1. 10-14-21 10:45 PM #36
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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoler View Post
    if u make it which they did and get a stop u can win with a td
    basically... let's not have to score again JUST to get to OT and rely on having to win again in OT being the inferior team
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  2. 10-14-21 10:45 PM #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Go fukk yourself you retarded idiot. Where did I say it was rigged moron?
    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    Morino is lost again. What a weirdo. I think laker is just explaining what the line move was
    The line movement zero and it wasn't rigged. The eagles got destroyed and had no business covering you dumb shits. I won my bet for the first half, Tampa Bay was the obvious right side.
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  3. 10-14-21 10:46 PM #38
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    Like other posters have said going for two there was not a legitimate football play.

    It was a complete mockery.
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  4. 10-14-21 10:47 PM #39
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    basically... let's not have to score again JUST to get to OT and rely on having to win again in OT being the inferior team
    and think how extra motivated your team is on both sides of the ball down 6 as opposed to 7
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  5. 10-14-21 10:48 PM #40
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    Morino is lost again. What a weirdo. I think laker is just explaining what the line move was
    Guy is clueless it's sad. He doesn't even know what I'm talking about. He won his first hf bet though. That has so much to do with this thread I guess. Books were juggling around the 6.5-7.5 range.
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  6. 10-14-21 10:52 PM #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Guy is clueless it's sad. He doesn't even know what I'm talking about. He won his first hf bet though. That has so much to do with this thread I guess. Books were juggling around the 6.5-7.5 range.
    The line movement meant nothing just as I said, you are a dumb shit.
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  7. 10-14-21 10:55 PM #42
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Guy is clueless it's sad. He doesn't even know what I'm talking about. He won his first hf bet though. That has so much to do with this thread I guess. Books were juggling around the 6.5-7.5 range.
    Guy is really an idiot. As if math and analytics looks at tb run defense. It’s all math and numbers. What is he talking about? The Eagles are throwing on the 2pt attempt anyway…. Not running. I swear he has some sort of imbalance.

    Yeah…. I had a bunch of different numbers. Straight bets I had 6.5 and 7. I played a few parlays with under in baseball and bought it to 7.5. But it was bouncing around to 6.5 -7.5
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  8. 10-14-21 10:55 PM #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackisback View Post
    Anyone who thinks NFL games are not rigged are the same people who think joe biden won.
    See this…..this is the kinda dummy that should never bet.
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  9. 10-14-21 10:56 PM #44
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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    The line movement meant nothing just as I said, you are a dumb shit.
    Nobody is saying it meant anything you dumb fuxck. Jesus you are a retard.
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  10. 10-14-21 11:04 PM #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    Nobody is saying it meant anything you dumb fuxck. Jesus you are a retard.
    Mind boggling. It has to be on purpose. These types should not be allowed to leave the house. Then again the basement door is probably made of steel and welded in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Mind boggling. It has to be on purpose. These types should not be allowed to leave the house. Then again the basement door is probably made of steel and welded in.
    No question. He doesn’t get out much. He’s got some serious problems. Being -470 units is the least of them.
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  12. 10-14-21 11:06 PM #47
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackisback View Post
    You must be excited Santa Claus is coming soon. More fairy tales you believe in.
    Let’s see jackisback. Who were you about a month ago? 11 posts huh…..
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  13. 10-14-21 11:07 PM #48
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    Going for 2 was correct.
    Kneeling was correct.
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  14. 10-14-21 11:09 PM #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by semibluff View Post
    Going for 2 was correct.
    Kneeling was correct.
    Yup
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  15. 10-14-21 11:10 PM #50
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    Why was going for 2 correct???
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  16. 10-14-21 11:12 PM #51
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    this thread is amazing
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  17. 10-14-21 11:15 PM #52
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seaweed View Post
    Why was going for 2 correct???

    https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/players-talk/3677681-bucs-eagles-mnf-game-discussion-p4.html#post30590861
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  18. 10-15-21 12:48 AM #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post

    Guy is really an idiot. As if math and analytics looks at tb run defense. It’s all math and numbers. What is he talking about? The Eagles are throwing on the 2pt attempt anyway…. Not running. I swear he has some sort of imbalance.

    Yeah…. I had a bunch of different numbers. Straight bets I had 6.5 and 7. I played a few parlays with under in baseball and bought it to 7.5. But it was bouncing around to 6.5 -7.5
    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post

    Mind boggling. It has to be on purpose. These types should not be allowed to leave the house. Then again the basement door is probably made of steel and welded in.
    Dumb shits
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  19. 10-15-21 02:07 AM #54
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    No way Vegas wanted this game to end on 7. Too many refunds. Philly told to go for the 2pt conversion.... make it 6 point game... miss it 8 point game... Clearly that's why they went for it. Still a rig job either way. No way they go for 2 points any other circumstance.
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  20. 10-15-21 02:43 AM #55
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    e    dit
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  21. 10-15-21 04:15 AM #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR225 View Post
    Taking the knee at the 5 is to be expected. I don't get going for 2 when an extra point makes it a 7 point game.
    Math
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  22. 10-15-21 04:18 AM #57
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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post


    Going for 2 down 8 points: Why NFL teams keep doing it, and why analytics backs them up


    https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/28100383/going-2-8-points-why-nfl-teams-keep-doing-why-analytics-backs-up
    It's simple math its unreal how people don't grasp it STILL!
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  23. 10-15-21 06:36 AM #58
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    some people are seriously not understanding why they went for the 2 point conversion? LOL. the teams do not matter. you're basically going to have a 50/50 shot. common sense will tell you if you get it the first time, you put yourself in position for the win. if you fail, the odds are in your favor to still convert and tie if you score again.

    if you don't want to go to OT, especially if you're the underdog, it's the best option.
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  24. 10-15-21 07:16 AM #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by WireWire View Post
    It's simple math its unreal how people don't grasp it STILL!
    If it's simple math then why if a team is down by 14 are they still kicking XP instead of going for 2?

    The math is a an excuse. These teams aren't always trying to win. They know the damn point spread before and during the game. Don't think for a second these coaches don't make decisions that affects the number.

    I was on Eagles but the game was fishy as hell.
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  25. 10-15-21 07:26 AM #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by EmpireMaker View Post
    There is ZERO reason to go for 2 there. 100% fixed.
    The reason to go for 2, is because it increases their chance of winning. This only would have been evidence of a fix if they did not go for 2.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two-po...-point_attempt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintsfan1977 View Post
    If it's simple math then why if a team is down by 14 are they still kicking XP instead of going for 2
    If a team is down 8 points, the difference between getting it to 6 compared to 7 is greater than the difference between 7 and 8. That is why the Eagles went for 2 when they were down by 8.

    If a team is down 14, the difference between 12 and 13 is smaller than the difference between 13 and 14. That is why teams go for 1 when they are down 14.
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  27. 10-15-21 07:38 AM #62
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    A lesson I learned a LONG time ago, never bet prime time favorites. Yes the games are fixed but only the isolated games. If you want to lay points go with a college mid day game or a 1pm Sunday game
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  28. 10-15-21 07:41 AM #63
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    There is a reason you bet live. When Eagles hit +18.5 in the 3rd quarter you unload on them and don't worry about the -6.5 Buccs anymore. Be smart or be bankrupt.
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  29. 10-15-21 07:41 AM #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Day Game 216 View Post
    A lesson I learned a LONG time ago, never bet prime time favorites. Yes the games are fixed but only the isolated games. If you want to lay points go with a college mid day game or a 1pm Sunday game
    Ahhh okay. I did not know this. Thanks man.
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  30. 10-15-21 07:48 AM #65
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    If a team is down 8 points, the difference between getting it to 6 compared to 7 is greater than the difference between 7 and 8. That is why the Eagles went for 2 when they were down by 8.

    If a team is down 14, the difference between 12 and 13 is smaller than the difference between 13 and 14. That is why teams go for 1 when they are down 14.
    No. You can use all the math you want but the decision was made for Eagles to cover. It's never consistent on the decision to go for 2. The shit is fake and I won my bet. Not because I thought it would it would happen like this, but because it was the right side. Vegas needed Eagles and low and behold weird shit happens so the game lands on 6.

    Math my ass. The only math you need to know in this game is money.
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  31. 10-15-21 07:51 AM #66
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    Absolutely there is manipulation in all sports, for whatever reasons, happens day in and day out! you don't have to be a full blown conspiracy theorist to say wtf just happened, whether or not this was one of those games is debatable, the 2pt try is debatable, but Brady throwing on 3rd down with 2 minutes left is the real head scratcher, that one kept me up late, just makes sense to run the ball one time, kick the field goal and viola game over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DR225 View Post
    Taking the knee at the 5 is to be expected. I don't get going for 2 when an extra point makes it a 7 point game.
    Analytics say to go for 2 when you are down 14 in the 4th and score a td because there’s a 50 percent chance you will achieve the 2 point conversion so you set yourself up to go for the lead on the last td if you hit the 2 first
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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    Ahhh okay. I did not know this. Thanks man.
    I believe you did know that, never seen you pick a prime time fave
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolverine88 View Post
    Absolutely there is manipulation in all sports, for whatever reasons, happens day in and day out! you don't have to be a full blown conspiracy theorist to say wtf just happened, whether or not this was one of those games is debatable, the 2pt try is debatable, but Brady throwing on 3rd down with 2 minutes left is the real head scratcher, that one kept me up late, just makes sense to run the ball one time, kick the field goal and viola game over.
    I know the feeling bro, it’s all good. It just means you care
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saintsfan1977 View Post
    No. You can use all the math you want but the decision was made for Eagles to cover. It's never consistent on the decision to go for 2. The shit is fake and I won my bet. Not because I thought it would it would happen like this, but because it was the right side. Vegas needed Eagles and low and behold weird shit happens so the game lands on 6.

    Math my ass. The only math you need to know in this game is money.
    This is hilarious. You agree that going for 2 was the correct decision to give the Eagles the best chance of winning. But you insist that the reason they went for 2 had nothing to do with trying to win the game and was only about covering 7 points.
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