never heard of?

Barbary Coast is now Bill's Gambling Hall & Saloon and is now owned by Harrah's. Whatever his reasons may have been, they are no longer relevant.

[Fishhead]

and why were you betting there? is there something special about that place that i have never heard of?

Because they were one of the few places in town at the time that time a sizable wager on hockey totals.

[RickySteve]

How can I apply to be someones beard?

<--- Now accepting CVs. Your tag line makes me dubious of your prospects however.

[pedro803]

is it true that some of the vegas books take telephone or online bets if you are in Nevada? Anybody do this? And how has it impacted being limited?

[RickySteve]

is it true that some of the vegas books take telephone or online bets if you are in Nevada? Anybody do this? And how has it impacted being limited?

Limits are tiny, not for serious players.

[jjgold]

You can wear disguises and probably work around it for a while but eventually they will nab you

Vegas is not for the serious player

[mathdotcom]

Forum warzzz!!!!!!!!

[HoulihansTX]

If you are a sharp bettor that lives in Vegas being 86, or limited should not be a concern.

All you have to do is utilize the multiple outs that Vegas provides. You may not get the best lines everytime, but it will save you the hassle of being 86'ed by some square book like the Coast casinos, or Station casinos. And the Station casinos doesnt waste time kicking out winners.

Oh yeah and to the poster above that said Fezzik wears a disguse to avoid being noticed by casinos, I disagree. If he wears a disguise, its to avoid being robbed due to his nerd celebrity status. Besides he has runners.

The best way to avoid being 86'ed, or limited is stay away from players cards.

[Climate]

First of all, Vegas sportsbooks will:

1.Limit the shit out of you on occasion.
2.Refuse your action.
3.Barr you completely

Most Vegas books wait for offshore and/or copy Hilton lines.

However, you can still get your bets down if you know what you are doing, especially if you can get along good with the management. Some can do this, not sure how. Beards are essential, but you have to be trustworthy, and that takes time and references is my guess. How are you going to let someone run around with $30,000 cash if you have a lot of confidence in them?

[Makeit77]

I dont think Vegas would do that.. but who knows.. with the online gaming I can tell you they do that if you are constantly winning.. I think is bull&*#& but that's what they do. I've never heard of a $1 limit but I know they can give you a $500 limit or so.

[RickySteve]

Vegas is not for the serious player

If you're parroting what I said in the previous post, maybe you should notice I was referring to phone/internet accounts in Las Vegas.

If you're making that a blanket statement, then elohel, resident moron doing what he do.

[scott235]

...but when you place a bet in vegas, you post up cash, and they issue tickets, you throw away the losers and turn in the winners, right?

no i.d. or bullshit required.

my question is-how long can you hold on to a winning ticket before cashing it in?

[RickySteve]

...but when you place a bet in vegas, you post up cash, and they issue tickets, you throw away the losers and turn in the winners, right?

no i.d. or bullshit required.

my question is-how long can you hold on to a winning ticket before cashing it in?

Officially, 30-90 days depending on the property.

For practical purposes, there is no expiration. They will honor any winning tickets because it's the right thing to do (haha right) but mostly they don't want to piss people off and generate bad press.

[brooks85]

since I have all you vegas pros here and I have never got a solid answer on this, let me hear it.

What kind of limits are there for MMA bets at the major books in vegas?

I dont know if they even offer MMA lines.

[RickySteve]

$500 is kind of the de facto limit on anything "exotic" so as a general rule that's what you could expect.

Stations does not accept UFC wagers due to conflict of interest.

[kmarinouofm]

u can usually get at least 1k on anything on the board at a major book in vegas bro.. I got 2500 down on the brock lessnar fight last month at the venetian no problem..

[RickySteve]

u can usually get at least 1k on anything on the board at a major book in vegas bro..

Um, no. It can be hard to get more than $500 on a f'ing MLB total at half the places in town. Of course you can ask for any amount on any bet and you will often be approved based on many factors, such as:

• Do they know you?
• What do you look like?
• Is it a good number?
• What is the book's position?
• Are you a hotel guest?
• Do you have pit/machine rating?
• Did the manager have oatmeal or a Pop-Tart for breakfast?
• Is Jupiter aligned with Saturn?

[HoulihansTX]

...but when you place a bet in vegas, you post up cash, and they issue tickets, you throw away the losers and turn in the winners, right? no i.d. or bullshit required. my question is-how long can you hold on to a winning ticket before cashing it in?

If you are playing for a large amount, or the limit the book will make you use a players card. Its a form of I.D., and is used to track your bets.

[ok now what]

I think they give free promotions out if you make a wager on hockey of $6 or greater.

Ok, I couldn't resist.

[skrtelfan]

No idea where this "Greek doesn't cut limits for anybody" idea came from but it's definitely untrue. And when Fezzik was tracked last year against a very loose line standard, often using lines that had already moved, he still hit only 48% or so.

[CollegePro]

Officially, 30-90 days depending on the property.

For practical purposes, there is no expiration. They will honor any winning tickets because it's the right thing to do (haha right) but mostly they don't want to piss people off and generate bad press.

i am in vegas right now... and every single sportsbooks I went to have 120 days before tickets get void.

[Grits n' Gravy]

yes they will lower your limits or refuse your action.

when red rock first opened i hit them for 2 max bets on some middles. nothing big, but they refused anymore fb action from me. not a big deal. can have anyone go place wager for me if they were ever to have a good number on board.

not allowed to play anything at venetian/palazzo due to having a good run in cfb a few years back.

vegas books are run by corporate bean counters, not oddsmakers anymore. very few will take much action. the m and wynn and some of the downtown properties will, but they are not many gambling books left.

[9XL]

i am in vegas right now... and every single sportsbooks I went to have 120 days before tickets get void.

I have winning tickets from the Venetian on the World Cup that will be past their 60 day limit by the time I cash them. The sportsbook manager assured me they would still be honored, even after the void date.

[bswagos]

I have winning tickets from the Venetian on the World Cup that will be past their 60 day limit by the time I cash them. The sportsbook manager assured me they would still be honored, even after the void date.

I am sure they will honor them but when I read that I shudder because all they have to do if they don't want to pay is point to what is written not what was said.

[Ian]

Stations doesn't limit you. They 86 you.

Stations will limit people also. They're kind of funny about it because they don't care if the bettor is sharp or not, only if the bettor wins. I used to play a lot of poker with this total degen who owns a major car dealership in Vegas. He bets low to mid 5 figures on NFL games. The guy is a total square, but Stations severely limited him he went on a hot streak for only 6 or 7 weeks. He took his action to the strip and promptly lost all his winnings to Harrah's owned books.

do they still have big elvis there?

Big Elvis is still there, but he "only" weighs about 400 pounds now.

is it true that some of the vegas books take telephone or online bets if you are in Nevada? Anybody do this? And how has it impacted being limited?

Stations has online sports betting for Nevada residents. I don't know of anyone being limited online, but that doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

[RickySteve]

i am in vegas right now... and every single sportsbooks I went to have 120 days before tickets get void.

You're right, 120 days is most common. Leroy's and Jerry's are 30 days. South Point is 60. Cal-Neva has no stated limit on the new system. Not sure about M, Venetian, Strat or TI. Everyone else is 120 days.

[mrmarket]

Great thread.

[RickySteve]

Stations will limit people also. They're kind of funny about it because they don't care if the bettor is sharp or not, only if the bettor wins. I used to play a lot of poker with this total degen who owns a major car dealership in Vegas. He bets low to mid 5 figures on NFL games. The guy is a total square, but Stations severely limited him he went on a hot streak for only 6 or 7 weeks. He took his action to the strip and promptly lost all his winnings to Harrah's owned books.

This makes sense if they "limited" him to the default amounts posted and stopped approving higher action. That happens all the time. What monkey is saying and is 100% accurate is that they don't cut anyone below those standard limits unless it's to $0.

Harrah's is scared sh tless of action. I find it pretty hard to believe that guy was betting $50K there, even on the NFL. Ask Justin7 if they will take $50K on the Super Bowl, let alone regular season.

[Dirty Sanchez]

Anyone who says that the Barbary Coast was ever relevant in Vegas Sportsbook circles knows nothing about Vegas...yeah and Leroy's is a major player as well They take all of the winos, bums, and pimps wagers in town.

[MonkeyF0cker]

Anyone who says that the Barbary Coast was ever relevant in Vegas Sportsbook circles knows nothing about Vegas...yeah and Leroy's is a major player as well They take all of the winos, bums, and pimps wagers in town.

Uhh... What's wrong with Leroy's exactly?

[chrisharvard01]

Anyone who says that the Barbary Coast was ever relevant in Vegas Sportsbook circles knows nothing about Vegas...yeah and Leroy's is a major player as well They take all of the winos, bums, and pimps wagers in town.

watch out, pro here!

wtf does relevant in the sportsbook circle even mean?




I get on vegas insider, check lines across town, and TAKE THEIR MONEY.


and yeah, ill take a $2 hotdog and a handful of free well drink coupons.

[Ian]

Harrah's is scared sh tless of action. I find it pretty hard to believe that guy was betting $50K there, even on the NFL. Ask Justin7 if they will take $50K on the Super Bowl, let alone regular season.

It's possible the guy lied to me... he is a car dealer after all, but he claimed Harrah's would take 50K bets. It's also possible they took it just for him since he's a known mini-whale and probably a diamond member.

[paw]

The M casino will take all size wagers Period on all games.

Small problem thu a couple of their ticket writers have been pinched before by the Feds and work as RATS FOR THEM. This is a 100 % Fact.

Any book in vegas if you beat then long enough will Run you out not to mention they all have limits on wagering. The days of any one person coming in laying-off 20 and 30 grand wagers are DONE.

Any sharp worth his weight in Gold plays off-shore now Period Case Closed.

And even they are not safe from bullshit ......... Q the largest player in the world got beat by an local agent from Pinnacle for 1.2 million.

Needless to say Pinny has lost his business for good.

paw

[kmarinouofm]

Um, no. It can be hard to get more than $500 on a f'ing MLB total at half the places in town. Of course you can ask for any amount on any bet and you will often be approved based on many factors, such as:

• Do they know you?
• What do you look like?
• Is it a good number?
• What is the book's position?
• Are you a hotel guest?
• Do you have pit/machine rating?
• Did the manager have oatmeal or a Pop-Tart for breakfast?
• Is Jupiter aligned with Saturn?

you are joking right? i go at least once a month. more during football season the last year..

i know you can lay a stack on mlb totals at hilton, venetian, mandalay bay, Lucky's for sure because i can remember when i did at these places.. and i am just 28 years old wearing a baseball cap and a t-shirt.. i didn't need approval any of the times..

Like i said i laid over 2k on a UFC fight..

the only time i have ever needed approval was when i laid a bet on the dolphins once for 1500 bucks and the line had just moved .5 a point and i wanted to buy the original number..

at a real vegas book you can get at least 1k down on pretty much everything.. i am sure smaller establishments might give you a hard time.. try the mandalay bay.. they have pretty high limits on everything..

[RickySteve]

The M casino will take all size wagers Period on all games.

Small problem thu a couple of their ticket writers have been pinched before by the Feds and work as RATS FOR THEM. This is a 100 % Fact.

Any book in vegas if you beat then long enough will Run you out not to mention they all have limits on wagering. The days of any one person coming in laying-off 20 and 30 grand wagers are DONE.

Any sharp worth his weight in Gold plays off-shore now Period Case Closed.

And even they are not safe from bullshit ......... Q the largest player in the world got beat by an local agent from Pinnacle for 1.2 million.

Needless to say Pinny has lost his business for good.

paw

What activity would M ticket writers be ratting out exactly? Tax evasion? Money laundering? Are informants on those crimes supposed to be a bad thing?