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    Quote Originally Posted by reppin_the_847 View Post
    The Epstein party lasted a long, long time. But I'm not sure what expedited his demise in the end for sure. I think that the powers that be finally took him down once they saw that there was a risk of the guy going to trial with their secrets. He likely did have too much dirt / blackmail info on some of the most powerful folks on the planet, and they weren't gonna let that information come to light. I do believe he's dead (and not hiding out in Tel Aviv / Israel or what not), but I highly doubt that he really killed himself. In the end, dead folk can't talk.
    Jeffrey Epstein had the drop on all the big wigs in power that went to his island and banged all those young under aged girls. Jeffrey had to die or else once imprisoned and it wasn't by his hand. He knew to much.

    That's my best guess. I think Epstein was about to open the entire can of snitch ass to maybe reduce his sentence on very influential people in power.. Too much at stake he had to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Jeffrey Epstein had the drop on all the big wigs in power that went to his island and banged all those young under aged girls. Jeffrey had to die or else once imprisoned and it wasn't by his hand. He knew to much.

    That's my best guess. I think Epstein was about to open the entire can of snitch ass to maybe reduce his sentence on very influential people in power.. Too much at stake he had to go.
    Exactly. The guy had serious, serious money & toys (ie. private jet, private island, etc.), but still not the same level of world power & influence of say a Bill Gates, Bill Clinton, a Prince Andrew (all names linked to Epstein....heck, even a large chunk of Epstein's bank account & NYC mansion was rumored to have been gifted by the Limited brands founder Les Wexner / the same firm that owns Victoria's Secrets with their models & everything)...hmm the list goes on & on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    No reason for this. They can already prosecute criminally and when it's all said and done do it again in a civil case with less burden of proof required.

    The victim can continue to harass until there's no tomorrow.

    They could always fall back on the civil case of the criminal one doesn't pan out. Like the OJ drama.

    My worry here is that judges like this one allow trials to continue on, with blatantly inadmissable evidence, for the sole purpose of getting everything "legally" in the open in what becomes a trial in the public, not a courtroom.

    Because in the end the courtroom significance gets overturned, but the public heard stuff they never legally should have.

    That's not a good thing in general.

    That's the whole reason you skip the criminal trial. You need less proof for the civil case and hence it is easier to win (and even easier to settle). It's a hedge so that the victim gets something instead of nothing. The person who got raped (most of the time) would rather get a fat payout guaranteed instead of getting nothing and let the guy walk scot free and also look vindicated in the public arena. Some people go all out and the guy gets jail and pays out (like Weinstein) but many other times the guy walks (there are way to many cases in which a girl cries rape with no evidence or even worse it is relatively easy to prove she is lying with texts etc.). In this one just the time frame (2004 I think) makes almost everything super hard to prove at all and is more a he said she said, and the only reason Cosby incriminated himself is because they said they wouldn't prosecute criminally. Without that admission on the deposition this would have likely just gone away.

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    That's why you can do both.

    It doesn't matter what happens in the criminal trial, it won't preclude a civil suit as well.

    Specifically with cosby...

    Quote Originally Posted by Metatron View Post
    ...the only reason Cosby incriminated himself is because they said they wouldn't prosecute criminally. Without that admission on the deposition this would have likely just gone away...
    Think about that statement. Why would Cosby make any deal about criminal prosecution if doing nothing would make it go way. You're saying they had nothing, so he gave them an admission as long as he didn't get prosecuted?

    Think about that.


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    I did not say it was smart to say anything. But often times if a deal like that is offered, you take it... Regardless of what it makes you look like. Lets say you have a 90-10 chance of winning if you do or say nothing for the criminal trial. But DA comes and says guess what I won't go ahead with the criminal trial if we do civil and you just pay up. The odds are then 100-0 (on the criminal side)and you just pay for it to go away. I would do that every time, unless you don't care about going to jail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinakid View Post
    i seen this clown yrs ago at the harrah's in lake tahoe, had to be one of the worst shows i ever seen
    He performed at our university homecoming. Worst standup I've even seen and I've seen many.

    Cosby seems to be a habitual predator BUT most all the women who came out with allegations, did so 20+ years later. That is fukked up. There need to be statue of limitations and SOLID evidence instead of he say, she say that can destroy a man. It should be pretty standard that a woman MUST report a rape immediately, get checked for physical, sexual force. Rape is a serious allegation. At least go to the damn police. Just like the Deshaun Watson case, the women should have come out immediately, not just when an ambulance chasing lawyer calls them. Just like Trump accusers. You can't just come out with bullshit right before a guy runs for office or right before you publish a book. That's fukked up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Think about that statement. Why would Cosby make any deal about criminal prosecution if doing nothing would make it go way. You're saying they had nothing, so he gave them an admission as long as he didn't get prosecuted?
    Not sure why but that's exactly what happened. I think Cosby really believes he was innocent in these cases and that the drugs were part of the sex. Maybe he felt a bit above the law as well.

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    f him he'll be dead in 2 years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    He performed at our university homecoming. Worst standup I've even seen and I've seen many.

    Cosby seems to be a habitual predator BUT most all the women who came out with allegations, did so 20+ years later. That is fukked up. There need to be statue of limitations and SOLID evidence instead of he say, she say that can destroy a man. It should be pretty standard that a woman MUST report a rape immediately, get checked for physical, sexual force. Rape is a serious allegation. At least go to the damn police. Just like the Deshaun Watson case, the women should have come out immediately, not just when an ambulance chasing lawyer calls them. Just like Trump accusers. You can't just come out with bullshit right before a guy runs for office or right before you publish a book. That's fukked up.
    Well said.. Imagine if it was one of the victim's daughter's or mother's Cosby did that too? Do you think they'd wait 20 years to report it if it was that type of relative? If you have such a little regard for yourself to sit on it for that long then you should lose all sympathy & benefit of the doubt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    That's why you can do both.

    It doesn't matter what happens in the criminal trial, it won't preclude a civil suit as well.

    Specifically with cosby...


    Think about that statement. Why would Cosby make any deal about criminal prosecution if doing nothing would make it go way. You're saying they had nothing, so he gave them an admission as long as he didn't get prosecuted?

    Think about that.

    Without Cosby's admissions, at the time they didn't appear to have enough for a criminal pros. But ya never know. If you feel like you can preclude criminal, you want to do that. But civil burden of proof is much lower. They did have enough for a civil trial.

    A shrewd move by his attorneys if that's what was intended, but if that's the case I still don't get why they didn't get that in a written agreement.

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    Cosby can't even catch wood today. He's a non threat.

    Still his 2 year sentence for the things he did and got away with is a joke. Almost 60 girls coming forward even 20 years later is alarming.

    Bill Cosby had is way with probably a 100 or more girls after they were manipulated to come to his house and then drugged. I want to know where was Bill's wife during all this?


    Sounds alot like Epstein and his side kick Maxwell doing work together...


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    PILL COSBY definitely has a case... (Gotta love how TMZ always posts the most flattering pics).

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Without Cosby's admissions, at the time they didn't appear to have enough for a criminal pros. But ya never know. If you feel like you can preclude criminal, you want to do that. But civil burden of proof is much lower. They did have enough for a civil trial.

    A shrewd move by his attorneys if that's what was intended, but if that's the case I still don't get why they didn't get that in a written agreement.
    Bottom line, there is no "at the time" here.

    They went ahead with a criminal trial mainly because the statute of limitations was up. They may have even needed the antics because of how little they actually had. Buyt you don't know that.

    All we know is that they had both trials. They did both trials, you don't the staste of evidence between the trials, you are guessing.

    It also appears that this criminal trial really was about a public dragging as they apparently weren't following precedent.

    The criminal judge and DA should be fired for allowing it to happen and waiting for appeal.

    Like I said, it's a dangerous thing when that's the game the State wants to play. Just have a kangaroo court because there will be a second ruling at appeals. Bad look for the legal system for sure.

    Maybe all these accusers really aren't real.

    Maybe Cosby isn't who everyone thinks he is, after all, they believed the trial the first time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by d2bets View Post
    Without Cosby's admissions, at the time they didn't appear to have enough for a criminal pros...
    Then why would he give them something?

    For what purpose? He could settle without that, instead of give an admission and then settle.

    You didn't think about it, ssem like nobody is really thinking about it. Cosby didn't trade an admission of guilt for immunity from a criminal case that never had legs to begin with.

    Please people, think about it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Then why would he give them something?

    For what purpose? He could settle without that, instead of give an admission and then settle.

    You didn't think about it, ssem like nobody is really thinking about it. Cosby didn't trade an admission of guilt for immunity from a criminal case that never had legs to begin with.

    Please people, think about it.

    Well put KVB. You think Franco would have shelled out 2.2M if he didn't do anything?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doug tushyterror View Post
    Well put KVB. You think Franco would have shelled out 2.2M if he didn't do anything?..

    Franco apparently had better attorneys not trying to fleece the elderly.


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    So stupid. Have a buddy who got convicted as a sex offender and 10 years in prison for having a one night stand with a 15 year old when he was just 18 but Bill Cosby can sexually assaulted someone and get off.

    Welcome to America where nothing makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by navyblue81 View Post
    So stupid. Have a buddy who got convicted as a sex offender and 10 years in prison for having a one night stand with a 15 year old when he was just 18 but Bill Cosby can sexually assaulted someone and get off.

    Welcome to America where nothing makes sense.
    Cosby is talking about how he was mistreated because he was black now, typical race bating bullshit the left pollutes America with.

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    would love to tee it up and play 18 with this guy

    light new blunts off the last one and listen to stories the entire round

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    it a toss up between oj and this piece of crap crosby, who is the worst sob living today

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    It ain't easy being black in a white man's world


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    My guess is that he is at the white house molesting underage females with pedophile joe while wacked out jill & hunter watch & camel toe harry legs takes photos for the scrap book another page into their new socialist order

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
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    Has absolutely NOTHING to do with race. Much more to do with wealth. If Cosby was broke, he'd still be in jail.

    Stop trolling.

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    it's not surprising in the least that the attorney that screwed this up from the start, Castor, was one of the incompetent idiots hired by trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Has absolutely NOTHING to do with race. Much more to do with wealth. If Cosby was broke, he'd still be in jail.

    Stop trolling.
    It's just so strange because the new evidence used to bring up the charges against him was his admission years before, in which he used to bargain immunity.

    If they didn't have any other evidence to bring a case the whole time,and the new evidence was the admission, then why did he make a deal? Why was he pressed to admit?

    I think we're looking at a guilty man who is also being elderly fleeced by the opportunistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carolinakid View Post
    it a toss up between oj and this piece of crap crosby, who is the worst sob living today
    agreed, bing’s crimes are underrated

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    It's just so strange because the new evidence used to bring up the charges against him was his admission years before, in which he used to bargain immunity.

    If they didn't have any other evidence to bring a case the whole time,and the new evidence was the admission, then why did he make a deal? Why was he pressed to admit?

    I think we're looking at a guilty man who is also being elderly fleeced by the opportunistic.
    OJ sports memorabilia heist verdict was way more unjust. Would've most likely gotten probation & suspended sentence instead of 9 years if the judge didn't want to teach him a lesson for the murder acquittal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    It's just so strange because the new evidence used to bring up the charges against him was his admission years before, in which he used to bargain immunity.

    If they didn't have any other evidence to bring a case the whole time,and the new evidence was the admission, then why did he make a deal? Why was he pressed to admit?

    I think we're looking at a guilty man who is also being elderly fleeced by the opportunistic.
    Wrong, there is lots of evidence against Cosby, most of the evidence and testimony wasn’t admissible because of the statute of limitations though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    Wrong, there is lots of evidence against Cosby, most of the evidence and testimony wasn’t admissible because of the statute of limitations though.
    What evidence? From 30 years ago? I don't think there was ANY evidence from any of these woman. Most all of them never even told another person. 1 woman told her friend and mother weeks after but never went to the police. Come on. I think Cosby is a sleezy preator but these woman were clearly enjoying his company or something. How does not ONE woman go to the police? How do they not tell ANYONE. Think about that. Wouldn't you go to the police? Wouldn't you get a rape kit? Wouldn't you at least take a picture of your beat up, dripping pussy?

    I can't stand rapist but I really can't stand lying, opportunist that shout rape or racism, etc. This he said, she said shit has to stop. If you were wronged, post up the evidence or sit your ass down. Please don't come forward decades later. I'm thinking Catholic Priest here too. Yes, that's fukkked up for these priest to prey on little boys but somehow, someway, these boys have to come forward with proof. Not just accusations many years later. Or at least corroborated by someone else that saw the abuse. It's a fukked up situation and I really feel for someone that has been abused.

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