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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    He missed some time during a crucial part of the MVP race where jokic and giannis Gaines ground. Doc, Morey and harden all a part to play but the end result is the end result. History rarely remembers the excuses
    Thanks man, and yeah, you remembered right.

    At +300 that was extreme value.
    It was extreme value at +180. +300 was a gift from the wagering gods.

    Embid was dead money even at -145, it never ends will for him, and never will.

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    I'm glad Embiid didn't get it. Dude is 7 feet crying for fouls like his butt buddy Harden. Most guys try to make baskets, these guys try to draw fouls and are ruining the game for me. Fukk him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I'm glad Embiid didn't get it. Dude is 7 feet crying for fouls like his butt buddy Harden. Most guys try to make baskets, these guys try to draw fouls and are ruining the game for me. Fukk him.

    Not to mention he's a liability handling the ball.
    He's a turnover waiting to happen.
    I've seen Embid throw the ball to the assistant head coach who's sitting on the bench too many times to know he has next to zero when it comes to distribution skills.

    He was fifth in the league in rebounds, a distant fifth.
    Gobert and Jokic were the rebound champs this year, and Jokic was a fraction of a point from winning that title too.
    Embid is an overrated rebounder, not shit, but not this all-great backboard cleaner some make him out to be.

    While Embid did win the scoring title, he won it by default, that crown was Lebron's for the taking but he decided to rest the final games, he even said I don't need this to cement my legacy, my legacy has been sealed years ago.
    James's words, not mine.

    Here's the important part, Embid missed more than half of his field goal attempts.
    That's horrendous for a low post center. Look at the field goal percentages (accuracy) the first 23 are all centers, with a few big power forwards in there, for obvious reasons, they're all low post players, with the exception of Jokic who shoots a lot outside of the lane, and he's still top ten.

    Gobert made almost three out of every four shots he took (71 percent)
    And he's a better defender.
    Embid missed more than half his shots (49 percent)
    Gobert made 22 percent more shots he took than Embid.

    Liars figure, figures don't lie.

    As far a defense goes, ask anybody who covers the NBA for the media, they almost all tell you, Jokic's defense has vastly improved, conversely, they all will tell you pretty much Embid's defense has dropped off.
    There's a reason why Embid did not receive one single DPOY vote of any kind this season.
    It's because he didn't deserve one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Not to mention he's a liability handling the ball.
    He's a turnover waiting to happen.
    I've seen Embid throw the ball to the assistant head coach who's sitting on the bench too many times to know he has next to zero when it comes to distribution skills.

    He was fifth in the league in rebounds, a distant fifth.
    Gobert and Jokic were the rebound champs this year, and Jokic was a fraction of a point from winning that title too.
    Embid is an overrated rebounder, not shit, but not this all-great backboard cleaner some make him out to be.

    While Embid did win the scoring title, he won it by default, that crown was Lebron's for the taking but he decided to rest the final games, he even said I don't need this to cement my legacy, my legacy has been sealed years ago.
    James's words, not mine.

    Here's the important part, Embid missed more than half of his field goal attempts.
    That's horrendous for a low post center. Look at the field goal percentages (accuracy) the first 23 are all centers, with a few big power forwards in there, for obvious reasons, they're all low post players, with the exception of Jokic who shoots a lot outside of the lane, and he's still top ten.

    Gobert made almost three out of every four shots he took (71 percent)
    And he's a better defender.
    Embid missed more than half his shots (49 percent)
    Gobert made 22 percent more shots he took than Embid.

    Liars figure, figures don't lie.

    As far a defense goes, ask anybody who covers the NBA for the media, they almost all tell you, Jokic's defense has vastly improved, conversely, they all will tell you pretty much Embid's defense has dropped off.
    There's a reason why Embid did not receive one single DPOY vote of any kind this season.
    It's because he didn't deserve one.
    This entire post is a lie.

    Embiid averages far more rebounds than Jokic for his career and he's the best ball handling frontline player in the game.

    Just stop.

    Embiid has been an all-defensive team member 3 times, 3. Jokic zero. Embiid protects the entire paint and defends on the perimeter, Jokic does neither.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    This entire post is a lie.
    Since this a discussion thread about the 2022 MVP award it should be painfully obvious to even the dumbest fifth grader that we aren't talking career, we're talking season.

    My question to you is this?
    What grade are you in?

    The more you try to discredit my facts by saying what I post is a lie, just makes you look like even a larger pathological liar.

    Take a look around silly little clown.
    People are pointing at you and laughing, they're mocking you.

    I don't see anyone else trying to discredit what I say.
    You know why?
    Because the posts I post are proven facts.

    The first time you post the truth will be the first time.

    Nice try though.
    Lame effort, but nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Embiid is a far better shooter than Giannis, Giannis is a barely average shooter. Stop.
    Please show us where that is fact..
    The Freak ranked #11 with a .553 shooting % this year while Embiid was #27 @ .499..
    How is Joel a better shooter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    Please show us where that is fact..
    The Freak ranked #11 with a .553 shooting % this year while Embiid was #27 @ .499..
    How is Joel a better shooter?
    That's the very definition of a pathological liar.
    He makes things up, tries to pass off his made-up facts as truth, then gets exposed, by superior data analysts and fact checkers such as myself.

    But wait, it gets better.
    Even after being exposed as the pathological liar that he is, he still demands he's correct.

    Case in point, who remembers that Teddy Bridgewater won ten straight games whopper?
    Like that was going to be so difficult to disprove?

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    respect jokic . I would give it to embiid this year tough . hard to judge tough , both tremendous team impact . both inches away this year .

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    Comparing the two rosters, Jokic works with far less. congrats to him!

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    First guy to have 2000 points, 1000 rebounds, and 500 assists in a season. Pretty impressive.

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    jokic > embid

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    If Jokic had a better coach he would have won by a larger margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yulia74 View Post
    jokic > embid
    Jokic>Giannis>Embid

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    He’s also better at MVP’s I guess
    😁😁😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    Please show us where that is fact..
    The Freak ranked #11 with a .553 shooting % this year while Embiid was #27 @ .499..
    How is Joel a better shooter?
    Embiid shot 37% from 3 and nearly 80% from the foul line. Just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post

    Since this a discussion thread about the 2022 MVP award it should be painfully obvious to even the dumbest fifth grader that we aren't talking career, we're talking season.

    My question to you is this?
    What grade are you in?

    The more you try to discredit my facts by saying what I post is a lie, just makes you look like even a larger pathological liar.

    Take a look around silly little clown.
    People are pointing at you and laughing, they're mocking you.

    I don't see anyone else trying to discredit what I say.
    You know why?
    Because the posts I post are proven facts.

    The first time you post the truth will be the first time.

    Nice try though.
    Lame effort, but nice try.
    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post

    That's the very definition of a pathological liar.
    He makes things up, tries to pass off his made-up facts as truth, then gets exposed, by superior data analysts and fact checkers such as myself.

    But wait, it gets better.
    Even after being exposed as the pathological liar that he is, he still demands he's correct.

    Case in point, who remembers that Teddy Bridgewater won ten straight games whopper?
    Like that was going to be so difficult to disprove?
    Everything you post is a lie. You even got caught posting fake lines.

    Embiid is a 3 time all-defensive player and he shot 37% from 3 this year. Stop talking, you are a proven liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Embiid shot 37% from 3 and nearly 80% from the foul line. Just stop.
    Nearly 80% free throws...
    What does that have to do with being a better shooter than Giannis?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    Nearly 80% free throws...
    What does that have to do with being a better shooter than Giannis?
    Giannis shoots under 70% from the foul line for his career. Just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Everything you post is a lie. You even got caught posting fake lines.

    Embiid is a 3 time all-defensive player and he shot 37% from 3 this year. Stop talking, you are a proven liar.
    Nice try, doesn't work.
    Just stop, who caught me in a lie, when was it, what were the details.

    Too funny.
    A pathological liar calling out the man with perfect integrity.
    You can't make this shit up.

    Wow, how tilted are you?
    You're reaching now clown

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Nice try, doesn't work.
    Just stop, who caught me in a lie, when was it, what were the details.

    Too funny.
    A pathological liar calling out the man with perfect integrity.
    You can't make this shit up.

    Wow, how tilted are you?
    You're reaching now clown
    You were caught posting fake lines - you got so angry to. Your little mans syndrome was off the chart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Giannis shoots under 70% from the foul line for his career. Just stop.
    More misinformation...
    Why do you lie so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    More misinformation...
    Why do you lie so much?
    I'll talk very slowly so you can try and follow. Foul shooting is part of shooting in the game of basketball. Embiid is a far better foul shooter than Giannis and he's a far better shooter overall. Stop talking. You are a liar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    I'll talk very slowly so you can try and follow. Foul shooting is part of shooting in the game of basketball. Embiid is a far better foul shooter than Giannis and he's a far better shooter overall. Stop talking. You are a liar.
    Embiid 81% career ft
    Jokic 83% career ft
    Now, talk slower asshat so you can understand facts.

    Giannis shoots 71% not <70 like you spouted.
    You are wrong asshat
    Last edited by Buckandadime; 05-09-22 at 08:58 PM. Reason: Giannis added.. Disregard jokic.. Asshat still stands

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You were caught posting fake lines - you got so angry to. Your little mans syndrome was off the chart.
    When?
    What were the details?
    I'll leave here for good if you can prove it.
    If you can't, you leave for good.

    Care to take that bet?
    That's how confident I am that it never happened.

    If you don't take the bet it's because you made that up, and you're a coward.

    Put up or shut up time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    Embiid 81% career ft
    Jokic 83% career ft
    Now, talk slower asshat so you can understand facts.

    Giannis shoots 71% not <70 like you spouted.
    You are wrong asshat
    My God, have you ever seen a guy get owned from completely different angles at the same time before?
    He's not only a pathological liar, a sociopath, toss in masochist as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    Embiid 81% career ft
    Jokic 83% career ft
    Now, talk slower asshat so you can understand facts.

    Giannis shoots 71% not <70 like you spouted.
    You are wrong asshat
    Embiid is a far better shooter than GIannis as I said, stop talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    When?
    What were the details?
    I'll leave here for good if you can prove it.
    If you can't, you leave for good.

    Care to take that bet?
    That's how confident I am that it never happened.

    If you don't take the bet it's because you made that up, and you're a coward.

    Put up or shut up time.
    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post

    My God, have you ever seen a guy get owned from completely different angles at the same time before?
    He's not only a pathological liar, a sociopath, toss in masochist as well.
    You've been caught lying multiple times. Just stop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    My God, have you ever seen a guy get owned from completely different angles at the same time before?
    He's not only a pathological liar, a sociopath, toss in masochist as well.
    I couldn't look at myself..

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    2 tools.
    You are such a little pussy.

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    Seriously MORONO, this isn't your topic as you always say, go post in your own little "look at me" shitfest and let the adults talk here.

    Or better yet, can somone please doxxx this little roosterlicker? OML I will go to the cardboard box he lives in and break every bone in both of his hands into such tiny pieces he'll never type again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You've been caught lying multiple times. Just stop.
    Take the bet coward.
    Show me poof, you claim to be an attorney (another one of your pathological lie) the onus is on you to prove it.
    Can you?
    If not, you're a coward and a liar.

    Give it up, every trick in your book you've tried to put me on tilt, dude, I'm Teflon, doesn't stick.
    Not only that, nobody believes you.

    Nice try again, lame, but nice try.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post
    I couldn't look at myself..
    Not only does his words not bother me, he's going to get banned.
    And I'll take that bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    That's the stupidest take on anything ever posted here.

    😂😂😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buckandadime View Post

    I couldn't look at myself..
    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post

    You are such a little pussy.
    Quote Originally Posted by CJ View Post
    Seriously MORONO, this isn't your topic as you always say, go post in your own little "look at me" shitfest and let the adults talk here.

    Or better yet, can somone please doxxx this little roosterlicker? OML I will go to the cardboard box he lives in and break every bone in both of his hands into such tiny pieces he'll never type again.
    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Take the bet coward.
    Show me poof, you claim to be an attorney (another one of your pathological lie) the onus is on you to prove it.
    Can you?
    If not, you're a coward and a liar.

    Give it up, every trick in your book you've tried to put me on tilt, dude, I'm Teflon, doesn't stick.
    Not only that, nobody believes you.

    Nice try again, lame, but nice try.
    Quote Originally Posted by Headsterx View Post

    
    The same tools in every one of my threads or responding to my comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    Not only does his words not bother me, he's going to get banned.
    And I'll take that bet.
    do not does - a real writer would know that. Stop talking.

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