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    This is why you never throw a -10,000 in a parlay.

    I always thought this little midget rat bastard was a fixer but this is about as dirty as it gets playing for your country no less.




    His 2nd match ever:

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    what are the benefits of throwing it in? seems like that addition would add less than a sawbuck to most parlays

    if you want to throw it in a HUGH parlay do it. and then bet a lil sumthin on the ml dog just to get your money back

    then you can take NEVER out of your vocab

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    Fuk Doug.

    Fuk.


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    dougles

    can I buy that radar gun off you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    what are the benefits of throwing it in? seems like that addition would add less than a sawbuck to most parlays

    if you want to throw it in a HUGH parlay do it. and then bet a lil sumthin on the ml dog just to get your money back

    then you can take NEVER out of your vocab
    Agreed but the take back +1616 on a 10K fav. is so shitty it's hard to justify even taking the underdog at that price. The match was even on clay in Diego's home country, Argentina.
    Last edited by Doug tushyterror; 09-18-21 at 12:47 PM.

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    Would be fun to have a radar gun at a bash where everyone can step up.

    I'd probably throw my shoulder out of socket.

    Better yet, let's get JJ Gold in a dunk tank and we can just pitch balls a that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug tushyterror View Post
    Agreed but the take back +1616 on a a 10K fav...
    Un fukkin real.

    Fukkin tennis.


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    #8 cincy left tackle is having a BAD BAD day... to put it very mildly

    -10,000 that he gets beat again late in this game and is the direct result of Indiana hanging on to a win

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    Yeah, adding that to a parlay probably boosted the payout by 50 cents. Totally not worth it.

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    If it has a greater than 99% chance of winning, I will always throw in a -10,000 line to every bet I make. And my profits will increase. The only reason to not include a -10,000 number is if the chance of it winning is 99% or less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TommieGunshot View Post
    If it has a greater than 99% chance of winning, I will always throw in a -10,000 line to every bet I make. And my profits will increase. The only reason to not include a -10,000 number is if the chance of it winning is 99% or less.
    I know it sounds crazy to many, but this is the right thinking, even if we are talking about the ridiculous -10,000 price.

    The thinking shouldn't change because of the price, even if we commit a shit ton to vig.

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    but who has good models to spit out expected value on wins and losses at those far far far end of the the 99th percentile range? once you get past 97.3% you are entering into unchartered and largely market untested areas. It becomes more about lotto like variance.

    in any event, the potential profits are not worth it for me to go scrap and backtest all those numbers, while inputting the changing market scenarios

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    Davis cup??

    That's pure shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    but who has good models to spit out expected value on wins and losses at those far far far end of the the 99th percentile range? once you get past 97.3% you are entering into unchartered and largely market untested areas. It becomes more about lotto like variance
    The thinking should still be consistent no matter the price but yeah we are getting into prices that just aren't very practical for this type of stuff.

    The mistake many make is to arbitrarily pick a price cut off, which will likely cut off opportunity. I know it works for a lot of bettors, for example, to say "never buy a mlb line over -150" or something, but in the end that means leaving +EV on the table.

    Even up to -10000 the thinking should be the same, there isn't anything there to change the thinking, but there is definitely less to support it, like you are saying.

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    If I ever bet a -10,000 or even a -1,000. That’s the day I call it quits.

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    for Schwartzman to lose is bad. But on clay is even worse, his best surface.

    Embarrassing loss for your country

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    Wow Schwartzmen was 23% on second serve points won on his..Either this is tge ultimate of taking your opponent lighlty or hell
    Yeah your right doug.DEF SUPER FISHY!

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    Tsitsipas also lost as a big fav.

    Check Swartzy's betting accounts.

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    did otters bet this too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SamsNCharge99 View Post
    did otters bet this too?
    Sammy Otters has turned over a new leaf.

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    Shartzy just about done

    He had a little run for a while

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    Wow Schwartzmen was 23% on second serve points won on his..Either this is tge ultimate of taking your opponent lighlty or hell
    Yeah your right doug.DEF SUPER FISHY!
    Even this match is super fishy. Took Bergs to win the 2nd set against Hugo Dellien's brother who's never even played a Challenger match & it's a huge struggle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    The thinking should still be consistent no matter the price
    agreed

    I wouldn't ever "throw in" a +750 +100 -150 or -10,000

    I consistently won't throw in bets without the #'s being right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    agreed

    I wouldn't ever "throw in" a +750 +100 -150 or -10,000

    I consistently won't throw in bets without the #'s being right
    I don't know if you're serious about the radar gun Archie but I'm not the type who ever sells shit. If I need money I'll just try to hit a bet & cashout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    agreed

    I wouldn't ever "throw in" a +750 +100 -150 or -10,000

    I consistently won't throw in bets without the #'s being right
    There are mental factors too.

    Some bettors add the -10000 and if it loses they go on tilt, and for good reason in my opinion, I mean, shit...even on clay...shit...lol.

    It happens and those can be triggers for bettors likely to go on tilt or something similar.

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    Another one. -1429 prematch to +1400 live down 2-5 in the 3rd.



    Bergs won 3 Challengers this year & this guy has never even played above Futures. Shady as fukk
    Last edited by Doug tushyterror; 09-18-21 at 02:28 PM.

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    Doug who do you like tomorrow in the Clauson match?

    She is a young sensation

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Doug who do you like tomorrow in the Clauson match?

    She is a young sensation
    Gotta go with Clara Tauson, JJ. Only recent loss was to Barty & she even beat Raducanu. She'll make Ostapenko pay for all those unforced errors

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    God I cant stand Ostapenko.Shes a real
    biattch..That shit she pulled a wimbledon still
    Pisses me off..Between her faking and TSITIPAS bathroom breaks these young punks have no respect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug tushyterror View Post
    Another one. -1429 prematch to +1400 live down 2-5 in the 3rd.



    Bergs won 3 Challengers this year & this guy has never even played above Futures. Shady as fukk
    Lol hugo delliens brother..JESUS

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    Quote Originally Posted by beefcake View Post
    Lol hugo delliens brother..JESUS
    Dudes so broke he's begging for funding. If I was sharp enough to make some money off him today I would’ve chipped in.

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    I'm just glad I don't bet on Sabine Lisicki anymore. Every time I bet her she would lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Demonata View Post
    I'm just glad I don't bet on Sabine Lisicki anymore. Every time I bet her she would lose.
    She's been out with injuries since last year, who knows if she'll ever play again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug tushyterror View Post
    She's been out with injuries since last year, who knows if she'll ever play again.
    I think I mostly bet her because she was hot. Was tired of betting on ugly tennis players like schiavone haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug tushyterror View Post
    She's been out with injuries since last year, who knows if she'll ever play again.
    Shes never been the same since losing that Wimbledon final to Bartoli.All these years later im positive its still in her head and is part of the reason why,even with injuries as to why she never was the same.

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