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    Brady played through a torn MCL during the Superbowl Run.


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    Overrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Overrated
    You seem like a Peyton Manning guy having known you for 10 yrs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    You seem like a Peyton Manning guy having known you for 10 yrs.
    No. I think Fish is comparing to SLee. SLee says "Knee ligaments are optional. No excuses."

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    Most all Great players any sport overrated ......Brady great .....but he’s not best QB ever like some proclaim , much like MJ not best NBA player like some proclaim.

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    what a badass

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Most all Great players any sport overrated ......Brady great .....but he’s not best QB ever like some proclaim , much like MJ not best NBA player like some proclaim.
    Then who is the best qb ever?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Most all Great players any sport overrated ......Brady great .....but he’s not best QB ever like some proclaim , much like MJ not best NBA player like some proclaim.
    Lol he is the best ever and not close.

    He joined a loser team during Covid and led them to a superbowl win at 43 years of age.

    Please list one other QB who can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    Lol he is the best ever and not close.

    He joined a loser team during Covid and led them to a superbowl win at 43 years of age.

    Please list one other QB who can do that.
    yeah after adding every good target in the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    Then who is the best qb ever?
    Impossible to rate great alltime top 1-10 players in a team sport .......all great, leave it at that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    yeah after adding every good target in the league
    They already had most of them. Gronk said he would only play football if it is with Brady. Brady the only person in the world that can keep Antonio Brown in line.

    The best ever.

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    Imagine someone thinking MJ better than Wilt or Russell , lololololol.

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    Fans are very ignorant

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    yeah after adding every good target in the league
    And having the best d in the NFL

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    yeah after adding every good target in the league
    That's part of his greatness. He called those players on the phone. Gronk was retired. AB was living in Brady's house with him and his famiily. Fournette was about to be out of the league. That's what leaders do. People gravitate towards them. People don't mention this quality when assessing talent or skill, but that's a huge reason why you win world championships. Having that guy with that charisma and leadership and team mentality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    And having the best d in the NFL
    And they had the same defense last year, but never made the playoffs. What does that tell you?

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    I have Brady in my top ten

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    he doesn't have to move with his line holding all day and his D getting the ball back when he's garbage

    why is this news?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    And they had the same defense last year, but never made the playoffs. What does that tell you?
    They didn't though. It got better. Brady is great bro but let's not act like the bucks weren't stacked.

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    Brady great , it’s funny how the Brady dicksuckers get upset if you dare mention he mAy not be top three ............most of the them dicksucks

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    Arent all championship teams stacked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    They didn't though. It got better. Brady is great bro but let's not act like the bucks weren't stacked.
    True. Think even defensive guys came over cause of Brady. He made several phone calls. Ppl just love playing for/with him. Underrated part of greatness imo is recruitment and motivation, like when Kobe hung his gold medal in Pau Gasol's locker. Brady was basically the GM of the Bucs. He tried to do it with NE but Bellichick wouldn't give up the reigns. That's what Rodgers should be doing. But maybe he just doesn't have that natural ability.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Four33 View Post
    Arent all championship teams stacked?
    most , yes, spot on.

    What QB won SB with least talent ??......Namath??

    (and Namath may be worst QB in HOF)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishhead View Post
    Brady great , it’s funny how the Brady dicksuckers get upset if you dare mention he mAy not be top three ............most of the them dicksucks
    Well you'd have to put up a logical argument why he isn't top 3. In a sport where qbs are judged by rings, he has 7 and the next best has 4. So top 3 is not really a discussion. You can always argue the goat, and everyone gives their opinion, sure. But to say not top 3 would hurt your cause and most people, even non-Brady fans, would discount your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThaTopMoron View Post
    he doesn't have to move with his line holding all day and his D getting the ball back when he's garbage

    why is this news?
    Topper why do you hate winners so much ?

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    I have Brady 7.3 in our final rankings of experts here

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    Quote Originally Posted by manny24 View Post
    Topper why do you hate winners so much ?
    He thinks Brady is a cheater because of spygate and the deflated football in the colts game, where the pats won by like 50.

    Then that storyline was headlined prior to the superbowl, and Brady still scored 2 4th quarter tds against the best defense of all time. And won the superbowl. Then went on to win 2/3 more superbowls after that. Lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    He thinks Brady is a cheater because of spygate and the deflated football in the colts game, where the pats won by like 50.

    Then that storyline was headlined prior to the superbowl, and Brady still scored 2 4th quarter tds against the best defense of all time. And won the superbowl. Then went on to win 2/3 more superbowls after that. Lol.
    broncos fan smh

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    They didn't though. It got better. Brady is great bro but let's not act like the bucks weren't stacked.
    casuals don't get it

    people will blurt out

    peyton blown out by seattle D (that year that playoff run THAT game one of the greatest defensive games ever... plus easy when you go up 2-0 get the ball on safety punt to start game and quickly go up 9-0... much easier play after that)

    and then say that the next year that brady beat "THE SAME EXACT SEATTLE DEFENSE" ... when it's a year later... the roster has changed a lot including the depth being a lot worse and the core starters of the legion of boom playing with injuries (also lost a starter early in the game when he broke his arm AFTER PICKING OFF BRADY in scoring territory)....

    he's one thing and one thing only... the luckiest of all time

    they just don't look over the facts and copy what espn tells them to think

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goat Milk View Post
    He thinks Brady is a cheater because of spygate and the deflated football in the colts game, where the pats won by like 50.

    Then that storyline was headlined prior to the superbowl, and Brady still scored 2 4th quarter tds against the best defense of all time. And won the superbowl. Then went on to win 2/3 more superbowls after that. Lol.
    see, i made my last post before even reading this one from goater

    he even spews it out that the 2014 seattle D was BETTER than the 2013 version???? it's a bad look goater here

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    Brady is overrated. His defection to Tampa coincided with the Bucs adding integral pieces up and down that roster, not only on defense as others have stated, but on offense as well, both at the skill positions and solidifying what became perhaps the best offensive line in the league. And make no mistake, without an elite offensive line Brady would look like an average NFL quarterback, and likely worse, considering his age and immobility.

    Brady knew what he was doing when he fled to Tampa. New England was falling apart and the Bucs were on the upswing. I guess credit Brady for making a smart business decision, but that's about it. His play in the postseason wasn't even that good, but was buoyed by a team that probably many NFL quarterbacks could have taken on a deep playoff run. The notion that the Bucs were "bad" and Brady magically transformed them into a championship squad is laughable.
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    Bucs would have made the playoffs the year before with an average QB but they had Winston who threw 30 interceptions

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    I'm a Peyton Manning fan, Brady is the goat. Fukk him. I hope mahomie dethrones him someday

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    Quote Originally Posted by asiagambler View Post
    Bucs would have made the playoffs the year before with an average QB but they had Winston who threw 30 interceptions
    That's fine, he hit a +2000 prop for me in leading the league in passing yards. Jameis will always be remembered for it

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    So did Kawhi, for a few minutes, before taking extreme precautions and letting his team down...

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