[jjgold]

Hard to retain customers

I’m a perfect example I keep getting offers offshore so that’s where the moneys going if I saw my Pennsylvania books offer me 50% reload on 10 time rollover of course I would put money in

What don’t they get? I think there’s so caught up in the European model and they don’t realize what’s going to happen all these new gamblers are eventually going to find offshore and go there after their free perks

I wanna play at the USA shops but there’s just no incentive odds wise or bonus wise

[pologq]

Hard to retain customers

I’m a perfect example I keep getting offers offshore so that’s where the moneys going if I saw my Pennsylvania books offer me 50% reload on 10 time rollover of course I would put money in

What don’t they get? I think there’s so caught up in the European model and they don’t realize what’s going to happen all these new gamblers are eventually going to find offshore and go there after their free perks

I wanna play at the USA shops but there’s just no incentive odds wise or bonus wise

JJ I agree. I am tempted to go back to offshore as a result at times.

whenever i get a feedback email or pop up from DK or Fanduel I mention this. Fanduel gave me 50% one time (up to $150) but when I won on that deposit they stopped. DK offers me no deposit bonuses but I like that at least they have crowns you earn can convert into dollars.

Betrivers has a loyalty program but I am not crazy about their site.

[jjgold]

Polker You’re paying tremendous juice also

In Pennsylvania probably Fandual and DK the closest thing to a generic offshore book

[pologq]

Polker You’re paying tremendous juice also

In Pennsylvania probably Fandual and DK the closest thing to a generic offshore book

sadly you are right. i feel like they don't care and just want the casual fan anyway.

[jjgold]

sadly you are right. i feel like they don't care and just want the casual fan anyway.

nothing wrong with that

[pologq]

nothing wrong with that

no but it doesn't do us any good who line shop

[pavyracer]

Hard to retain customers

I’m a perfect example I keep getting offers offshore so that’s where the moneys going if I saw my Pennsylvania books offer me 50% reload on 10 time rollover of course I would put money in

What don’t they get? I think there’s so caught up in the European model and they don’t realize what’s going to happen all these new gamblers are eventually going to find offshore and go there after their free perks

I wanna play at the USA shops but there’s just no incentive odds wise or bonus wise

You keep getting bonus offers because you lose your bankroll offshore.

I asked you many times. Do you know how to request a payout from offshore?

[jjgold]

Paver yes

I am well known

[pologq]

Paver yes

I am well known

[stevex]

Out of all the onshore books in Jersey, BetMGM was the only one throwing me consistent reload bonuses but that’s crawled to a stop. PPH and offshore shops will continue to get my business just based on their consistent reload bonus offers. It’s 100% an area these onshore books need to fix.

[Itsamazing777]

Betmgm kept giving me 100 percent deposit matches with only 1x rollover until I hammered them on those now all of a sudden they don't send me anything.

[newton0038]

Bet Rivers is a pain in the ass on a smartphone. Pages very slow to load, make a bet the odds insta change in the opposite direction. Switch from a scores page and back to their page, its a full site reload again and again.

Not cool

[stevex]

Betmgm kept giving me 100 percent deposit matches with only 1x rollover until I hammered them on those now all of a sudden they don't send me anything.

Same. Those were gold for a while.

[jjgold]

Everything was gold early on until they started losing tons of money for various reasons

They realized the hold % is not big on sports and plus the tremendous costs to operate in usa

[big joe 1212]

99% of my action goes offshore

USA books now useless to me

They are still doing well because 95% of gamblers don’t know anything about offshore or are too scared of the unknown

[Roscoe_Word]

That's fuken funny.

[KiDBaZkiT]

Then how come I hear/see multiple ads daily offering promotions? Might not be an actual “bonus” but they essentially offer the same thing often times with no rollover. I’m strictly Nevada books so I wouldn’t be able to say for certain but I know I hear promotions advertised all day long from USA books. Not having to deal in BTC is bonus enough IMO.

[pologq]

Betmgm kept giving me 100 percent deposit matches with only 1x rollover until I hammered them on those now all of a sudden they don't send me anything.

same. once you beat them they stop.

and sad thing is i would keep playing cause i earn the MGM Rewards for the Borgata.

[pologq]

Then how come I hear/see multiple ads daily offering promotions? Might not be an actual “bonus” but they essentially offer the same thing often times with no rollover. I’m strictly Nevada books so I wouldn’t be able to say for certain but I know I hear promotions advertised all day long from USA books. Not having to deal in BTC is bonus enough IMO.

it usually is for new customers. so when i sign in that ad you see from tv disappears.

i had higher hopes too after seeing all the ads for NJ before they started in NY. then i saw it was 1 and done.

[KiDBaZkiT]

it usually is for new customers. so when i sign in that ad you see from tv disappears.

i had higher hopes too after seeing all the ads for NJ before they started in NY. then i saw it was 1 and done.

Sounds right. How is their juice on College/Pro football first halves? Offshore religiously -120 and on BM I have seen as high as -137 on point spread. I’ve never had to pay more than -115 in juice on a first half in Nevada.

[Judge Crater]

I always figured they gave free plays instead of bonuses because of some tax reason.

[pologq]

Sounds right. How is their juice on College/Pro football first halves? Offshore religiously -120 and on BM I have seen as high as -137 on point spread. I’ve never had to pay more than -115 in juice on a first half in Nevada.

ive seen high juice like you said