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    Not this shit again

    Dice control

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    I've seen it tons of times during live play but I still have a hard time rationalizing how dice control can exist. Other than sliding or something like that, it just seems like it's impossible to replicate exactly your throw every time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AOSpades View Post

    it just seems like it's impossible to replicate exactly your throw every time.

    It is Impossible when the crew makes the shooter throw a 'Legal Vegas Rules' throw

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    All you do is wait for the roller to win 8 rolls in a row
    Because there will be room at the table? If a guy makes 3 points in a throw in a half-empty casino the table will fill up. But 8? Forget about it. You have to be already playing - and if you are, you already made so much that there's no time for half-a$s craps theory.

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    8 passes , 18 or 80

    Changes nothing

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    easy

    load up on the Jerkins

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    wow

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    Quote Originally Posted by pico View Post
    craps is beatable, but you need to learn how to throw. takes a lot of practice. my friend practiced for 3 months, still couldn't do it right.
    yup... it can be done.. but need perfection for that.. which will come gradually..

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    There are only a few guys in the world that have mastered dice control and are proven winners

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    Dice control, if those dice hit the back wall and bounce of the points it's luck! the only bet where the odds are in your favor is the first roll from the pass line if you don't 7 or 11 you are in trouble, you can take 100X odds it doesn't matter the odds are still against you! If your points a 5 the odds are still 3-2 against you, take 100X odds it's still 3-2 against you! at least with the first roll the odds are 2-1 in your favor!

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    Proven where? i've been in the industry for 30 years, I have never heard of one person being banned for dice control, it doesn't work! if it's a short roll the pit boss is instructed to say hit the back wall which means bounce off of the points! black jack card counting now your talking there is a long list!

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    LOL....how many of these fools have been banned? a cheater, i mean setter tries not to hit the back wall they are warned, I see it every day, Wongs the biggest joke, he was challenged and he lost, they did a study at MIT using a robotic arm, no difference, your going to have some long rolls and of course they'll take credit for setting on them, the only ones making money are the ones writing the books and selling videos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post

    It is Impossible (to control the dice) when the crew makes the shooter throw a 'Legal Vegas Rules' throw

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    The dominator claims he beats casinos I

    No way they Wouid make it up on a video

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    Pain in the ass when a jackass takes 30 sec to 'set' the dice while playin' at a table

    Sammy is happy when the floorman tells him to 'just pick'em up and throw'em or we'll pass the dice'

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    The dominator!..LOL have you ever seen the fools video? he'll show you how to grip them, roll them but he'll never show you an actual roll where he hit's the point, he can shoot them out of his a** as long as they hit the back wall and bounce off of the points it doesn't matter. If you want a good read, pick up Scarne on dice, it was written back in the 30's, he was a magician who in this day and age would be banned at a dice table!

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    Dom is a living legend in casinos

    i hear as soon as security sees him they kick him out

    that video is a documentary they can not lie on it

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    darker , how is Dom shooting the dice without a Line Bet ?

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    Does he still play??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    darker , how is Dom shooting the dice without a Line Bet ?
    must have some angle

    he always have some trick up his sleeve


    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Does he still play??
    last i read he was banned from almost 80% of the casinos in the US

    he completely bankrupted a casino in the Cayman islands a few years ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72002 View Post
    Good advice Coach- Another trick is to sit behind a guy playing slots. If his machine is cold and he leaves, jump on in. The machine is primed to pay out.
    Love this quote! Great comparison.
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    Darker knows

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    Craps is beatable; I have trained many years on technique, and the past few years I have been able to control enough the outcome to make profit every day I play; yes EVERY DAY!

    If you would like to learn my method, please send me 995 Betpoints and I will tell you everything you need to know!
    But I warn you, it takes hard work; it will take you years, if not 100 or 200 years to master my technique.

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    I am going to try and master it

    guy must be a genius

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    45 degrees

    enuff said.....

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    Ringling Brothers was right!...LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiders72002 View Post
    How many people in the world do you think can actually do this?

    Also, there is one bet that's to the players advantage. If they are closing a table down, may times you'll see this on the boats, they may say only three more rolls. Make a "come" bet.

    Yep, when they say "last roll" you make a big bet on the come bet. Win with a 7 or 11(8 ways to roll) and lose on 2,3,or 12(4 ways to roll) and get paid even money with a 2 to 1 advantage. Any point gets the bet returned to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheCentaur View Post

    Yep, when they say "last roll" you make a big bet on the come bet. Win with a 7 or 11(8 ways to roll) and lose on 2,3,or 12(4 ways to roll) and get paid even money with a 2 to 1 advantage. Any point gets the bet returned to you.
    That makes sense. I've got a feeling the boxman would remember you if you tried this the next night though.

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    Steve Stevens is giving advice on its clients to play craps...a real bookie/casino killer right there!

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    Quote Originally Posted by curious View Post
    Yes, and if you did this while I was the shooter you would go broke. I have been playing craps for years and I have had many monster rolls. Once on a cruise ship I held the dice for 40 minutes. Another time I threw 8 sevens in a row on the passline.

    This is the most ridiculous advice I have ever heard. Dice is WAY too streaky to use a martingale with.
    Ive seen a guy roll for 40min, picked up a quick 50k, dice is a funny game

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    Quote Originally Posted by brainfreeze View Post
    Ive seen a guy roll for 40min, picked up a quick 50k, dice is a funny game
    This is the rare occurrence when you need to double press the you units wagered per roll.

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