[thetrinity]

Also if it turns out to not be racist they get away with false accusations.

Good point, it goes under the rug right away never to be mentioned again

[WireWire]

Nothing is going to come of this besides Flores never getting a NFL job again, it's something to talk about for a few days.

[pavyracer]

I would think Flores has proof of this, wouldn’t you? That’s a strong allegation to make even if it did happen if you can’t prove it. We saw the bill bellicheck messages but I didn’t see anything that can prove that yet.

Also, how dumb is bellicheck? Can’t use a cell phone or what?

He wouldn't file a lawsuit if he didn't have proof. Remember he has lawyers hired and they coached him on what to say in public based on the evidence they have. Gruden went down because they had evidence against him.

[Mike Huntertz]

on first day of Black History Month

When is White History Month? Did any whites accomplish things worth celebrating?

[pavyracer]

When is White History Month? Did any whites accomplish things worth celebrating?

It's all the other 11 months. When we talk about the forefathers who owned slaves and wrote the rules we have to follow today by excluding the enslaved people of having the same rights they voted for themselves.

[WireWire]

It's all the other 11 months. When we talk about the forefathers who owned slaves and wrote the rules we have to follow today by excluding the enslaved people of having the same rights they voted for themselves.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Bill Belichick staged that text to get back at the Giants.

[MoneyM1ke]

Everything's racist common sense doesn't exist anymore

[JIBBBY]

Everything's racist common sense doesn't exist anymore

Truth spoken!!

[bigtymer56]

Bill Belichick staged that text to get back at the Giants.

Bill when he got the idea to send that text:

[Bluehorseshoe]

Bill when he got the idea to send that text:

[stevenash]

Will teams be taking a knee during the anthem next season?

[Jeff_Black]

I guess Steven a smith was going crazy about Hackett going to Denver and Eric bienemy not getting a job. Umm, they are trying to get Aaron rodgers genius. Apparently he loves Hackett

Hard to tell with Bienemy having Andy Reid and Mahomes there. Kinda like Tom Brady having a QB coach. Read some time ago that teams are still put off by his checkered past and off-field issues.

[Jeff_Black]

Nothing is going to come of this besides Flores never getting a NFL job again, it's something to talk about for a few days.

I almost have no doubt some of his players might speak. It'd be interesting to know if any of them do anonymously, and what they really think. It's no secret he did not get along with Minkah Fitzpatrick, and whether other players did not like him remains to be seen but people do talk about it.

[risKingDigits]

If he puts a skirt on Biden has a SCOTUS job for him.

[Yulia74]

tank for tua

$100k to lose

pete rose wants to know how much was he betting against losses?

[Demonata]

Black history month and BET and everything is racist. Yet black people are allowed to own slaves in africa currently. Tired of this shit.

[TheMoneyShot]

For some reason... I just don't believe the texts are real. Bill Belichick seems like a guy that keeps to himself. I don't even see him as a "texter". Very strange.

[Yulia74]

tanking for games is not new, all teams do it

nfl owners wont investigate one of their own, believe me

what if flores was betting on the games?

[floki]

tanking for games is not new, all teams do it

nfl owners wont investigate one of their own, believe me

what if flores was betting on the games?

Gruden and Snyder say they won't

[floki]

$100k per game thats $1,100,000, check his bank records

fuking snitch

[Yulia74]

Goodall should make him turn over his cell phone

[MinnesotaFats]

[daneblazer]

My take on the whole thing:

The Miami stuff is shady and would be hard to make up. That’s a huge reach that it was racial discrimination though.

The giants thing is a bit different. They interviewed their black candidates. They interviewed daboll. They liked daboll the best. Flores hadn’t interviewed yet. Why even bring him in for a show interview if you don’t have to do it?

Once again, no fan base is going to be happy bringing in a retread that didn’t even make the playoffs his whole career the same year he got fired. Flores was not going to get a job this time around. It was media driven nonsense like always. He was going to have to go back through the system a few years and then would have gotten another shot.

they still “had” to interview Flores.

Jan. 11 (Tue) – Giants fire Joe Judge as head coach
Jan. 21 (Fri) – Bills assistant GM Joe Schoen hired as GM
Jan. 21 (Fri) – Bills OC Brian Daboll interviews with Schoen and Giants’ co-owners via teleconference
Jan. 22 (Sat) – Bills DC Leslie Frazier interviews via teleconference
Jan. 23 (Sun) – Bengals DC Lou Anarumo interviews via teleconference
Jan. 23 (Sun) – Daboll and Frazier’s Buffalo Bills eliminated from playoffs
Jan. 24 (Mon) – Cowboys DC Dan Quinn interviews in-person. Giants’ first in-person interview for the job.
Jan. 25 (Tue) – Brian Daboll receives second interview. Interview occurs in-person
*Brian Flores receives text messages from Bill Belichickcongratulating him on becoming next Giants coach even though Flores has not had his interview yet. Belichick’s text messages were intended for Daboll.*
Jan. 26 (Wed) – Giants DC Patrick Graham interviews. Does not satisfy Rooney Rule since in-house candidate
Jan. 26 (Wed) – Ex-Dolphins HC Brian Flores has dinner with Schoen
Jan. 27 (Thu) – Brian Flores interviews (satisfies Rooney Rule because it is in-person with someone outside organization)
Jan. 27 (Thu) – Dan Quinn announces he is remaining as Cowboys DC
Jan. 28 (Fri) – Leslie Frazier gets second interview, this time in-person, also satisfying Rooney Rule
Jan. 28 (Fri) – Daboll hired as head coach

[Mac4Lyfe]

My take on the whole thing:

The Miami stuff is shady and would be hard to make up. That’s a huge reach that it was racial discrimination though.

The giants thing is a bit different. They interviewed their black candidates. They interviewed daboll. They liked daboll the best. Flores hadn’t interviewed yet. Why even bring him in for a show interview if you don’t have to do it?

Once again, no fan base is going to be happy bringing in a retread that didn’t even make the playoffs his whole career the same year he got fired. Flores was not going to get a job this time around. It was media driven nonsense like always. He was going to have to go back through the system a few years and then would have gotten another shot.

Would the Dolphins owner expect a white coach to tank too? Probably, but then that opens up another bag of worms. So you told him to tank and he happens to be black. So that you could purposely hurt his coaching record? Then you fired him because he didn't comply?

The Giants thing is huge. They didn't even give him a fair shot because they already hired another guy. So if they didn't give him a real shot, what makes you think they gave the other black candidates a shot too? Why did they like Daboll? Based on an INTERVIEW? Certainly not based on his coaching record nor Flores' record.

Fan base doing the hiring of coaches now? That would be a horrible excuse for not hiring someone. Plus, Flores was probably the hottest coaching name. Should I bump several threads in this forum that everyone questioned his firing and assumed he would be rehired as a HC immediately? What black coach got fired, went back through the system a few years and then go another shot???

[Mac4Lyfe]

Yep, racist, race baiting, misogynistic, homophobic, xenophobic
The effect of that is that when something actually is one of those things, it gets lumped with all the other nonsense.

You are totally sick in the head if you can honestly think that the good old boy NFL rich boy club is not all of the above???


The players have been predominantly black for 50 years and you can count the black head coaches on both hands. I'll have to ask you to think about that for a minute because I'm sure you probably think that number is perfectly fine in the last 50 years but shouldn't that be the number in ONE normal year??? Don't get me started on Hispanics, Asians, women, etc. I know you don't think they can do a good job, so why do I even bother.

[daneblazer]

Giants probably just lose a pick. They’ll be ok. Question is do more coaches come forward?

dolphins may be fukked. They’ll probably take the fall.

[Mac4Lyfe]

they still “had” to interview Flores.

Jan. 11 (Tue) – Giants fire Joe Judge as head coach
Jan. 21 (Fri) – Bills assistant GM Joe Schoen hired as GM
Jan. 21 (Fri) – Bills OC Brian Daboll interviews with Schoen and Giants’ co-owners via teleconference
Jan. 22 (Sat) – Bills DC Leslie Frazier interviews via teleconference
Jan. 23 (Sun) – Bengals DC Lou Anarumo interviews via teleconference
Jan. 23 (Sun) – Daboll and Frazier’s Buffalo Bills eliminated from playoffs
Jan. 24 (Mon) – Cowboys DC Dan Quinn interviews in-person. Giants’ first in-person interview for the job.
Jan. 25 (Tue) – Brian Daboll receives second interview. Interview occurs in-person
*Brian Flores receives text messages from Bill Belichickcongratulating him on becoming next Giants coach even though Flores has not had his interview yet. Belichick’s text messages were intended for Daboll.*
Jan. 26 (Wed) – Giants DC Patrick Graham interviews. Does not satisfy Rooney Rule since in-house candidate
Jan. 26 (Wed) – Ex-Dolphins HC Brian Flores has dinner with Schoen
Jan. 27 (Thu) – Brian Flores interviews (satisfies Rooney Rule because it is in-person with someone outside organization)
Jan. 27 (Thu) – Dan Quinn announces he is remaining as Cowboys DC
Jan. 28 (Fri) – Leslie Frazier gets second interview, this time in-person, also satisfying Rooney Rule
Jan. 28 (Fri) – Daboll hired as head coach

Wow, so the Giants hired Daboll without actually interviewing a black candidate. Belichek really fukked them over.

[unde0087]

[daneblazer]

You are totally sick in the head if you can honestly think that the good old boy NFL rich boy club is not all of the above???


The players have been predominantly black for 50 years and you can count the black head coaches on both hands. I'll have to ask you to think about that for a minute because I'm sure you probably think that number is perfectly fine in the last 50 years but shouldn't that be the number in ONE normal year??? Don't get me started on Hispanics, Asians, women, etc. I know you don't think they can do a good job, so why do I even bother.

NFL could do a better job of getting coaches in the door. There’s limited spots each year and many black coaches or just coaches will go to college or even high school which pays well these days and you can impact the community.

[Mac4Lyfe]

NFL could do a better job of getting coaches in the door. There’s limited spots each year and many black coaches or just coaches will go to college or even high school which pays well these days and you can impact the community.

College and High school are both just as bad. There's like 10 in college. What's so crazy is how many coaches can fukk up and still keep getting gigs. How the fukk is Kliff Kingsbury a head coach at ANY level? Who the fukk did Freddie Kitchens get a head coaching job? You have to be very disingenuous if you don't think the NFL doesn't stink in this area.

[Demonata]

The left will love to be on brain flores side no matter what the outcome. They love to make everything racist. They are not happy unless something might be racist.

[Mac4Lyfe]

The left will love to be on brain flores side no matter what the outcome. They love to make everything racist. They are not happy unless something might be racist.

Demon - please explain to me

1) How in 50 years the NFL has only hired 10 black head coaches

2) How does the Giants already hire a guy and then interviews 3 black guys AFTER the FACT?

3) How does Brian Flores get fired for having a 2 year winning record and winning 8 of his last 9 games?

What does any of the above have to do with Left/Right, Dem/Repub? What side are you on? Very strange that you can't even afford a nice hotel, was on unemployment, cashed stimulus checks but you always side with the rich folks in these matters. Do you hate yourself that much? You are not in their club.

[Mac4Lyfe]

There is not one instance, I could think of, where black management is or could be good for a business.

Herman Cain turned around several fledgling companies. He was great for a bunch of businesses. Not too smart going to super spreader events though.

[TheMoneyShot]

Somehow I think there are a lot of holes to this story. Sounds like an attorney just trying to get rich.