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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I am the smartest guy here x10
    sure you are

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    Quote Originally Posted by firedawg View Post
    sure you are
    Just ask him, he'll tell ya,

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    Quote Originally Posted by las8 View Post
    Trust me I am familiar with the bald, small cawk hamburger. He has been a legal book hater so I am wondering who is posting this shift.

    I am a DK VIP. First NFL weekend 25% deposit match got me $2500 in free plays, next week I don't remember the promo but got another $1200 free plays, next week $100 free plays for every $1000 wagered up to $1500 in FP, last week 25% deposit match up to $2000 in DK dollars I needed to wager $40,000 to get the full but I got that easily by Saturday evening. All 1x RO not this BS 10-20x. These books are scrambling to get customers I have hit every one in my state for the sign up promo. Since MGM stopped giving me several 100% deposit matches, they gave me at least $8k in money not FPs over 6-7 months, a few months ago DK is by far the best. I keep a little money on other books for the +75 TB week one or whatever free money they like to give out. I am glad you have come to your senses baldy. As I stated earlier, these books are doing whatever they can to get our business. As you know most people are losers. So they will eventually give it all back and then some.
    I love everything DK.
    Been a FD and DK DFS advocate from the get go.
    In the early days when I spoke to one of the execs about the DFS juice being steep, he actually listened.

    Their US home base is in Boston, would love to land a gig in their IT department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I am the smartest guy here x10
    Might wanna tell skippy about that..

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I love everything DK.
    Been a FD and DK DFS advocate from the get go.
    In the early days when I spoke to one of the execs about the DFS juice being steep, he actually listened.

    Their US home base is in Boston, would love to land a gig in their IT department.
    I guess I'm still DK VIP, although I get fewer offers than I used to. They used to text me offers and shitt. But sometimes good ones still come out of the blue. Like first NFL weekend they had a weekend (4 days) with 5 DK Dollars for every 100 wagered (on anything) -- up to $5k bonus! Needless to say, I maxed that shitt out.

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    I've been saying for some time, when the books have to compete for business, it becomes very good for us players.

    We are just at the beginning, there is opportunity again to both grow bankrolls and outs.

    This opportunity is not going away soon, there plenty of room for the industry to grow as well.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I've been saying for some time, when the books have to compete for business, it becomes very good for us players.

    We are just at the beginning, there is opportunity again to both grow bankrolls and outs.

    This opportunity is not going away soon, there plenty of room for the industry to grow as well.

    It's a beautiful thing. Strike while the irons are hot and dance the dance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    and dance the dance.


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    Vegas books never had a chance. They wanted to stay in 1976. They had no idea what to do when legalization happened and still don't. All they can do is buy up operations that know how to run an online book. That is all they will ever be able to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    Vegas books never had a chance. They wanted to stay in 1976. They had no idea what to do when legalization happened and still don't. All they can do is buy up operations that know how to run an online book. That is all they will ever be able to do.
    If some of the brick and mortar Vegas casino execs had it there way they would use the square footage the sports book use up and put in slot machines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    If some of the brick and mortar Vegas casino execs had it there way they would use the square footage the sports book use up and put in slot machines.
    They are probably right about that actually. Not much money to be made in sports betting from a major company point of view. But for a DraftKings, it is big deal. The major companies really just want it for branding. They don't care about booking at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    It's a beautiful thing. Strike while the irons are hot and dance the dance.
    I can't emphasize enough. It's a chance to not just grow your bankroll overall, but it's an excellent chance to grow horizontally too. An excellent chance to grow your outs with all kinds of boosts. Running a tall business can be costly in the end, in my opinion, so you have to spread that heighth out, then grow it tall again.

    That's how you build in this business, and right now, with books competing for anyone, you can sneak in everywhere, with bonuses to boot.

    Not going to lie, I think it's a good time again and I think it lasts. How may states have legalized already? With plenty to come moving forward.

    It's a time for growth.



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    Vegas fukked up

    Here comes draftkings and fandual

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    I can't emphasize enough. It's a chance to not just grow your bankroll overall, but it's an excellent chance to grow horizontally too. An excellent chance to grow your outs with all kinds of boosts. Running a tall business can be costly in the end, in my opinion, so you have to spread that heighth out, then grow it tall again.

    That's how you build in this business, and right now, with books competing for anyone, you can sneak in everywhere, with bonuses to boot.

    Not going to lie, I think it's a good time again and I think it lasts. How may states have legalized already? With plenty to come moving forward.

    It's a time for growth.


    In Illinois we have 6, but I'm basically down to 3 that will book me. I want moar!

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    I’d go BetRivers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KiDBaZkiT View Post
    I’d go BetRivers.
    Clown limits.

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    they better offer 5k promo like ceasars

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    I'm not signing up with one of these books until offshore is completely dead. Don't know why any of you guys would release your SSN to these people. You guys apparently want to be on the radar forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Does that matter to us, the players? My thought is they are more willing to take losses now, so get em while the getting is good. Draftkings currently is willing to take a beating. I like it. Hopefully it lasts.
    The question is why trobin thought it mattered. Hmmm

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I'm not signing up with one of these books until offshore is completely dead. Don't know why any of you guys would release your SSN to these people. You guys apparently want to be on the radar forever.
    You live a paranoid existence bro. You think you aren't being tracked and followed day and night as it is? Lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    I'm not signing up with one of these books until offshore is completely dead. Don't know why any of you guys would release your SSN to these people. You guys apparently want to be on the radar forever.
    I pay my taxes. Who cares.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    You live a paranoid existence bro. You think you aren't being tracked and followed day and night as it is? Lmao
    Yeah... but you have no fu##ing defense when you intentionally sign up and log into that said "sportsbook". Again... you're asking for trouble come tax time. Have fun with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    I pay my taxes. Who cares.
    Yeah... that simple right??? You guys are all big shots aren't you. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I do give credit to where it is due

    Some of these big boys books (Fandual and MGM) really out shining everyone

    Odds of course not great but everything else they are the leaders of sports betting worldwide now

    I still only bet +EV promos but whoever runs these places are geniuses

    Vegas books are all worried its over for them when Drafktkings and Fandual come they proven they dominate every state. I hear all the VSIN guys say the same thing that players are going to bolt the traditional dinosaur vegas books and go to the wave of the future books that 90% of the market wants.
    SBR starting to promote USA based books?

    is draft kings legal in all 50 states for parlays?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day Game 216 View Post

    is draft kings legal in all 50 states for parlays?
    I've told you this 100 times in the past Big Bear, Google is your friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I've told you this 100 times in the past Big Bear, Google is your friend.

    how’s those White Sox and Brewers futures working out for ya?

    you mad bro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheMoneyShot View Post
    Yeah... but you have no fu##ing defense when you intentionally sign up and log into that said "sportsbook". Again... you're asking for trouble come tax time. Have fun with that.
    Not a huge concern...........but this guys posts in this thread should not be overlooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    In Illinois we have 6, but I'm basically down to 3 that will book me. I want moar!
    Rate your top three, thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Day Game 216 View Post
    how’s those White Sox and Brewers futures working out for ya?

    you mad bro?
    I'm always a happy fella.
    You're still an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Rate your top three, thanks in advance.
    For me currently:

    1. Draftkings
    2a. Fanduel
    2b. Will Hill/Caesar's

    4. Barstool
    5. Rivers
    6. Pointsbet

    My rankings are primarily based on being able to bet larger amounts without excessive delay, especially live including halftimes. Draftkings got a letter better a few months ago when they disconnected from Kambi.
    Last edited by d2bets; 10-13-21 at 08:25 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    I love everything DK.
    Been a FD and DK DFS advocate from the get go.
    In the early days when I spoke to one of the execs about the DFS juice being steep, he actually listened.

    Their US home base is in Boston, would love to land a gig in their IT department.
    They didn't listen for long. DFS has been unplayable for years. Almost nobody can beat that rake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusherrr View Post
    They didn't listen for long. DFS has been unplayable for years. Almost nobody can beat that rake.
    It's come down some.
    Used to be the rake of most games were around 18 percent.
    Now, if you want to play the one dollar single entry baseball tourney tomorrow, the one conetest has 1189 player cap, prize pool guaranteed is 1000 dollars.

    Simple math says they bring in 1189, pay out 1000, keep 189.
    Yes vig is still high, but getting better.
    They know there's rake free DFS sites out there, but until their bottom line gets dinged by them they don't care all that much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stevenash View Post
    It's come down some.
    Used to be the rake of most games were around 18 percent.
    Now, if you want to play the one dollar single entry baseball tourney tomorrow, the one conetest has 1189 player cap, prize pool guaranteed is 1000 dollars.

    Simple math says they bring in 1189, pay out 1000, keep 189.
    Yes vig is still high, but getting better.
    They know there's rake free DFS sites out there, but until their bottom line gets dinged by them they don't care all that much.
    I played DFS for a living for several years. Was top 25 in NBA on Rotogrinders every year I played. Top 200? I think for NFL

    It may have come down, but that's only because so many players quit. Losers would lose way more in DFS than they would betting sports. But they were chasing that big prize. The winners margins are so small its not worth it unless you're putting in $10,000 in play per night. Even then it's not worth it IMO. Way too much variance. That's ultimately when I transitioned to sports betting instead. This shit is stress free compared to fantasy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Draftkings has in house lines now for the most part

    it is a good move away from the worst provider ever Kambi
    False

    Draftkings uses bulgarian provider SB TECH which is even worse

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    False

    Draftkings uses bulgarian provider SB TECH which is even worse
    Actually it's not false.

    Draftkings acquired and now owns SB TECH. So that essentially is in-house, although maybe there are some other books that also still use SB Tech? Not sure.

    And why do you think it's "even worse"? I've enjoyed playing against SB Tech. If nothing else, given that there are plenty of Kambi books, it's another option.

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