[OldBill]

for real without benching as saints did that year because of injuries they didnt play final 3 games of year

heres the results

Tampa Bay Curse Victims

NOTE must be a meanigfull game not like when saints were 13-0 and dumped final 3 games of season !!

*-denotes a playoff team

1976: none

1977***
13 December 11 at New Orleans Saints W 33–14 Louisiana Superdome 1–12 40,124
14 December 18 St. Louis Cardinals W 17–7 Tampa Stadium 2–12 56,922

1978: Min*, Atl*, KC, Chi, Buf 0-7 total so far

1979: Det, Baltimore Colts, GB, Chi*, Min, 0-13 now

Det, NYG, KC, LA Rams* (Rams lost Super Bowl XIV) 0-17

1980: Cin, LA Rams*, SF, NYG, GB 0-22

1981: Min, St. Louis Cardinals, Det, GB, Chi, NO, Atl 0-29

1982: NO, Buf, Det*, Chi, Mia* (Dolphins lost Super Bowl XVII) 0-34

1983: Min, Houston Oilers 0-36

1984: Det, GB, Min, NYG*, Atl, NYJ 0-42

1985: St. Louis Cardinals, Det 0-45

1986: Det, Buf 0-47

1987: Atl, Det, GB, Min* (Vikings lost NFC Championship) 0-51

1988: GB, Det, Buf* (Bills lost AFC Championship) 0-54

1989: GB, NO, Chi, Phx 0-58

1990: Det, Min, GB, Atl 0-59

1991: Phi, Ind, Det* (Lions lost NFC Championship) -0-62

1992: Phx, GB, Det, Chi 0-66

1993: Det*, Atl, Min*, Chi, Den* 0-71 3 playoff teams

1994: Ind, Det*, Min*, Was, LA Rams 0-76

1995: Phi*, Was, Car, Cin, Min, Jax, GB* (Packers lost NFC Championship) 0-82

1996: Min*, Oak, SD, NO, Was, Chi 0-88

1997: SF, Det*, Min*, Mia*, Arz, Ind, Atl, NE*, NYG*, Chi 0-97 five play off teams

1998: Chi, NYG, Car, GB*, Pit, Cin, Min* 0-104

(Vikings lost NFC Championship in OT the 15-1 Vikings)

1999: Phi, Den, Chi, NO, KC, Atl, Sea*, Min*, Det*, GB 0-114 three play off teams

2000: NE, Chi, Det, Min*, Atl, GB, Buf, Dal, Mia*, StL* 0-124 three play off teams

2001: Dal, GB*, Min, Det, Cin, NO, Bal*, StL* (Rams - 14 pts lost Super Bowl XXXVI) 0-132 four play off teams


2002: Bal, StL, Cin, Atl*, Cle*, Car, Min, GB*, Det, Chi 0-142

2003 Atl, Was, Dal*, NYG, NO, Hou, Phi* (Eagles were #1 seed in NFC, lost NFC Championship) 0-149

2004: NO, Chi, KC, SF, Atl* (Falcons lost NFC Championship) 0-154

2005: Min, Buf, GB, Det, Mia, Was*, Atl, NO, Car* 0-163

2006: Cin, Phi*, Was, Cle 0-167

2007: NO, StL, Car, Ten*, Arz, Atl, Was* 0-174

2008: Atl*, Chi, GB, Car*, Sea, KC, Min*, Det, NO 0-183

2009: Sea, GB*, NO* (NO is going to Super Bowl XLIV NOTE: Saints didn't play final 3 games of year 13-0 record they let off the pedal after winning 1st half vs Tampa bay 17-3 )N O was a 9 pt dog at Car week 17 0-185

2010 Ariz, Car,Cin., Cleve,NO,St Lou,SF Seattle,Wash, 0-191
2011 Minn,ATL*indyNO* 0-195

2012 ATL * Car,KC, Min * (ousted) Oak, S D, 0-201

*Three teams (1979 Rams, 1982 Dolphins, 2001 Rams) came close to breaking the curse, making it to the Super Bowl. But all three lost. The 2001 Rams argueably came the closest - losing to the Patriots in Super Bowl XXXVI to Adam Vinatieri's last-second game-winning field goal.

*Counting 1976-2008, the Curse has had 186 victims, including 49 playoff teams, 3 Super Bowl losers, 7 conference championship game losers,

one #1 playoff seed. Note that the number does not equal Tampa Bay's total franchise victories because many of the victims were beaten by Tampa Bay twice in the same season.


WE now have 4 teams who lost to TB that got to the Bowl and still lost last years phony Falcons


adding the 2013 -2014 2015 and 2016 results here


2013 Falcons - Bills - Lions -Dolphins 0-205


2014 *Steelers -Redskins- 0-207

2015 Falcons- Eagles-Cowboys-Jags-Saints 0-212

2016 *Falcons (lost superbowl)- Panthers-49ers-Bears. *Chiefs (lost to steelers) * Seahawks - Chargers 0-219

2017 Bears-Giants-Jets-Dolphins-Saints 0-224

2018 Saints-Eagles-Browns-49ERS-Panthers 0-229

2019 Panthers -Rams-Cardinals-Falcons -Jaguars-Colts -Lions 0-236

2020 9 teams lost T B

Panthers -Broncos-chargers -Packers*- Raiders -Giants- Falcons -Vikings -Lions 0-245




including 4 teams who got there 1 was a huge DD chalk the rams vs Pats all others were a DOG

OLD rams , Dolphins, Rams - 12 , Falcons +3 blew a 25 point lead lost by 6 in O T




including 4 teams who got there 1 was a huge DD chalk the rams vs Pats all others were a DOG

OLD rams , Dolphins, Rams - 12 , Falcons +3


to see every years results go here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...aneers_seasons







post this back up 100% system teams losing meaningful games to TB have never won a super bowl


2021 9 teams lost to TB

Panthers--Jets-BILLS*--Eagles*--Falcons-Giants---Bears-Dolphins--Cowboys*... total is now 0--254



from 1977 - 2021 omg 44 years

so add 5 more from this year 0---259 and we aint done

[habitualwinning]

So you're saying Cowboys, Saints, Falcons, Rams, Seahawks have no chance of winning SB this season then huh?

[GunShard]

Another interesting trends that can determine a team that will less likely to win the Super Bowl:

1. NFL player that wins regular season MVP will less likely win the Super Bowl. Kurt Warner's Rams was the last MVP to win Super Bowl.

2. NFL team that's #1 in passing yards or #1 in rushing yards or #1 in sacks has never won the Super Bowl. This just shows your offense is one dimensional and your defense can only sack the QB and not defend against the RB.

3. NFL team that loses the Super Bowl will less likely win the Super Bowl the season after. Tom Brady's Patriots in 2017 was the last team to do this. Before Brady, many decades of Super Bowl losers struggling to get back to the Super Bowl.

4. NFL team that loses 4 in a row during the regular season will less likely win the Super Bowl.

5. Quarterback that has entered the playoffs for the 1st time will not win the Super Bowl.

Future vision is what you see with your mind not your eyes.

[OldBill]

5. Quarterback that has entered the playoffs for the 1st time will not win the Super Bowl.
also the first time they play finals they will lose also ready heres the list Rodgers Mahommes Peyton Manning Eli Manning Big ben



and im not sure Brady was a rookie when he won the superbowl

no it was his second year with patriots they picked him in year 2000 he won the bowl in 2001 as a 12 point pup to the rams

[OldBill]

oooo also rookie HC's never won a sb in 1st year none got there all lost in season or fast exit if made playoffs

rookie hc's i mean that came in nfl from college

[StackinGreen]

Another interesting trends that can determine a team that will less likely to win the Super Bowl:

1. NFL player that wins regular season MVP will less likely win the Super Bowl. Kurt Warner's Rams was the last MVP to win Super Bowl.

2. NFL team that's #1 in passing yards or #1 in rushing yards or #1 in sacks has never won the Super Bowl. This just shows your offense is one dimensional and your defense can only sack the QB and not defend against the RB.

3. NFL team that loses the Super Bowl will less likely win the Super Bowl the season after. Tom Brady's Patriots in 2017 was the last team to do this. Before Brady, many decades of Super Bowl losers struggling to get back to the Super Bowl.

4. NFL team that loses 4 in a row during the regular season will less likely win the Super Bowl.

5. Quarterback that has entered the playoffs for the 1st time will not win the Super Bowl.

Future vision is what you see with your mind not your eyes.

Good post. Of course Dallas has the ability to do it, given that D and the complements they have on O. Will they? It's hard to do. Very hard. Plus, week 1 loss vs TB? Ha, that'd be the perfect excuse for the randomness of OldBill's mantra.

(1) above is the worst one, since the QB is by far most important in the NFL. Allen would break this IF it happens, but interestingly he has scuffled and is a little lame, so maybe that's good if you like the Bills all the way.

Cinci's got a shot but do they beat both KC and Buffalo in the playoffs? I don't see it. So the setup for (3) is spot on.

4 and 5 are likely, but not that insightful, really. They rely on fairly obvious reasoning. GB has a shot, but yes it's long at this point. Even Hurts played in the playoffs last year, so that'd be the biggest borderline young QB/first time playoffs case. Justin Herbert is the only real qualifier for this in the whole league. They probably won't make the playoffs, though.

[jjgold]

Every game comes down to turnovers

[cincinnatikid513]

rambling gibberish

[JAKEPEAVY21]

rambling gibberish

That is all OP posts a bunch of garbage nonsense

[johnnyvegas13]

This guy is like the new weeders

[pologq]

[OldBill]

another thing about Dallas so far no HC has won superbowls with 2 differnt teams

so thats another reason cowboys fail in PO's every year

and if you think this is all gibberish bs i post about teams that lost to tampa bay in season never winning a S B then you are blind to the facts of 44 years

2021 9 teams lost to TB

Panthers--Jets-BILLS*--Eagles*--Falcons-Giants---Bears-Dolphins--Cowboys*... total is now 0--254

add the 5 from this year ='s 0--259

[cincinnatikid513]

old bill related to joecool and honest abe

[OldBill]

old bill related to joecool and honest abe awwwww thanks cincinattikid your name just reminded me of movie with steve mcqueen losing to edward g robinson who pulled of str8 flush vs his aces full

[GunShard]

Chiefs vs Cowboys
Chiefs vs Eagles
Chiefs vs 49ers

I believe one of these 3 will be the super bowl matchup. Unless the Bills finally defeat the Chiefs in the playoffs. The Bengals proven to defeat the Chiefs 3 times in a row in 2022.

[OldBill]

this year everything changed and GUNSHARD Cincy strated out 0-2 and i have a 100% cover jinx the marc lawrence play book whoever he puts on the cover never wins a s/b my last loss was when R wilson on cover i lost $550 cash to local when they tossed an int in final min of 4th quarter lost by 4 points as a pickem

this years team on cover JOE BURROW of Bengals and one year long ago he put 4 college teams on cover in lil boxes all 4 lost in playoffs or not even make po's other teams that got the 100% jinx on play book cover Tom Brady LOST S/u as -4.5 chalk to Eagles BIG Ben failed in po's eli manning also failed any team on cover never won a s b or got there even it wasnt the QB like one year Chargers top RB Ladainian T was on cover boy did they stink it up that year

[OldBill]

rambling gibberish

from 1977 - 2021 omg 44 years

so add 5 more from this year 0---259 and we aint done

[JIBBBY]

rambling gibberish

Lol. ..

[DiggityDaggityDo]

Another interesting trends that can determine a team that will less likely to win the Super Bowl:

1. NFL player that wins regular season MVP will less likely win the Super Bowl. Kurt Warner's Rams was the last MVP to win Super Bowl.

2. NFL team that's #1 in passing yards or #1 in rushing yards or #1 in sacks has never won the Super Bowl. This just shows your offense is one dimensional and your defense can only sack the QB and not defend against the RB.

3. NFL team that loses the Super Bowl will less likely win the Super Bowl the season after. Tom Brady's Patriots in 2017 was the last team to do this. Before Brady, many decades of Super Bowl losers struggling to get back to the Super Bowl.

4. NFL team that loses 4 in a row during the regular season will less likely win the Super Bowl.

5. Quarterback that has entered the playoffs for the 1st time will not win the Super Bowl.

Future vision is what you see with your mind not your eyes.

Mahomes won MVP

[OldBill]

Mahomes won MVP said DDD when buddy? today the 9th

[texhooper]

Dude he won the mvp on the 9th. Thursday the 9th

[GunShard]

Mahomes won MVP

If this trend holds up. Eagles should win the super bowl especially with that defense.
But if that trend breaks, Mahomes should be the one to do it since Warner.