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    Advice needed for rollover

    I’m looking for advice on how to complete a rollover I have pending. I know the obvious advice is don’t take them by what’s done is done.
    So I was fortunate and won a couple bucks on the Super Bowl but now I have to complete a $3000 rollover. It’s all sports so I have a fighting chance.

    My question is do I go small bets and try to win by percentages or larger bets on favorites?

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    How many times do you have to roll it?

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    One way go all in and hope it loses

    Bet other side another book and eat juice

    Can only do this once so you do not blow all profits on juice if bonus side wins

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    Quote Originally Posted by flocko76 View Post
    How many times do you have to roll it?
    10x. So $3000 with a $500 bankroll(deposit plus winnings).

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    I would also double check with the book if they have a minimum “number of days hold”. For example:
    Uwager has nice bonus options, some you can take your winnings anytime, others have to meet the rollover first, and I believe all their bonuses have a “30 day hold”

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    Well depends how much roll over u got u can use that money to arb bet what u would is bet the dog with that and Fab with ur money on another book

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT RayRay View Post
    I’m looking for advice on how to complete a rollover I have pending. I know the obvious advice is don’t take them by what’s done is done.
    So I was fortunate and won a couple bucks on the Super Bowl but now I have to complete a $3000 rollover. It’s all sports so I have a fighting chance.

    My question is do I go small bets and try to win by percentages or larger bets on favorites?
    I am aggressive i always go All in but look for a good game you feel good about. If you can hit a couple All in bets and get closer then you can slow it down when you get closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT RayRay View Post
    I’m looking for advice on how to complete a rollover I have pending. I know the obvious advice is don’t take them by what’s done is done.
    So I was fortunate and won a couple bucks on the Super Bowl but now I have to complete a $3000 rollover. It’s all sports so I have a fighting chance.

    My question is do I go small bets and try to win by percentages or larger bets on favorites?
    If you are pretty sure that you can't win making say 30 x $100 bets then your best option is probably to bet everything available and make 1000 x $3 bets over a few days. Which theoretically should see you lose a maximum of $300 worst case. And more likely come out closer to even than that.

    Personally I think taking every soccer draw is the safest way to go. Because you can be pretty sure the draw option is not going to be shaded either way on purpose.

    Some books may not really appreciate you doing it this way after a bigger than your normal win off a bonus btw. Research if your book is known to invoke bonus rules about changing betting style after a win to complete rollover more safely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    If you are pretty sure that you can't win making say 30 x $100 bets then your best option is probably to bet everything available and make 1000 x $3 bets over a few days. Which theoretically should see you lose a maximum of $300 worst case. And more likely come out closer to even than that.

    Personally I think taking every soccer draw is the safest way to go. Because you can be pretty sure the draw option is not going to be shaded either way on purpose.

    Some books may not really appreciate you doing it this way after a bigger than your normal win off a bonus btw. Research if your book is known to invoke bonus rules about changing betting style after a win to complete rollover more safely.
    I agree you know my entire betting structure is built like this to hit bigger and complete rollover faster. I look for a half decent bonus and start lower . I aim for $5000 to a $10000 cashout. If you deposit $400 and bonus gets you to say $600 rollover on a normal book around $7000 . All in 3 times gets you to $4400 or so . From there a lot of options. Thats my whole attack really. The more you start with the easier it is so if i start with $600 i may go into Live bets and look for a decent favorite that is winning and risk it all to win $100 more to get to $700-$750. That makes a difference in the All ins just sucks if the heavy fav loses which seems to happen a lot to me. But when it does not it has helped.
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    your time limit to rollover is? it depends on the time because it gives you plenty of time and relaxation to take the highly guaranteed picks instead of hurrying and losing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT RayRay View Post
    10x. So $3000 with a $500 bankroll(deposit plus winnings).
    How much are you up?

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    It's a lot of work but you can just compare lines at the book you are at and bet every line that is different from BetOnline and Bookmaker and you will break even or lose very little. Baseball totals work pretty good for that and you might even earn a small profit. Keep your bets to about $10 and you will not have any risk really. It's a good strategy regardless of what you bet but if you bet your ordinary amount, you could hit some bad luck. You will have some steep downturns with this sort of thing too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT RayRay View Post
    10x. So $3000 with a $500 bankroll(deposit plus winnings).
    Is that right 10xs $3000 seems low shouldn't it be $500 xs 10 $5000 or am i missing something and looking at that wrong.

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    hasn't been mentioned yet but some books don't let you go all-in

    bovada for example has bonus terms where you can't bet more than 50% of your deposit on 1 bet

    Any wagers using deposited funds or bonus funds prior to bonus completion are subject to the following maximums:

    • Casino max bet per wager - 20% of deposited amount
    • Sports max bet per wager - 50% of deposited amount

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT RayRay View Post
    10x. So $3000 with a $500 bankroll(deposit plus winnings).
    Your rollover is more like $10,000. Typically, you will lose all of your free play winning and about 60% of your deposit on most bonuses. So if you are up a good amount already, you just have to coinflip your way through it and you will come out ahead. You are looking at losing about $450 of your present balance on rollover if you play it conservatively. If you play it strategically, you can not lose any of it but will be a busy bee.

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    Seeing these answers just makes me cringe.

    My goodness.

    Is this really the best answer some of you guys have for him?
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    My answer to you is this: Nothing! You can take your wife, children, and your mistress and move to Las Vegas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Seeing these answers just makes me cringe.

    My goodness.

    Is this really the best answer some of you guys have for him?
    It was my best attempt.

    And I'd really like to hear your opinion on how he should handle it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BT RayRay View Post
    10x. So $3000 with a $500 bankroll(deposit plus winnings).
    Assuming you have other offshore accounts, especially lower juice ones, simply make offsetting all-in bets in an attempt to wipe out that $500 balance. With minimal line shopping effort you can find offsetting lines that are only a few cents apart and bet off the balance($500) you want to eliminate. If all goes right, you're done with a $10-$20 cost. If the wrong account wins you'll have to double up ($1000) on your hedge with a $20-$40 loss. And if the wrong account wins again, wager offsetting $1500 bets with an expected loss of $30-$60. At this point, your $3000 rollover is done so it doesn't matter which account wins.

    Basic Arbing 101 strategy, you're welcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    Assuming you have other offshore accounts, especially lower juice ones, simply make offsetting all-in bets in an attempt to wipe out that $500 balance. With minimal line shopping effort you can find offsetting lines that are only a few cents apart and bet off the balance($500) you want to eliminate. If all goes right, you're done with a $10-$20 cost. If the wrong account wins you'll have to double up ($1000) on your hedge with a $20-$40 loss. And if the wrong account wins again, wager offsetting $1500 bets with an expected loss of $30-$60. At this point, your $3000 rollover is done so it doesn't matter which account wins.

    Basic Arbing 101 strategy, you're welcome.
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    What are the chances a guy with a $500 balance asking about a rollover is going to be able to make offsetting bets?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    What are the chances a guy with a $500 balance asking about a rollover is going to be able to make offsetting bets?
    What are the odds a guy with $500 at just one Book requests rollover advice on the "Think Tank" forum, a more sophisticated outlet here. The OP was definitely looking for an alternative way to complete his RO than just grinding it out it with several small bets as you suggested. Whether it's viable to him or not, depending on his financial means, he deserves the best option possible regardless if he can utilize it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    Seeing these answers just makes me cringe.

    My goodness.

    Is this really the best answer some of you guys have for him?
    What advice would you give to the OP?
    Last edited by HedgeHog; 02-23-22 at 05:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    What are the odds a guy with $500 at just one Book requests rollover advice on the "Think Tank" forum, a more sophisticated outlet here. The OP was definitely looking for an alternative way to complete his RO than just grinding it out it with several small bets as you suggested. Whether it's viable to him or not, depending on his financial means, he deserves the best option possible regardless if he can utilize it.
    I doubt it. That does not really have anything to do with completing a rollover. That is beating bonus. Rollovers don't matter if you are using that strategy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    I doubt it. That does not really have anything to do with completing a rollover. That is beating bonus. Rollovers don't matter if you are using that strategy.
    I wouldn’t worry about it, Roger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HedgeHog View Post
    What are the odds a guy with $500 at just one Book requests rollover advice on the "Think Tank" forum, a more sophisticated outlet here. The OP was definitely looking for an alternative way to complete his RO than just grinding it out it with several small bets as you suggested. Whether it's viable to him or not, depending on his financial means, he deserves the best option possible regardless if he can utilize it.
    Your answer was the best answer, and no-one crapped on it. The OP has been a forum member for several years and has made several hundred posts. He's not a noob. However, his actual question was specific:

    "My question is do I go small bets and try to win by percentages or larger bets on favorites?"

    If he had $3000 available to offset an all-in, he either would have said so, or more likely would have done so without bothering to ask the question. Clearly $500 is a big deal to this guy as is getting as much of out of the book as possible. Your answer is correct, but it probably doesn't help.
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