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    heres another MO FO beast no body mentioned won with two differnt teams 49ers and Cowboys Charles Haley

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    No, he's not on Lawrence Taylor's level. The tight end position exists because Lawrence Taylor couldn't be blocked normally.

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    Donald is up there, top 5, can make a case for a lot of guys. Ray Lewis, Lawrence, Woodson, Deion

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    He's the best there is since Ray Lewis but not a top 5 yet. Ronnie Lott and Lawrence Taylor are the gold standards

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Average. Richard Dent was better
    Funny.....very funny

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    Lololol being best at running forward into another person.
    Who cares?
    And he isn't anyway

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    Dick Butkus enof said. Monsters of the midway.

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    Who here is old enough to remember the Purple People Eaters - Wikipedia?

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    Top 10 for sure but not the best of all time. Imo.

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    Here is my starting Defensive 11 w/ a few asterisks:

    1) From the Super Bowl era. So, excluding guys like Chuck Bednarik and Night Train Lane.
    2) Excluding active players. B/c their careers have not yet been completed.
    3) Assuming 4-3 Base defense.

    DE - Reggie White
    DT - Bob Lilly
    DT - Joe Greene
    DE - Bruce Smith

    OLB (rush) - Lawrence Taylor
    MLB - Dick Butkus
    OLB (coverage) - Jack Ham

    CB - Mel Blount
    S - Ed Reed
    S - Ronnie Lott
    CB - Herb Adderley

    Commentary:
    *I think the Def Ends are pretty easy. Smith is the all-time NFL SACK LEADER. If you include Reggie's USFL sacks...he pushes past Bruce.
    *Re: Defensive Tackles, Alan Page rates amazingly high. He somehow won the LEAGUE MVP as a Def Tackle. Imagine a Defensive Tackle doing that today. I don't want this to sound like a shot on the Purple People Eaters...but the Chiefs/Steelers/Raiders/Dolphins figured out a way to block them by using their aggression against them.
    *I think Joe Greene is an easy choice at DT. Unusual athleticism for a big-man. Changed the game with his cat-quick moves.

    *CB: Have to give bonus points to guy like Blount. So physical that they had to change the rules to prevent WRs from getting mugged.
    *On the 2nd CB, I hate Deion, just a personal bias. Adderley was an excellent DB. A good representative from a fine defense.

    *Love my safety tandem. Top bill-collector in Ronnie Lott. Top playmaker in Ed Reed.
    *Was tempted to list John Lynch b/c of his great instincts. Think Lott/Reed were slightly better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckyTheGoat View Post
    Here is my starting Defensive 11 w/ a few asterisks:

    1) From the Super Bowl era. So, excluding guys like Chuck Bednarik and Night Train Lane.
    2) Excluding active players. B/c their careers have not yet been completed.
    3) Assuming 4-3 Base defense.

    DE - Reggie White
    DT - Bob Lilly
    DT - Joe Greene
    DE - Bruce Smith

    OLB (rush) - Lawrence Taylor
    MLB - Dick Butkus
    OLB (coverage) - Jack Ham

    CB - Mel Blount
    S - Ed Reed
    S - Ronnie Lott
    CB - Herb Adderley

    Commentary:
    *I think the Def Ends are pretty easy. Smith is the all-time NFL SACK LEADER. If you include Reggie's USFL sacks...he pushes past Bruce.
    *Re: Defensive Tackles, Alan Page rates amazingly high. He somehow won the LEAGUE MVP as a Def Tackle. Imagine a Defensive Tackle doing that today. I don't want this to sound like a shot on the Purple People Eaters...but the Chiefs/Steelers/Raiders/Dolphins figured out a way to block them by using their aggression against them.
    *I think Joe Greene is an easy choice at DT. Unusual athleticism for a big-man. Changed the game with his cat-quick moves.

    *CB: Have to give bonus points to guy like Blount. So physical that they had to change the rules to prevent WRs from getting mugged.
    *On the 2nd CB, I hate Deion, just a personal bias. Adderley was an excellent DB. A good representative from a fine defense.

    *Love my safety tandem. Top bill-collector in Ronnie Lott. Top playmaker in Ed Reed.
    *Was tempted to list John Lynch b/c of his great instincts. Think Lott/Reed were slightly better.

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    Chucky~
    Thank you...Excellent List.
    Love your Adderly inclusion.
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    Highest paid non QB

    Let's RAM IT

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    How do the Rams keep paying so many huge guaranteed deals year after year and stay under the cap?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    How do the Rams keep paying so many huge guaranteed deals year after year and stay under the cap?
    California man. Come on now

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadymcgrady View Post
    He's already in the Ronnie Lott stratosphere
    Lott is my pick!

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    Not the best ever. I really don't believe he's all that. So he was on a Super Bowl team.... big deal. I've seen him take games off before. Non existent. You never heard LT take a game off before or even Reggie White. Donald overrated.
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    Top 10 defensive player ever.

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    Lawrence Taylor, Reggie White and Bruce Smith were the best in my view.

    Not sure Donald is in the top 5 or even top 10 all time, yet. You can argue some other defensive tackles were better and more disruptive than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJay View Post
    How do the Rams keep paying so many huge guaranteed deals year after year and stay under the cap?
    They are by far the best run franchise in the NFL. The Donald deal actually freed up cap money for this year 😂

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    They are by far the best run franchise in the NFL. The Donald deal actually freed up cap money for this year 
    Boy you are really drinking the koolaid, gaucher

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAKEPEAVY21 View Post
    Boy you are really drinking the koolaid, gaucher
    Other than maybe the Patriots, who is better? They manage the cap well, make big moves, have won their division 3/5 years, been to two Superbowls and won 1, winning record past 5 years and the only year they missed the playoffs was basically due to a missed field goal.

    You don't hear any crazy shit with their players and McVay gets all his assistants promoted. Classy org all the way around.

    Oh and they pay their players.

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    Best ever? Not even close. Maybe if you been watching football only for the last 5 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Kraken View Post
    Deion Sanders the goat
    Great cover guy but would not help with run support

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    LT
    Dieken
    Reggie White
    Dick Butkus
    Ed Reed
    Joe Greene
    Primetime
    Gino Marchetti
    Night train
    Bruce Smith
    Lambert
    Derrick Thomas
    Lott
    Blount
    Bell
    and that is just one minute off the top of my head honestly wouldn't even put him ahead of Sapp. He might not even be in the top 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gauchojake View Post
    Other than maybe the Patriots, who is better? They manage the cap well, make big moves, have won their division 3/5 years, been to two Superbowls and won 1, winning record past 5 years and the only year they missed the playoffs was basically due to a missed field goal.

    You don't hear any crazy shit with their players and McVay gets all his assistants promoted. Classy org all the way around.

    Oh and they pay their players.
    Patriots, Ravens and Steelers come to mind. They're pretty much always contenders for the playoffs...we are talking decades of success here.

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    Guessing no chance they sign Beckham now?

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    RONNIE LOTT i remember posters of him in his stance QUOTE " Not graduating HS and coming out into life is like facing me"

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