1. #1
    unluckysob
    unluckysob's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-21-08
    Posts: 1,509
    Betpoints: 11926

    Anybody else use Vegas Insider??

    Changed everything. Rotation. Game history. Point spread history. Sucks. What other sites offer correct rotation, scores, point spread history. Thanks.

  2. #2
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    its terrible

    most sites are ruined because of non gambling programmers

  3. #3
    unluckysob
    unluckysob's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 05-21-08
    Posts: 1,509
    Betpoints: 11926

    Agree. Only real gamblers know what other gamblers want need.

  4. #4
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    even a lot of sportsbooks ruined by software
    old gambling sites were great

    mainly pure text based

    Now a joke with scumbag touts adds, etc

  5. #5
    clockwise1965
    clockwise1965's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-01-13
    Posts: 6,736
    Betpoints: 17070

    Vegas insider is a joke. The are more about ads then gambling content

  6. #6
    Tanko
    Slow roll
    Tanko's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-19-09
    Posts: 5,693
    Betpoints: 18764

    Quote Originally Posted by clockwise1965 View Post
    Vegas insider is a joke. The are more about ads then gambling content


    100% Agree
    its really become useless.
    175 pts

    3-QUESTION
    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 07/04/2022


  7. #7
    Eddy Munny
    Eddy Munny's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-13-13
    Posts: 11,904
    Betpoints: 15709

    Does V.I. still show public betting percentages?

    Couldn't find anything with a cursory glance, didn't realize they changed the whole layout.

  8. #8
    stevenash
    stevenash's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-17-11
    Posts: 54,248
    Betpoints: 19253

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddy Munny View Post
    Does V.I. still show public betting percentages?

    Couldn't find anything with a cursory glance, didn't realize they changed the whole layout.
    Awful, it resembles a cheap knock off of Microsoft Bing homepage.

    https://www.vegasinsider.com/

  9. #9
    MinnesotaFats
    MinnesotaFats's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 12-18-10
    Posts: 14,760
    Betpoints: 1658

    I kinda like the new format there

    I love comparing opening lines, etc

  10. #10
    Fred The Hammer
    Fred The Hammer's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 08-13-13
    Posts: 10,612
    Betpoints: 7339

    I like Vegas Insider for the ability to look at a teams entire schedule with spreads/totals.

    Ken Pom #1, Oddshark #2, and Vegas Insider #3 and I've been killing hoops

  11. #11
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    Oddshark impossible to follow

  12. #12
    bobbyfk
    Las Vegas Local
    bobbyfk's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-19-09
    Posts: 15,213
    Betpoints: 2665

    I use Covers

  13. #13
    hehfest
    hehfest's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 09-28-08
    Posts: 6,274
    Betpoints: 2330

    I use Covers, but also use VI. VI pissed me off a while ago when they pulled down the odds pages of many of the offshores including Pinny. I liked how they had the whole season for each team so I can see further back than Covers which is their last 10 games up front. I can click on something additional on Covers still to see the whole year but its more clicking and more time this way. Oh well. Don't like the new format.

  14. #14
    TheMoneyShot
    TheMoneyShot's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 02-14-07
    Posts: 26,603
    Betpoints: 24

    Quote Originally Posted by unluckysob View Post
    Changed everything. Rotation. Game history. Point spread history. Sucks. What other sites offer correct rotation, scores, point spread history. Thanks.
    They changed a few things quite a long time ago.... I think they are worthless now.

  15. #15
    goduke
    goduke's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 02-17-10
    Posts: 9,627
    Betpoints: 965

    Yeah they’ve been worthless for about 3-4 years now. They started manipulating their data and changing percentage money and what games were the top bet games each day based on what their sponsored books would tell them while hiding some of those games so that it wasn’t public information

  16. #16
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    nobody knows how to display gambling data anymore

    All the old school ways long gone

  17. #17
    stevenash
    stevenash's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 01-17-11
    Posts: 54,248
    Betpoints: 19253

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    nobody knows how to display gambling data anymore

    All the old school ways long gone
    Yeah, and it's not that complicated.
    I'm the biggest nerd on these boards, but I don't need all the bullshit data.

  18. #18
    Optional
    Optional's Avatar Moderator
    Join Date: 06-10-10
    Posts: 52,288
    Betpoints: 837

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    nobody knows how to display gambling data anymore

    All the old school ways long gone
    All too fancy or spaced out to suit phone templates.

    Give me old school columns and rows to see max amount of data on one screen.
    175 pts

    3-QUESTION
    SBR TRIVIA WINNER 06/30/2022

    SBR Bash
    Punta Cana
    Attendee 2/4/2017


  19. #19
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    All too fancy or spaced out to suit phone templates.

    Give me old school columns and rows to see max amount of data on one screen.
    yep Optional you get it just like most line services garbage

  20. #20
    sweethook
    hes one of us
    sweethook's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 11-21-07
    Posts: 12,444
    Betpoints: 7541

    they when to shit a long time ago ..

  21. #21
    hubie69
    I am JJs bookie
    hubie69's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-16-10
    Posts: 6,910
    Betpoints: 135

    I find it peculiar to trash the layout of another sites odds page when ours isn't even reliable enough to stay online for more than a few days at a time......

    This is not a swipe at SBR but perhaps we should put less time into criticizing other sites when ours struggles to even stay online.....
    Last edited by hubie69; 02-26-22 at 10:07 AM.

  22. #22
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    Hubie I think a lot of people gave up and start looking at other sites

    Not good

  23. #23
    kyhawk
    kyhawk's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 06-21-08
    Posts: 893
    Betpoints: 3984

    https://www.wagertalk.com/odds

    The absolute worst for scores/odds is the old format here. Terrrrrrrrible.

    https://classic.sportsbookreview.com/betting-odds/

  24. #24
    hubie69
    I am JJs bookie
    hubie69's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 09-16-10
    Posts: 6,910
    Betpoints: 135

    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Hubie I think a lot of people gave up and start looking at other sites

    Not good








    Just phenomenal timing. While their layout might be trash, I can actually see odds .......

  25. #25
    70'sMan
    70'sMan's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 02-12-12
    Posts: 633
    Betpoints: 6725

    Would be interested if there is another site like VI. For those that don't quite comprehend the issue, the site copied well into excel and was easy to split out rotation, team, closing line and scores. I could basically log an entire week of CBB including HT scores in less than 20 minutes. Old Don Best worked this way. Pretty much any other site I find either won't paste into excel or requires a lot more data manipulation.

  26. #26
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    They all changed

    It’s horrible

    Quote Originally Posted by 70'sMan View Post
    Would be interested if there is another site like VI. For those that don't quite comprehend the issue, the site copied well into excel and was easy to split out rotation, team, closing line and scores. I could basically log an entire week of CBB including HT scores in less than 20 minutes. Old Don Best worked this way. Pretty much any other site I find either won't paste into excel or requires a lot more data manipulation.

  27. #27
    comet52
    comet52's Avatar Become A Pro!
    Join Date: 10-16-19
    Posts: 32
    Betpoints: 351

    Well complain about other sites odds but this site used to be my go-to for odds now its a joke. Bet365, 888sport, Uniway, Betway... wtf? I never even heard of 3 of those and I don't care what their lines are. I had to go to Wagertalk. At least they have the offshores I bet at.

  28. #28
    jjgold
    Update your status
    jjgold's Avatar SBR PRO
    Join Date: 07-20-05
    Posts: 387,140
    Betpoints: 198

    some pay sites available for premium stats not bad

Top