[jjgold]

Lets end thread

Every pioneer book about 15 from 20 years ago is still here and business is very good

[KVB]

Yes, let's end the offshore books discussion.

After all, SBR speaks to the US bettors now.

lmao

You can't stop it Gold, you can't stop us.

Offshore more important to the savvy US bettor than ever before. The gov'ts and leading lobbyists just see dollar signs, they have no idea what they are facing and the type of money movement that floats around, some of which they are causing themselves.

[KVB]

The biggest market leading bettors and groups move money in the US already, nothing to change there. They will use foreign arms to remain legal around the world.

[TheMoneyShot]

The biggest market leading bettors and groups move money in the US already, nothing to change there. They will use foreign arms to remain legal around the world.

I'm still trying to figure out the 5D exit with USA clients? Yes, I know they wanted to apparently "come clean" so they had a shot at being legal in the USA... but where the hell are they??? And was it even worth it coming clean???

[KVB]

Coming clean did make them eligible to business in the US but coming clean because they wanted to do business in the may not have been a valid rumor.

Tony's wife ratted out some, settled and paid the fines to help the DA, and she said at the time it was to hopefully re launch into the US, she said it herself.

But I think she was feeling the heat of an ongoing criminal investiagtion into Tony's operations and needed to prove she wasn't guilty of any of it and that her company isn't guilty either.

She reached a deal with prosecutors, the PA courts, etc, and in that deal she pointed to some of the guilty. So she may have in fact been saving her own ass and we don't know about it.

Re opening and re branding? Yeah, we'll see.

More like saving her ass and the company's ass.

[captrobey]

Yes, let's end the offshore books discussion.

After all, SBR speaks to the US bettors now.

lmao

You can't stop it Gold, you can't stop us.

Offshore more important to the savvy US bettor than ever before. The gov'ts and leading lobbyists just see dollar signs, they have no idea what they are facing and the type of money movement that floats around, some of which they are causing themselves.

If they would offer something better i would play more USA books. But every deposit i basically can get between 50-100% way better lomits offshore. If Caesars or MGM would do what the casino Avi did out west years ago and give you free rooms and stuff i would Love that. We went and flew out there and we got free 3 night stay and covered all food. That was worth playing in casino. But they do nothing like that .Lets see Caesars gives you a whopping $5 bet MGM bet $50 casino get a $10 sports bet . Big whoop.

[jjgold]

I have 11 pa books

Have zero use for any

The perks and odds way better offshore

This is the real usa issue

[jjgold]

They were forced out or wife going to jail 50 years

Paid massive fine too

They were never coming to usa
You cannot with criminal ties

I'm still trying to figure out the 5D exit with USA clients? Yes, I know they wanted to apparently "come clean" so they had a shot at being legal in the USA... but where the hell are they??? And was it even worth it coming clean???

[wombat]

For those that are saying the US will end crypto, that is not happening. That's like saying the US will end the internet. In this battle for technology, no country wants to be left behind so criminalizing crypto is like trying to end the internet. You are putting your country years behind fintech if you don't embrace cryptocurrency.

[Brock Landers]

I have 11 pa books

Have zero use for any

The perks and odds way better offshore

This is the real usa issue

4 months ago you were touting US books as the greatest thing since sliced bread. Now they're shit.

Which is it Dickie??

[DontTailMe]

Coming clean did make them eligible to business in the US but coming clean because they wanted to do business in the may not have been a valid rumor.

Tony's wife ratted out some, settled and paid the fines to help the DA, and she said at the time it was to hopefully re launch into the US, she said it herself.

But I think she was feeling the heat of an ongoing criminal investiagtion into Tony's operations and needed to prove she wasn't guilty of any of it and that her company isn't guilty either.

She reached a deal with prosecutors, the PA courts, etc, and in that deal she pointed to some of the guilty. So she may have in fact been saving her own ass and we don't know about it.

Re opening and re branding? Yeah, we'll see.

More like saving her ass and the company's ass.

It was more than a rumor. 5D's own press release stated that was the reason. But it was an obvious lie and cover story from the beginning. The wife saw an opportunity to get the feds off her tail, pay a relatively small fine, and keep the bulk of their fortune. The fact that she's square with the DOJ doesn't change anything about their status as unfriendly actors who gained untaxed revenue from all 50 states over a couple decades. The chances of them getting a license anywhere in the USA when there are dozens of legitimate businesses vying for them are slim to none, and they know it.

[CrazyCarl]

Why? For what reason exactly?

A lot of the offshore books run out of costa rica. My post wasn’t that serious.

[Optional]

For those that are saying the US will end crypto, that is not happening. That's like saying the US will end the internet. In this battle for technology, no country wants to be left behind so criminalizing crypto is like trying to end the internet. You are putting your country years behind fintech if you don't embrace cryptocurrency.

North Carolina regulations specifically approve Crypto payments for betting.

Once the big brands see if that attracts offshore money to them I am guessing it will spread nationwide.

[pimike]

They were forced out or wife going to jail 50 years

Paid massive fine too

They were never coming to usa
You cannot with criminal ties

Exactly

[MalikHusam]

North Carolina regulations specifically approve Crypto payments for betting.

Once the big brands see if that attracts offshore money to them I am guessing it will spread nationwide.

So if everyone is paying taxes on crypto, how is having crypto in a legal book (that charges -115 instead of -105 offshore on major sports) useful in any way?

[KVB]

Don't use crypto to avoid taxes.

When it's all said and done of course crypto will survive, but those using it to evade taxes won't.

They are the real target here.

Don't use crypto to evade taxes.

Not anymore, those days are gone.

[DontTailMe]

So if everyone is paying taxes on crypto, how is having crypto in a legal book (that charges -115 instead of -105 offshore on major sports) useful in any way?

It's not, really. I guess the hope is that since offshore players already have at least some of they're bankroll in BTC, then maybe they'd be more inclined to send some of it to a legal which accepts BTC. Seems kind of dubious to me. If I deposit at a legal book, it's because I see a good reason to play there, not because they have a bitcoin address. I can always figure out how to fund them.