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    MGM Borgata AC Sued

    https://apnews.com/article/technology-lawsuits-business-atlantic-city-racketeering-c565b6996b8f937905d0320297cbcdf0

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    This used to happen all the time with online poker even live betting

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    I know there's a delay between t.v. and live action.but how do the books always know the outcome of the play before it happens on live t.v.? Do they have a different feed where there's no delay or do they have a person in the stadium of every game

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    Polker no

    Nothing comes of these suits

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    There is a strong resemblance JJ. He gambles 24 hours straight just like you.

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    How will he prove that it was the casinos glitches? Won’t they just blame his internet?

    They probably just kept giving him money to keep him happy since they knew he was just gonna blow it plus a lot more.
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    he swindled people with fraud. sounds like he is repeating his trend.

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    He lost 29 million can't really feel bad for him

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    Again can anyone answer this question. When you do live betting the line always changes before the play happens How do they know before us

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate rasta View Post
    Again can anyone answer this question. When you do live betting the line always changes before the play happens How do they know before us
    Guys are at the games

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    How do I get that job

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    another gambler who cannot accept that its impossible to win just about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate rasta View Post
    How do I get that job
    People have posted links to job ads on here in years past.

    Doesn't pay much. Game ticket plus $50 sort of deal I think.









    This dude sounds like a likely type!


    Antar is a convicted fraudster who faces the prospect of additional prison time in November for a scheme in which he cheated friends and relatives of money he used to feed his compulsive gambling habit. In the most recent case, he has pleaded guilty to theft by deception.He also is the nephew of Eddie Antar, who founded the Crazy Eddie electronics stores in the 1970s and 1980s, who defrauded investors out of more than $74 million. Eddie Antar died in 2016.
    In 2013, Sam Antar was sentenced to 21 months in federal prison for taking $225,000 in a fraudulent investment scheme.
    “I’ve been in prison once, and I’m probably facing prison again, and it all had to do with me not being able to admit to myself I was a compulsive gambler,” Antar said in an interview with The Associated Press Thursday. “When I look at what I did, I’m sick about it. A lot of people have this problem and they need help.”
    In his lawsuit, Antar claims he alerted numerous employees and officials with the gambling companies to the fact that there was a serious, recurring problem with disconnections, but that they knowingly kept malfunctioning games available to the public because they were too profitable to take down.
    He says his complaints were made to local supervisors and VIP hosts, an online complaint portal, and even to the president of the casino and the CEO of its parent company.
    He also claims the companies paid him near-daily bonuses totaling $30,000 a month to keep him playing and to entice him not to report problems with the games to the New Jersey Division of Gaming Enforcement.


    I hope if he wins the fine goes to a safe gambling fund and not to the player.

    Not good for bettors or the industry if degens can turn this into a game where they lose everything and try to claim it back later. Has made for a mess in the UK system but not tolerated in many other jurisdictions thankfully.

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    Bro idc if mgm is a sponsor here

    THEY ARE AWFUL

    they just have girls at borgata offering free plays

    then you win and they won’t pay

    draft kings @ fan duel only in jersey

    they are brutal w/ customer service

    listen I know half the borgata poker room

    it’s ridic

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    I.e.

    me and my boy get a free play sitting in Sportsbook

    first off , we spending hundreds way over the min $150 they charge on sundays

    kicked out cuz of reservation , we both had $6800 of tickets plus playing horses across the hall

    We turn the $1k into $23k on the side of our wagers

    I go up to room , party w/ some working girls

    come back down , and they have dude at promo table on a laptop

    he’s like ahh can’t realease funds so so so …

    well he keeps saying “ check back in an hour”

    4 days later , still nothing

    so I’m like fukk it “testing them”

    just bet the 23k on “so & so game”

    he’s like your in.

    SO I FREAK OUT , how can you place a wager with my funds but I can’t get them.

    and this was not a rollover situation

    anyway it loses

    5th day we check out , I flip the promo table on the way out along with his lap top

    right outside the poker room / Sportsbook entrance

    if you know the borgata you know

    fukk mgm

    and I have more stories not involving me

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    nobody wins vs a casino they have too much money

    Lawyer fees too much to fight mega giants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    I.e.

    me and my boy get a free play sitting in Sportsbook

    first off , we spending hundreds way over the min $150 they charge on sundays

    kicked out cuz of reservation , we both had $6800 of tickets plus playing horses across the hall

    We turn the $1k into $23k on the side of our wagers

    I go up to room , party w/ some working girls

    come back down , and they have dude at promo table on a laptop

    he’s like ahh can’t realease funds so so so …

    well he keeps saying “ check back in an hour”

    4 days later , still nothing

    so I’m like fukk it “testing them”

    just bet the 23k on “so & so game”

    he’s like your in.

    SO I FREAK OUT , how can you place a wager with my funds but I can’t get them.

    and this was not a rollover situation

    anyway it loses

    5th day we check out , I flip the promo table on the way out along with his lap top

    right outside the poker room / Sportsbook entrance

    if you know the borgata you know

    fukk mgm

    and I have more stories not involving me
    Sounds like the promo guy is going over board trying to keep you playing. Like some books do.

    Shame you let him take a bet with it. He'd have to pay you in the end if the terms said that no matter how much bluff he put on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    nobody wins vs a casino they have too much money

    Lawyer fees too much to fight mega giants
    That's why we need them all to agree to third party dispute resolution. Like SBR will be able to provide, for example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Sounds like the promo guy is going over board trying to keep you playing. Like some books do.

    Shame you let him take a bet with it. He'd have to pay you in the end if the terms said that no matter how much bluff he put on.
    That dude was typing and calling bosses for over 72 hours

    im telling you opty

    first off , love you bro … hope all is well

    but secondly , they have done some messed up shit

    I mean thrn you walk up to the window and they say “ we have nothing to do w/ mgm promos”

    !!!!!! wtf

    man draft kings and fan duel will let you collect asap right at their casino windows in ac and are excelllent customer service

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    That dude was typing and calling bosses for over 72 hours

    im telling you opty

    first off , love you bro … hope all is well

    but secondly , they have done some messed up shit

    I mean thrn you walk up to the window and they say “ we have nothing to do w/ mgm promos”

    !!!!!! wtf

    man draft kings and fan duel will let you collect asap right at their casino windows in ac and are excelllent customer service
    MGM let’s you collect at Borgata sportsbook too. I’ve done it multiple times.

    Those girls outside the horse book gave me a 1k free bet with a 1k deposit. I bet the 1k on a hockey game which won and the other 1k on a basketball game. Both won. They let me cash out the balance and it was available at the window when they opened the next day.
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    Not me , granted this was at the beginning

    maybe 2-3 years ago

    fukk bet mgm

    borgata is great too me tho

    comps galore

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    You think he would learned after losing the first million.haha fockin idiot.cant fix stupid,he deserved to loose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Not me , granted this was at the beginning

    maybe 2-3 years ago

    fukk bet mgm

    borgata is great too me tho

    comps galore
    Comps from casino action. NJ sportsbooks donít give you comps for sports action. Trust me.

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    Um ok , I trust you

    comps come from … w/e

    gl sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Not me , granted this was at the beginning

    maybe 2-3 years ago

    fukk bet mgm

    borgata is great too me tho

    comps galore
    Why would you think that Borgata gives you good comps? Ever since they took over fully from Boyd running the casino operation, their food comping rate went down to less than 1/2 of what it used to be; more like 1/3 if anything. Now, it's even worse.

    In Vegas, MGM gives you absolutely NOTHING and MGM owns Borgata.

    Perhaps if you didn't carry any comp balance, then you can ask for something and they will give you something but for someone like me who carries a few hundreds in comp balance asking them for anything is just a waste of time as I will get nothing.

    I played 8 hours just two days ago with the average bet of $100+ with the max bet of $2,000 a hand and I got only $33 comp dollars which translates to like 4% of the average bet size. When Boyd ran things, it was an automatic 15% of the average bet amount and I would have gotten $120 in comp dollars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    Why would you think that Borgata gives you good comps? Ever since they took over fully from Boyd running the casino operation, their food comping rate went down to less than 1/2 of what it used to be; more like 1/3 if anything. Now, it's even worse.

    In Vegas, MGM gives you absolutely NOTHING and MGM owns Borgata.

    Perhaps if you didn't carry any comp balance, then you can ask for something and they will give you something but for someone like me who carries a few hundreds in comp balance asking them for anything is just a waste of time as I will get nothing.

    I played 8 hours just two days ago with the average bet of $100+ with the max bet of $2,000 a hand and I got only $33 comp dollars which translates to like 4% of the average bet size. When Boyd ran things, it was an automatic 15% of the average bet amount and I would have gotten $120 in comp dollars.
    Agree. MGM sucks with comp dollars. Other than free rooms and tickets to shows, they don’t give much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    Why would you think that Borgata gives you good comps? Ever since they took over fully from Boyd running the casino operation, their food comping rate went down to less than 1/2 of what it used to be; more like 1/3 if anything. Now, it's even worse.

    In Vegas, MGM gives you absolutely NOTHING and MGM owns Borgata.

    Perhaps if you didn't carry any comp balance, then you can ask for something and they will give you something but for someone like me who carries a few hundreds in comp balance asking them for anything is just a waste of time as I will get nothing.

    I played 8 hours just two days ago with the average bet of $100+ with the max bet of $2,000 a hand and I got only $33 comp dollars which translates to like 4% of the average bet size. When Boyd ran things, it was an automatic 15% of the average bet amount and I would have gotten $120 in comp dollars.
    Bro I get a letter thing every week + emails for 3 free rooms a night...

    I can send pics

    wtf

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    Im not fukking talking about comp $$$

    Im talking about food/drinks/rooms

    wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    Has made for a mess in the UK system but not tolerated in many other jurisdictions thankfully.
    Gambling companies sponsor 10 of 20 Premier League teams, ads are chronic before and after games, during with signage and there’s a bookies on every high street. They made their own mess. And they lean on it when they want to limit accounts. They’re scum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louisvillekid1 View Post
    Im not fukking talking about comp $$$

    Im talking about food/drinks/rooms

    wtf
    You must be a high roller to get 3 nights a week.

    What do you play at Borgata and what's your average bet size? It has to be in hundreds to get 3 comped nights a week.

    Also, I can only guess that you lose a lot, too. But then, you bet big enough you can win a lot, too.

    Don't you have to use your comp dollars for food and drinks?

    Or, does your host comp all your expenses? It's probably this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DJK View Post
    You must be a high roller to get 3 nights a week.

    What do you play at Borgata and what's your average bet size? It has to be in hundreds to get 3 comped nights a week.

    Also, I can only guess that you lose a lot, too. But then, you bet big enough you can win a lot, too.

    Don't you have to use your comp dollars for food and drinks?

    Or, does your host comp all your expenses? It's probably this.
    They give me 3 nights per week.

    They don’t give me much of anything else though besides free show tix, $50 free play, $50 comp dollars 2x a month
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nate rasta View Post
    I know there's a delay between t.v. and live action.but how do the books always know the outcome of the play before it happens on live t.v.? Do they have a different feed where there's no delay or do they have a person in the stadium of every game

    Companies like Sportradar Betgenius & other betting provider's that offer inplay wagering do send a person to the stadium that will update as the game unfolds more so for NBA MLB NFL NHL & CBB hope this Helps

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    Quote Originally Posted by big joe 1212 View Post
    They give me 3 nights per week.

    They don’t give me much of anything else though besides free show tix, $50 free play, $50 comp dollars 2x a month
    Joey can you get tickets for Sebastian Maniscalco for the Mrs

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