[flyingillini]

thats a nice offer illini, i appreciate the thought very much (probably not the best idea but i certainly am not strong enough to pass up free money)

Just let me know and I will get it going for you. I do know a few people on here that will be good for 20 or so but they will choose not to say so. They will be behind the scenes. If you want the account, within a few days we can get it up and running for you. You need to be in the game guey!

[THE PROFIT]

OMG, my advice may not be shit, but don't go to those damn meetings. All that crap is so depressing & just makes it worse.
I had to take a drug & alcohol class because of a DUI. They fukin talk about drugs so damn much & all these lifeless boring ex-addicts talking about it. They are so lifeless & the only time a glimmer of light comes in their dead eyes is when they are talking about the feeling when they were using. Fuk, it's terrible. I had to stop & get an 8ball on the way home after being subjected to these fuks.

[sickler]

No mas!

[mtneer1212]

Take the summer off..... build up a bankroll for football. Do a self-exclusion on the online poker site, you will be amazed on how fresh you feel after the break. You will never quit gambling, but sometimes you need to back away to get a perspective on things.

[Extra Innings]

MMM. Picture this hyna is stockings and a garter belt! Extra, I fantasize about Sarah Palin, Janet Reno, Barbara Boxer and Barbara Bush all wearing stockings and garter belts surrounding my bed as I release.

[mtneer1212]

And flyingillini is good people....... he probably has some wisdom (and some spanish blessings) to pass your way.....

[wtf]

the big question for me is

if you were making 19 an hour or 29 an hour would you bet more?

you must make it for fun, or your doomed

[THE PROFIT]

On my 18th birthday I deposited $300 into a poker room. I got it up to $2k and then lost it. Shortly there after, $200 more. Then $300 more. Then some in a sportsbook, etc. Over the course of about 5 months I ended up losing about $4k. The best thing that could ever happen to me happened. My parents saw fishy transactions on my bank statement and they did some research and eventually found out what I was into. I stopped. It felt great.

My problem was never a lack of ability to pick, or to play poker. I can summarize my problem into 2 things:
1) I didn't feel that the amount I was playing with was significant. Doubling your funds over the course of a year is an AMAZING investment, but how many people do you think deposit $100 and would be happy to turn that into just $200 over the course of a year? People want to play for something that they feel has meaning.
2) I was afraid to lose. It's not possible to make a sound investment when you are emotionally unstable.

After stopping, I ended up getting a degree, nice job, etc. About two years ago I deposited $5k into a sportsbook. That $5k is now $15k. It's also never been below $4k and never above $17k. I would argue that my ability to pick hasn't gotten any better.

The differences?
1) I don't play poker. I recognize that I don't have the ability to keep the level of calmness that is necessary, so I just don't do it.
2) I recognize the earning potential of the dollar. Even though $5k isn't much to some people, I recognize that by doubling it every year it will skyrocket.
3) If I were to lose my entire bankroll tomorrow my financial situation would not be hurt at all. I think this is the most important one.
4) I do it for fun. I hope that I make money, but that is not the main purpose. As such, if I were to blow $5k over the course of 3 or 4 years I would consider that a pretty good investment for the amount of fun it brought me.

Hopefully you'll do the right thing.

This is probably the most true thing I've ever read here

[OmgUrMom]

Grind it out, that is very inspirational. I do not think i can do not it though, i am too emotionally unstable. If I lose a couple big bets in a row (pots or sports bets) i feel like i have to get back to even. Now understand i know this is illogical and TERRIBLE strategy yet i can't help the feeling i have. It's like i can't control it even though i know i should be able to do.

[flyingillini]

And flyingillini is good people....... he probably has some wisdom (and some spanish blessings) to pass your way.....

Te deseamos lo mejor. En toda la realidad, espero que consigas tu vida enderezó. De cualquier manera me pueden ayudar, házmelo saber. He pasado por muchas cosas en mi vida. Tómese su tiempo libre y volver con más fuerza que nunca! Buena suerte ESE.

[OmgUrMom]

the big question for me is

if you were making 19 an hour or 29 an hour would you bet more?

you must make it for fun, or your doomed

yes i am almost certain i would. I have cleaned out my entire bank account/gone into debt more than once now. My bank account is close to 0 right now but i at least have not tried to borrow yet and hope i can keep myself from doing that.

[minet123]

If you don't mind divulging, in what ways where you able to relate with the addicts at NA?

because it's not about what you did but WHERE YOU ENDED UP
just because you didn't end up in the gutter this time doesn't mean you wont
Listen
Be Honest
The only requirement to be a member is a DESIRE to stop
and remember it has nothing to do with god
it's about a power greater than yourself..

[Grind-It-Out]

Oops.. double posted... edited.

[flyingillini]

the big question for me is

if you were making 19 an hour or 29 an hour would you bet more?

you must make it for fun, or your doomed

I have always bet for fun and never in my life risked money where if I lost it would make a difference in my life. I am a very small bettor but have the ability to bet a lot of money but it doesn't interest me one bit to bet large. I would rather invest my money in property and other investments. I do always need to be in the game, I bet 365 days a year and never take time off. I can't imagine betting with money where it made a difference in my life if I lost...

[stealthyburrito]

Grind it out, that is very inspirational. I do not think i can do not it though, i am too emotionally unstable. If I lose a couple big bets in a row (pots or sports bets) i feel like i have to get back to even. Now understand i know this is illogical and TERRIBLE strategy yet i can't help the feeling i have. It's like i can't control it even though i know i should be able to do.

maybe if you got your emotional problems squared away you could better control your gambling impulses.

ever tried that route?

[OmgUrMom]

Just let me know and I will get it going for you. I do know a few people on here that will be good for 20 or so but they will choose not to say so. They will be behind the scenes. If you want the account, within a few days we can get it up and running for you. You need to be in the game guey!

like i said i won't turn a freeroll down. so if you are sure you want to donate to a gambling degenerate like myself i would appreciate it.

[OmgUrMom]

maybe if you got you're emotional problems squared away you could better control your gambling impulses.

ever tried that route?

i'm not sure where to start as far as emotional issues go, i have always had trouble relating to most people but its a hard thing to fix....

[minet123]

Get the AA Big Book, read it cover to cover, then start over again. Its a manual to living a different life

Yes
BUT
If you do it with out a sponsor you are asking for trouble

[Grind-It-Out]

Grind it out, that is very inspirational. I do not think i can do not it though, i am too emotionally unstable. If I lose a couple big bets in a row (pots or sports bets) i feel like i have to get back to even. Now understand i know this is illogical and TERRIBLE strategy yet i can't help the feeling i have. It's like i can't control it even though i know i should be able to do.

The key is to get to the point where your "big bets" aren't big in comparison to your bankroll.

If you have a $1,000 bankroll you should be making $10 - $30 bets max. If you lose a $10 bet, who cares?

[wtf]

great thread and good post by grind it out and illini

OMG, your a good poster hate to see you leave

you must learn to control those "tilt" urges

[OmgUrMom]

because it's not about what you did but WHERE YOU ENDED UP
just because you didn't end up in the gutter this time doesn't mean you wont
Listen
Be Honest
The only requirement to be a member is a DESIRE to stop
and remember it has nothing to do with god
it's about a power greater than yourself..

if you had that desire to stop how did you return to gambling?

Since you gamble with a purpose now and bankroll management, that does make it different i would agree.

Have you had any slip ups?

[flyingillini]

like i said i won't turn a freeroll down. so if you are sure you want to donate to a gambling degenerate like myself i would appreciate it.

Ok, I will be contacting my fellow SBR carnal's.... Like I said, if we can get it up to $300.00 I will put it in an account for you at the book of your choice. I am donating $50.00 but we need 250 more.

[stealthyburrito]

i'm not sure where to start as far as emotional issues go, i have always had trouble relating to most people but its a hard thing to fix....

you need a professional, no shame in it. you may get over your problems but they can teach you to control and cope with your issues. i've seen psychotherapy work miracles on some of my friends, only problem though is you gotta have the money to get the treatment

it's a vicious cycle bro.

[Brock Landers]

Ok, I will be contacting my fellow SBR carnal's.... Like I said, if we can get it up to $300.00 I will put it in an account for you at the book of your choice. I am donating $50.00 but we need 250 more.

you tried to hook me up months back and it didn't happen.

[flyingillini]

you tried to hook me up months back and it didn't happen.

Brock, I would donate money to a fund for you if others helped out. You sent me an email and wanted a loan or gift of $500.00. Not going to happen. I will donate 50 to the kids cause though if we can get 250 more the account will be open.

[Grind-It-Out]

I believe its more than likely no god exists, i of course admit i have no idea but that is just my feeling on the subject. Thank you for the encouragement MrMarket and others who have posted in this thread

And you immediately have more of my respect than 90% of the people in this country.

[OmgUrMom]

The key is to get to the point where your "big bets" aren't big in comparison to your bankroll.

If you have a $1,000 bankroll you should be making $10 - $30 bets max. If you lose a $10 bet, who cares?

i know i shouldn't care, this is no joke though, i at one point had a bankroll over $10,000 on pokerstars and i started off playing a 5/10 limit session, after chasing my losses from that session all day my account was drained to zero. i went from a $200 loss (only 2% OF MY BANKROLL, 2% of my bankroll should not of bothered me that much) to losing an entire account worth more than ten grand. On top of that i had a 5k check on the way, i emailed stars and told them to cancel it and fund my account. I had it the next day and I lost all 5k within 2 hours at 100/200 limit.

I still have the voided 5k check, would of been the biggest check i had ever cashed, if only i had cashed it.

[THE PROFIT]

I think everyone here is smart enough to not be exchanging currency with one another, at least I hope so. Points will get cash plays

[samdapatriotsfan]

OMG, I used to play the same way as you.........and could not win to save my life. Just try to discipline yourself to stay away from parlays and don't bet if the juice is not good.

GL and I hope some time will help you get back in the black and out of the red!!

[Extra Innings]

I think everyone here is smart enough to not be exchanging currency with one another, at least I hope so. Points will get cash plays

Bunch on nonsense...points if anything but my days of buying alcoholics a pint of Smirnoff are over

[minet123]

if you had that desire to stop how did you return to gambling?

Since you gamble with a purpose now and bankroll management, that does make it different i would agree.

Have you had any slip ups?

#12) Having had a spiritual awakening as a result of these steps we tried to carry the message and practice these principles in all are affairs

If you get to that step you will have your own awakening and you will stay or leave but you will have learned a new way to live
trust me they won't tell you what i do is in anyway correct way to work the program
you will have to find you own path

[OmgUrMom]

Ok, I will be contacting my fellow SBR carnal's.... Like I said, if we can get it up to $300.00 I will put it in an account for you at the book of your choice. I am donating $50.00 but we need 250 more.

thanks illini

sampatriotfan, how did you turn it around? Are you a winning gambler now?

[THE PROFIT]

Bunch on nonsense...points if anything but my days of buying alcoholics a pint of Smirnoff are over

If the Tony-Paco Bobby-Sammy shit has taught you anything it is dont trust any of these fuks

[Grind-It-Out]

i know i shouldn't care, this is no joke though, i at one point had a bankroll over $10,000 on pokerstars and i started off playing a 5/10 limit session, after chasing my losses from that session all day my account was drained to zero. i went from a $200 loss (only 2% OF MY BANKROLL, 2% of my bankroll should not of bothered me that much) to losing an entire account worth more than ten grand. On top of that i had a 5k check on the way, i emailed stars and told them to cancel it and fund my account. I had it the next day and I lost all 5k within 2 hours at 100/200 limit.

I still have the voided 5k check, would of been the biggest check i had ever cashed, if only i had cashed it.

If I could force advice upon you, it would be to never gamble again. Because I feel that that is very unlikely however, I'll give you the following advice:

Study the Kelly Criterion and learn it and understand it to a freaking tee. I don't recommend that you apply it verbatim, but you need to know it. Once you know every last drop of it, you will have a completely new view of gambling. You will hopefully no longer have the urge to make ridiculously large bets, to chase, etc.

[SportsAddict]

OMG this is horrible to read. Im sad for your situation and hope you find it in you to fix it before it breaks you. I can definitely sympathize with your situation and can see myself there in a parallel universe. Anything in excess is a bad thing with any aspect of life. You should just close out your ************, get prepaid accounts and put someone like a wife or parent in charge of your finances with your supervision. Im not the religious type but ill pray for you man, your post is one of the saddest and most honest things Ive ever come across. BEST OF LUCK OMG!