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    Quote Originally Posted by blueghost View Post
    dont blame bodog avoid all online casinos they are cash grabs when you are bored

    Agree but sometimes they are not as I experience is asian site

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    live casino!

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    we don't need anymore. everyone in the western world knows that they are rigged. including bodog becky. if you are tempted play for free and you will find out that you will win then so they can suck you into the real money mode.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blueghost View Post
    dont blame bodog avoid all online casinos they are cash grabs when you are bored
    Exactly.

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    Yes, this is about the 10th or more thread on this subject, however every time it appears I will inform as many people as possible. If people ask they obviously don't know. Also these casinos must be getting a ton of action, what a shame that not one of these casinos is satisfied to make a great deal of money by fair random numbers. Real capitalism tells us that if one would try they would steal most or all of the casino business. Strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarlinsFan2212 View Post
    Seriously playing Craps on here is a joke. I got my hand history back and my past 3 sessions, I couldn't believe.
    120/308 = 39% Not a bad session.
    237/1313=18% Complete BS
    37/200=18.5% BS
    The first number is the amount of rolls won, and the second is the amount of rolls. There is no way you cant tell me that when I am betting solely on the DON'T PASS BAR and Pass Bar that I would wind up with numbers like this. Especially the 2nd Session.
    Seriously, if you were to bet 1 dollar per hand, and never change your bet throughout I would have lost 1427 dollars. Fortunately I am only down around 350. But seriously its a joke. Avoid Bodog.
    Guys, I can assure you that Bodog Casino is not rigged. Bodog Casino has auditing from three separate, independent companies for their own proprietary games and another testing lab for their third-party games.

    Proprietary games -> TST, Gaming Associates, eCOGRA
    Third-party Games -> iTech Labs

    This page provides information on the certification of our casino software

    Thanks,
    Becky

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    Fine, it's obviously only rigged when they can make the most money off ya

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    Seen it a thousand times on this forum...the minute someone loses...the Casino is rigged

    Try the SBR Casino..."Where Dreams Come True"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirty Sanchez View Post
    Seen it a thousand times on this forum...the minute someone loses...the Casino is rigged

    Try the SBR Casino..."Where Dreams Come True"
    Yeah, see these threads far to often.

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    it's easy to bribe independent companies to certify something. I bet none of those independent auditors play in the bodog casino.

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    The problem people have is casino games have a high house edge for the most part. You can't expect to win without some kind of betting strategy.

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    Edge is one thing, 37 wins out of 200 rolls, that's not edge, that's robbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BodogBecky View Post
    Guys, I can assure you that Bodog Casino is not rigged. Bodog Casino has auditing from three separate, independent companies for their own proprietary games and another testing lab for their third-party games.

    Proprietary games -> TST, Gaming Associates, eCOGRA
    Third-party Games -> iTech Labs

    This page provides information on the certification of our casino software

    Thanks,
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    The Tasmanian Department of Treasury and Finance lists Gaming Associates Pty Ltd as an Internet Gaming Accredited Testing Facility:

    http://www.tenders.tas.gov.au/domino...2575AE0012F1CE

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    Until I see screen shots from verified long time SBR posters I will not believe they are legit. Maybe, we are wrong but I don't think so. Most all of us believe that regulated casinos are fine--probably. Island casinos not so much. You would think if they were legit somebody, anybody would render proof of a huge win. If I heard and saw some proof from a few respected people on this forum that would be a different story. I don't believe since this discussion started 6 years ago or longer than even one person said they hit large in one of these unregulated casinos. I could be wrong. And it is very easy for a shill or two to make false claims. I remember having this discussion with Fishead many years ago and he claimed to know legit casinos. Funny he isn't entering into the conversation.

    I personally can vouch for only one--365. And I can't even say for sure that they are still legit because my hit was many years ago but I am assuming that since they are regulated they are still fair.

    I will not play any type of substantial money at any of these suspect casinos. I like to play video poker and if you play mistake free you have a shot at a random number joint especially if the pay out figure is in the very high 90's.

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    I usually have horrid luck at Bodog but not as of late. Since Monday I have had a modest upturn at craps there. I rarely play anything else.

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    Are you telling me that an electronic device could be sabatoged in a way that it takes my money from me by cheating without my knowledge of it?

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    I don't know why you would even play casino games, especially online. Granted, I love a good craps game at the Brick and Mortar place I go to, but there's no way I would play any of that online (except, as stated before, in the sbr casino for point, as it IS where dreams come true ). I guess I don't understand the allure of casino games.

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    Never ever trust a online casino pal

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    Just bet Sports and Play Poker on Bodog, simple enough.
    Regardless of what Bodog says, the casino is 100% rigged. Im over 100,000 separate plays in the casino, and if the hand history that was sent to me wasn't so sloppy, you could probably analyze it and find patterns within the data.

    Ive lost my fair share, and Ive won a little here and there. Ive employed most strategies for most games, and multiple casino reps told me my casino hold percentage was one of the best they've seen(Nice BS line from them).

    I won very big on Bodog 2x when I was just starting out with them over a year ago, and since its been very very tough sledding. Since that time I think Ive probably seen more then enough 12s on the pass line for 10 lifetimes.

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    damn those are real bad numbers i would think they would make it closer

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    Bodog got it all back...15 coin flips in a row all loses...of course...no more bodog

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    Quote Originally Posted by mighty maron View Post
    Bodog got it all back...15 coin flips in a row all loses...of course...no more bodog
    Sorry to hear it. Just wondering though.....when your playing Craps, have you ever noticied that if the point is a 4, that 95% of the time a 3 will be rolled during the round?

    I rarely ever have the nuts to bet a 3 @ 15:1, but I think almost every time the point is 4, it is accompanied by a 3. Maybe worth a shot.

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    in my experience the slots on bodog were horrible. my money went down quicker than a $2 hoe

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    All online casinos are rigged, boss.

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    Bodog casino is NOT rigged, I have proof I won a dollar there one time. I followed that up by losing 3k dollars by losing 25 hands in a row but for a short time I was playing on house money.

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    All of the online casinos are rigged. Keep losing your money fellas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king View Post

    Not true I have done test myself and I am not just some random person who feels something is rigged or not. I have done paid research project at Cornell in the past and know what goes on a software. Many casino's take the RNG as you will win a couple but we will win a little more. That is not RNG, what RNG really should be is not to use the 50/50 but to give real random numbers out that is not programmed to win some lose some. I have never seen a real RNG casino online where it really random all these are programmed my a 48/52 win rate give or take.

    You wonder why some casino say there was a problem with the software that it allowed players to win 65% of the time and take back your winnings is because it's rigged. When they say that it's not true RNG it was programmed with a percentage. Now if I was allowed to have to access to bodog source for the casino games I can show you how it not true RNG. Becky you won't know the game is rig because you didn't programmed it or have access to it. You are told to help as a customer service and follow by the rules you are trained to do.

    his english is off.. but his info is correct

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    At least take your $ to a real casino. You'll lose either way, but it goes slower and is much more fun.

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    Quote Originally Posted by king View Post
    I have never seen a real RNG casino online where it really random all these are programmed my a 48/52 win rate give or take.
    ...

    Now if I was allowed to have to access to bodog source for the casino games I can show you how it not true RNG.
    If you don't have access to anyone's RNG software then how can you be so sure that they're not producing truly random numbers? Are you just using your intuition to gauge when it feels like you're losing more than you should be? Flipping a coin 100 times and getting a 48/52 heads/tails result hardly means the coin is rigged, as I'm sure you know.

    I don't think there are any conspiracies going on at reputable shops like Bodog. Some of you guys are talking as if you expect to be winning 50% of your blackjack hands or something. In that sense, you guys are right about every casino everywhere being rigged- the very rules of the games are rigged to give the house an advantage. That's the rational explanation for why you end up losing money in the long-run playing casino games, but apparently it's easy to interpret uneven odds as rigged cards and dice.

    (I know I'm going to get a bunch of personal anecdotes about how I'm wrong because somebody once lost 20 hands in a row. All I've got to say about that is: if you don't think that losing streaks exist in the real world, or you're unable to handle them without accusing people of cheating you, then maybe you shouldn't be gambling.)

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    If they are not regulated by a legit gov, they are more than likely "rigged". It's an advandage that online casinos take. It's all about capturing the money and when you have your own software it becomes very easy. Think about it. If it CAN be rigged, you should asume it IS. These guys are not in the business of giving away money.

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    Why are these threads always made? Of course, not only do they have the house edge, but also the software edge.

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    i won 500 playing craps at oddsmaker.com overall they seem fair. in blackjack im up around 100 after a couple thousand hands. I understand why people think its rigged but they make so much money even if its real, so why cheat people risking loosing business.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimneyfish View Post
    If you don't have access to anyone's RNG software then how can you be so sure that they're not producing truly random numbers? Are you just using your intuition to gauge when it feels like you're losing more than you should be? Flipping a coin 100 times and getting a 48/52 heads/tails result hardly means the coin is rigged, as I'm sure you know.

    I don't think there are any conspiracies going on at reputable shops like Bodog. Some of you guys are talking as if you expect to be winning 50% of your blackjack hands or something. In that sense, you guys are right about every casino everywhere being rigged- the very rules of the games are rigged to give the house an advantage. That's the rational explanation for why you end up losing money in the long-run playing casino games, but apparently it's easy to interpret uneven odds as rigged cards and dice.




    (I know I'm going to get a bunch of personal anecdotes about how I'm wrong because somebody once lost 20 hands in a row. All I've got to say about that is: if you don't think that losing streaks exist in the real world, or you're unable to handle them without accusing people of cheating you, then maybe you shouldn't be gambling.)

    Yes, we all know these things. However, how about some more circumstantial evidence. How many people that you trust on this forum have told you stories of huge payouts at these unregulated casinos? I know not one. You would think that somebody would claim a huge payout at one of these casinos. Like I said dozens of times, I have won large at regulated not even a sniff at unregulated.
    Circumstantial yes, of course. But, if I had to bet my life one way or the other I would bet they are fixed. Very easy to do.

    I have been monitoring these same type questions for years and I have yet to hear from a trusted member of any huge hit. That's more than odd, don't you think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chimneyfish View Post
    If you don't have access to anyone's RNG software then how can you be so sure that they're not producing truly random numbers? Are you just using your intuition to gauge when it feels like you're losing more than you should be? Flipping a coin 100 times and getting a 48/52 heads/tails result hardly means the coin is rigged, as I'm sure you know.

    I don't think there are any conspiracies going on at reputable shops like Bodog. Some of you guys are talking as if you expect to be winning 50% of your blackjack hands or something. In that sense, you guys are right about every casino everywhere being rigged- the very rules of the games are rigged to give the house an advantage. That's the rational explanation for why you end up losing money in the long-run playing casino games, but apparently it's easy to interpret uneven odds as rigged cards and dice.

    (I know I'm going to get a bunch of personal anecdotes about how I'm wrong because somebody once lost 20 hands in a row. All I've got to say about that is: if you don't think that losing streaks exist in the real world, or you're unable to handle them without accusing people of cheating you, then maybe you shouldn't be gambling.)
    I agree with this....I've lost my fairshare in bodogs casino, but I blame that on myself

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