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    Zags. GL, everyone.

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    Everyone on Zaga. Books could get killed if Zaga wins.

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    "Everyone" is not on Gonzaga.

    What you are learning here with Darkside and me is that there is a reason the line is low.

    There is also more balance than you think. You don't think bettors are taking Uconn -2?

    Don't answer, I'm really not interested, this post is for everyone else.


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    I got zags +2.5

    Not talked about mich is the zags plau their wcc in vegas, and the crowd should be pro zag.

    Not big or super confident but official play

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post


    "Everyone" is not on Gonzaga.

    What you are learning here with Darkside and me is that there is a reason the line is low.

    There is also more balance than you think. You don't think bettors are taking Uconn -2?

    Don't answer, I'm really not interested, this post is for everyone else.

    People all over the place. Plenty of zag and uconn

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    By BJ Cunningham
    Connecticut manhandled Arkansas in the Sweet 16 and now is the betting favorite to cut down the nets.

    The Huskies shot 64.7% from inside the arc and 9-of-20 from 3-point range in the win over the Razorbacks. But most importantly, they held Arkansas to just 31.9% from 2-point range and just 22 points at the rim.

    Dan Hurley’s team took away a lot of the advantages Arkansas had offensively, and UConn should be able to do the same here against Gonzaga.

    First off, the Huskies have an outstanding big man in Adama Sanogo, who will be able to guard Drew Timme and not allow him to single-handedly destroy their defense.\

    On offense, Gonzaga wants to get to rim, get out in transition and get the ball inside to Timme. Connecticut ranks ninth in the country in PPP allowed at the rim and 18th in PPP allowed in transition. It’s also above-average at defending post-up sets.

    I also don’t know how Gonzaga stops Connecticut unless the Huskies go cold from the field.


    UConn is a high-volume 3-point shooting team, ranking 66th in 3-point rate and hitting over 36% of its triples this season. Gonzaga has been terrible defending the 3-point line, allowing teams to hit 35.2% of their long-range attempts, which is 257th in the country.

    The Zags also rank 290th in Open 3 Rate Allowed.

    This is also the first time Gonzaga will face a high-volume 3-point team since it played Grand Canyon in the opening round. The Lopes went 9-of-24 from 3 in that contest.

    Connecticut is also a top-100 combined frequency team in utilizing both off-ball and on-ball screens, while Gonzaga is outside the top 250 in defending both of those.


    I think the road ends here for Gonzaga and Connecticut moves onto the Final Four.

    Pick: UConn -2 (Play to -3)


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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    People all over the place. Plenty of zag and uconn
    Exactly.

    But right now, as I type this, the market is moving towards Uconn. they are blinking on money they have been sitting on.

    If you like them, get them. They are going to 3.

    Gonza bettors get a better deal if they wait.

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    Arkansas was terrible against uconn. Awful

    As for never seen before, uconn has yet to see a high powered offense this tournament

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Exactly.

    But right now, as I type this, the market is moving towards Uconn. they are blinking on money they have been sitting on.

    If you like them, get them. They are going to 3.

    Gonza bettors get a better deal if they wait.
    Too late i took it 2.5 i couldn't wait got s to do. Maybe, I don't see any 3s yet. But yeah generally favorites more likely to go up

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    I edited the thread title to include in game discussion thread, no need for multiple threads.

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    Check that a lot of books just went to 3

    As i said couldn wait

    Not a good sign but, so be it. Can't worry about it worrying does no good

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    My boys in NJ, at Casears trying to go to 3.5.

    Now they're back to 2.5.



    Touchy market, lmao. They knew, they just wanted the action.

    Uconn could be in a good spot here.

    I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn.

    Still working it out.

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    Connecticut -3 - 103/-110 @Pinnacle

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    Yeah, 3 almost everywhere.

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    Gonza money isn't done talking here, though.

    This market could get ineteresting with the back and forth.

    They are likely to be generating money with trades across the board.

    Gonna be a big handle on this one, if they want it.

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    Zags game

    Alot of people talking about UConn compared to prior what about the Zags no way I me no way there best talented Zags I thought should had lost there last couple games TCU and UCLA both teams had starters injured at out would had been different but not Zags fought wins are wins and UCLA looked gased the last few minutes of there game not enough depth. If Zags Homgreen wow they would be killing it. Besides a young Bright star in Strasberry and Timmie which I think is one of the best ball distributor big guys in a long time I think there just ok, If huskies are hitting there shots no way this game will be close. Connecticut defense is playing the best it has been all year. The low line scares me I feel it should be 3.5 or 4 but I think it Gonzaga getting a ton of respect because of there past tourny success. Taking nothing away from Gonzaga's early November & December success, I'm betting they full short in this one. And no way one of there best player teams in the past by far.

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    Uconn ml -160

    1600/1000

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    My boys in NJ, at Casears trying to go to 3.5.

    Now they're back to 2.5.



    Touchy market, lmao. They knew, they just wanted the action.

    Uconn could be in a good spot here.

    I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn.

    Still working it out.
    Give us the final answer KVB. UConn wins and covers?

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    positive for zag imo, look at the experience factor. few and timme vs a uconn team not used to the red hot lights of the elite 8. and those lights will be hot from the tip

    the arena was not even close to being full for the uconn game. mostly ucla and zag fans there

    key could be timme foul trouble. he can have a tendency to pick up fouls and uconn is obviously a monster inside

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn.
    i wanted to go fau i couldn't do it.
    tennessie could have blown out fau they couldn't hit the side of a barn. missed shot, after shot, after shot
    vols 6-23 from 3, 21-63 overall, shot only 12 free throws even though they were the stronger team
    don't know about the health of the kansas st point guard

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    ​Gonzaga +132 vs Connecticut

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackballs View Post
    Give us the final answer KVB. UConn wins and covers?
    Been on one hell of a heater in all the Hoops Tourneys since the began.

    I am proceeding with caution. This is not an easy one.

    Trying to make the 4 pick over the next two days is even harder.

    I need more info and am working on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mackballs View Post
    Give us the final answer KVB. UConn wins and covers?
    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    ...Uconn could be in a good spot here.

    I have an early nibble FAU +2/Uconn -2.5 moneyflow two pick, but now I'm starting to think the spoiler there is FAU, not UConn....
    This is what I've decided...


    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    This is the moneyflow parlay I am working with:

    K State -1 (-112)
    Uconn -2.5 (-114)


    A similar moneyline version is good too...

    K State -120
    Uconn -155


    This is a difficult time, especially given the previous success. I can not emphasize that enough.

    The stacking percentages forecast have both FAU and Gonzaga winning on the moneyline. I feel a this creates a balance that helps Uconn advance.

    The original two pick was FAU/Uconn but there's always a spoiler. The adjustment is already made with K State.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    This is what I've decided...
    Florida Atlantic & Gonzaga Moneyline Parlay +477(Odds Boost)
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    KVB gave Darkside Magick 2 Betpoint(s) for this post.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    Florida Atlantic & Gonzaga Moneyline Parlay +477(Odds Boost)
    Like it. It's difficult to tell the path here but in the thread I've been posting these parlays I've been explaining the value of going 2-0 or 0-2.

    Any other result means we fukked up parlay construction and/or should have bet them individually.

    I also talked about using the parlay as a guide, even for LIVE trading. Can't build up the equity with a two pick as I could with a 4 or 7 pick, but the point is the same.

    I will be looking LIVE. And haven't ruled out a similar parlay to yours pre game. Numbers just not great with the movement though. That's why I'm typing now.

    2-0 and 0-2 are good. 1-1 not good.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    Florida Atlantic & Gonzaga Moneyline Parlay +477(Odds Boost)
    Off the board and didn't make a move.

    Now it's individual LIVE or one last chance to at halftime. Numbers matter and I see the inherent risk in fading the forecasts. Also might try to get both teams as dogs in game 1, but still might not trade at all if nothing gets in the range.


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    Women just got knocked off.
    Even in defeat Geno and our women are so classy.

    Geno is everything that is correct about college hoops.
    Kudos to Ohio State, they played perfect ball all game.

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    Kansas st fla atl awful game

    Fla atl turns the ball over, k st dumb play after stupid play

    Somebody has to win this shot fest

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    Kansas state absolutely blew that game

    How do you let an offensive rebound on a free throw. Why do you go for 2 down 3. Why dies the guard pass the ball to a forward down 3 with 4 seconds left. Why does the guard hold the ball and nobody moves until the guard has to move with 5 seconds on the shot clock. Why do you foul guys shooting 3. Why do you call your last timeout when the clock is stopped.

    The list of pathetic plays goes on and on for those jokers

    Up 7 these guys at k st misding free throws 1 and 1s

    12 for 18 free throws k st vs 18 for 22 fl.atl

    Had nothing on it but fock k st

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    Quote Originally Posted by budwiser View Post
    Kansas state absolutely blew that game

    How do you let an offensive rebound on a free throw. Why do you go for 2 down 3. Why dies the guard pass the ball to a forward down 3 with 4 seconds left. Why does the guard hold the ball and nobody moves until the guard has to move with 5 seconds on the shot clock. Why do you foul guys shooting 3. Why do you call your last timeout when the clock is stopped.

    The list of pathetic plays goes on and on for those jokers

    I guess it starts at the top. Coach sux
    Yup, MSU did the same the other night. Two guys passed on open 3s and they don't even get a shot off. The guard should have pulled up for 3 at 4 seconds when they didn't foul.

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    Florida Atlantic

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    Florida Atlantic
    another good call by you

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    KSU forgot how to shoot the 2H

    UConn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattle Slew View Post
    Yup, MSU did the same the other night. Two guys passed on open 3s and they don't even get a shot off. The guard should have pulled up for 3 at 4 seconds when they didn't foul.
    Yeah why is this guy who is their 3 point specialist giving up the ball to a forward standing there doing nothing but praying he doesn't get the pass

    Why dies the guard pass the ball.down low for 2 10 seconds left when they're down 3. Then they call their last timeout on a dead ball forcing them to race down full court again when they already had the ball on the scoring end down 3 with 10 seconds left. What's the point of doing that

    Stupid, stupid, stupid, very very dumb team full.of idiots

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkside Magick View Post
    Florida Atlantic



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