[opie1988]

We are beyond excited for this next chapter. SBR remains dedicated to leading, not following.

Let’s go boys. What a time to be alive.

[BIGDAY]

Opie gets it. It’s party time!

[jjgold]

We are beyond excited for this next chapter. SBR remains dedicated to leading, not following.

Let’s go boys. What a time to be alive.

wow OPIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Roger T. Bannon]

I am back in New Jersey. Using SBR Odds is like using a pirated odds service.

[ReubinSPolardy]

If anyone knows of a similar site that offers LIVE odds from Heritage, BetOnline, YouWager, BetCris, BookMaker etc.... Who cares about Fanduel or Draftking odds? Their odds are crap. Twenty cent or worse MLB lines.

It looks like SBR removed every sportsbook that US players can use (Which is why Pinny is still up).

The main reason to use SBR and come here every day with the site up all day was for the ability to choose and list in order the sportsbooks you deem as valuable for live odds information. An extremely valuable tool for sports handicapping.

[carolinakid]

^^^^^^^^^ what i laugh at today, all those books had a a+ rating and over night now since people are drinking the usa books kool aid they are crap.again money talk and that what it is all about, those good offshore books today are just as great as they was 3 days ago

[ReubinSPolardy]

Can you list the offshore odds for entertainment purposes only please? Reading numbers is how I make money in this business, not knowing 5 people on the Milwaukee Brewers roster.

Having access to LIVE Odds from Sportbooks you deem as helpful is a tremendous tool.

This article states "Detailed live odds from the top U.S.-regulated sportsbooks" Here is what is going on and why SBR will wipe out all references to the offshore books that US players have access to actually play with:

You've seen DK and FD lines on all sports. Their lines suck. Super juiced and impossible to win long term. PlLayers don't have a chance. Last night ALDS

FD
BOS +132
HOU -153

Heritage
BOS +138
HOU -148

Where would you open an account? Also in today's world money goes back and forth between offshore and the US via crypto. It's now so easy to pay and get paid.

So FD and DK don't want the competition. They don't want their dumbass commercial watching US based noobs finding out on SBR and other sites showing just what real odds look like from the offshore books.

DK and FD don't want that and SBR is being offered something $ or maybe being coerced into becoming a site that doesn't directly or indirectly support the offshore books.

That's my speculation

[Fishhead]

if anyone knows of a similar site that offers live odds from heritage, betonline, youwager, betcris, bookmaker etc.... Who cares about fanduel or draftking odds? Their odds are crap. Twenty cent or worse mlb lines.

it looks like sbr removed every sportsbook that us players can use (which is why pinny is still up).

The main reason to use sbr and come here every day with the site up all day was for the ability to choose and list in order the sportsbooks you deem as valuable for live odds information. An extremely valuable tool for sports handicapping.

don best mobile
real time odds

$50 a month

[gshock1]

Just awful. I live in NJ and use Bookmaker and Heritage because they have great odds, fast payouts and accept high limits. I used to have BOL, but they stopped servicing NJ.

2 years ago i signed up with various US books in NJ and got limited to $25 real fast after i went on a sick run. These are marketing shops that cater to the recreational bettor and don't like winners. Bookmaker has never limited me.

This is a sad day.

[Fishhead]

USA BOOKS outside of Nevada good for sweatshirts and $5 freeplays.........offshore and credit shops 50x better.

[Fishhead]

Just awful. I live in NJ and use Bookmaker and Heritage because they have great odds, fast payouts and accept high limits. I used to have BOL, but they stopped servicing NJ.

2 years ago i signed up with various US books in NJ and got limited to $25 real fast after i went on a sick run. These are marketing shops that cater to the recreational bettor and don't like winners. Bookmaker has never limited me.

This is a sad day.

Why would what SBR does dictate how you feel?????????????

[gauchojake]

Look if you want the sweet money that comes with usa books, you stop pimping offshore. When the pick six contest is for 250k next year we will drink the Kool aid too.

[carolinakid]

Fish we have talk about this, it will be so easy watching your money in the american books from the government, nope i rather use a back in the day bookie than being track like that, when i want to make money and have fun too, i dont want the government or politics in my sports

[gshock1]

Why would what SBR does dictate how you feel?????????????

Because SBR will focus exclusively on US based books. The point is, we need SBR as advocates for the player in case things go bad with any offshore outlets. Their focus seems to be exclusive to the us market.

[Fishhead]

Because SBR will focus exclusively on US based books. The point is, we need SBR as advocates for the player in case things go bad with any offshore outlets. Their focus seems to be exclusive to the us market.

Ya, I hear ya, hurts a tad in that regard.

But there are probably not more than 10 offshore OUTS a USA citizen should be using anyway.............and usually none of those have a problem, at least not with me in the past 10 years using them.

[Fishhead]

Ya, I hear ya, hurts a tad in that regard.

But there are probably not more than 10 offshore OUTS a USA citizen should be using anyway.............and usually none of those have a problem, at least not with me in the past 10 years using them.

If you have any problems with HERITAGE, BOOKMAKER/CRIS, BETONLINE ............shoot me a PM, I would be willing to assist you.

[gauchojake]

Will Loshak be hired back?????

[carolinakid]

i will 2nd Fish too, i will be willing to help too, as over the yrs i do have a little pull in those outs too

[gshock1]

Ya, I hear ya, hurts a tad in that regard.

But there are probably not more than 10 offshore OUTS a USA citizen should be using anyway.............and usually none of those have a problem, at least not with me in the past 10 years using them.

5dimes 2 years ago stopped servicing US. At the time of announcement i had $35k in there. SBR was here for us and ensured we got paid. You never know what can happen.

Personally, i can't play at shops for only $25:- 50 a bet. It's not worth my time & effort.

[gshock1]

If you have any problems with HERITAGE, BOOKMAKER/CRIS, BETONLINE ............shoot me a PM, I would be willing to assist you.

Will do

[goduke]

Not zero but close. Without a pinnacle opener and Betonline etc there is literally no point.

i thought the odds area was just malfunctioning but having pinnacle and 5dimes odds available has prove very helpful over the years because of how they correlate their movements. Without the odds page I dont have a reason to visit this site and the forum.

[carolinakid]

hey goduke Cameron was crazy last night 1st time back for the fans in 18 months, did you watch any of it on the acc channel

[goduke]

hey goduke Cameron was crazy last night 1st time back for the fans in 18 months, did you watch any of it on the acc channel

I didnt get a chance to. I was mainly watching sox/astros and the oregon ducks game. I will have to check it though, thanks!

[carolinakid]

it was fun, i have some great pics and vids from last night

[Fishhead]

Some may not like some things at Heritage or Cris.................but they are safer than your bank.

[jjgold]

Some may not like some things at Heritage or Cris.................but they are safer than your bank.

yes

I will be diversifying funds next week

[ReubinSPolardy]

If you really think about if there was not much discussion about offshore Sportsbooks the last year other than the sub forum

More people were talking about USA books

More people are talking about US books because they are new, offer crappy lines, allow some pretty exotic parlay combos and have crappy lines and procedures.

People are not talking all that much about offshore because they are tried and true, stable, great lines and odds and now they are accepting and paying in crypto, so moving money back and forth, the Achilles heal of offshore for so long, no longer exists.

What's there to talk about?

[BrigadierPudding]

My question is why not also keep the Pinnacle column?

[newton0038]

men plenty of sources for offshore odds

be diverse

be smart

It will be my new phrase moving forward

smrt

[ReubinSPolardy]

During MLB pre season I was chasing steam on DK and winning pretty much all of my USD$100-$200 bets, about 2-3 a day. Suddenly they are not able to locate me, citing a geo locator problem with my computer. Which is a total lie. They cut me off and I won only less than 6K. But they didn't say they cut me off.

Their tech support kept telling me to clear cache and cookies, blah blah blah. But taking my laptop to my next door neighbor's and having him log in on my laptop he gets into his DK account.

In my house, 10 yards away, on my laptop I get into a NJ Racebook and Fanduel with no problem. Same thing with my phone. Same thing with a brand new desktop, out of the box WIN 10, no software loaded.

I can access Fanduel no problem but DK no. Their "Problem with your account - we can't locate you" kicks in after I log in.

My point is not to complain about not being able to play with DK, their lines suck, but it's good to have another out.

My point is DK and FD and all the other US books don't want sharp action, don't want serious players. They want the weekend casual losers who will just lose. Vegas and offshore want the same thing, yes, but not like DK and FD and the others.

Look at every US "approved" sportsbook and see their lines and odds. It's clear that they only want un educated gamblers, their lines are that insulting and mathematically offer a negative edge to the player - you're better off playing a table game in a casino. Casual bettors will never figure that out.

Sharp sports bettors having good money management, discipline and a decent model can grind out long term wins. But not with the lines and spreads offered by the likes of FD and DK.

And now SBR has jumped on that bandwagon. The amt of $ FD and DK clean up due to stoopid public bettors allows them to spend millions on TV commercials. Now a sliver of that money bought out SBR.

SBR will become a place for square casual bettors.

[newton0038]

Interesting. No use for us Canadians I guess.

And I'm sure any regulated book either USA, Canada, Europe...etc will tell any internet rag ( in this case SBR) to fuk off when it comes to complaints as they have zero give a shit for any complaints. Ontario only recourse is the AGCO and I'm still waiting on my cashout complaints at Proline+. NO confirmation when you "cashout" of a bet, it kills the bet and pays you 45% of original value if the game has yet to start. I hit the fukin button by mistake and i am still furious with that horseshit.

[Microphone]

no its just beginning Son wait and see

Lol love all the over reaction the sky is falling...

SBR took away the odds page people care about and changed their whole mission statement and to date only offered a fluff explanation of what to expect to it's paying membership.

Don't let the moon hit you on it's way down you chameleon.

[jjgold]

Love the move

If you can’t find odds you’re not too bright and shouldn’t even be Gambling I mean give it up right now eighth graders can do it

[Fishhead]

Love the move

If you can’t find odds you’re not too bright and shouldn’t even be Gambling I mean give it up right now eighth graders can do it

[Ghenghis Kahn]

Fish we have talk about this, it will be so easy watching your money in the american books from the government, nope i rather use a back in the day bookie than being track like that, when i want to make money and have fun too, i dont want the government or politics in my sports

Yeah but most on SBR are deposit only so this doesn't apply to them.