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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    what do you want? a pat on the back? a finger in the ass?
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    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    thank you for your continued almost daily updates about how you still don't play there
    Nice catch. Guess "troll-anders" doesn't think posters heard it the first time?
    These are just a few from the past week:



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    Used to be great

    Now wouldn't waste my time there

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    Garbage book

    Avoid

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    That's the point. Why would anyone play there, after 4 days I said f uck this place and pulled out my balance and haven't looked back.

    Astonishing it's STILL f ****** up

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    Wow

    SO glad I took 10k out and never looked back.

    F uck them
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    Got out 4 days after these bullshit changes happened.

    No need whatsoever to go back, ZERO

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    Since I see they're still a clusterfuck, it only amplifies my decision as being totally correct

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    It's a SHIT BOOK

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    Book finished

    Not even one I'd consider anymore.

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    It's a giant shit sandwich, and anyone who stays has to take a bite
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    Not so worried about the lack of full offerings as I am about the continually stale lines. Sure, hit them while you can. But no book with stale lines and poor risk mgmt lasts very long.

    I'm treating BAS like a brand new offshore who you know has no clue. Nice for easy opps.; bad for funds security.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barrakuda View Post
    Not so worried about the lack of full offerings as I am about the continually stale lines. Sure, hit them while you can. But no book with stale lines and poor risk mgmt lasts very long.
    I'm treating BAS like a brand new offshore who you know has no clue. Nice for easy opps.; bad for funds security.
    Exactly right. The red flags are all over the place. They've fixed it now, but for a full TWO WEEKS they had a huge fuckup with their NBA teaser lines.

    You could pick a teaser, for example a 5pt two-team teaser. And then when you went to pick the games, they included all the alt lines in the game selections...which allowed you to pick an alt line up to 2 pts in either direction for each team. And they DIDN'T CHANGE THE ODDS if you picked the alt lines.

    So they were essentially giving you 2 free points on every teaser you bet and on every team you included in the teaser. It was ridiculous and I kept waiting for them to realize it and shut it down, but it just went on and on. I know I couldn't have been the only one to hammer the shit out of it...never posted anything here because I figured it would just lead to more exploitation and quicker shut down, but the fact it took them so long to recognize and fix it is a bad sign for their bottom line.

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    ^^^ this may be the worst Iíve seen yet in this thread. Holy mother of god
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Strange Canada 5 Dimes is the old site

    BAS a new site

    How could be same owners?
    What makes you think they ever were the same owners JJ?

    I don't know for sure myself, but for the 10+ years they have been operating it appears to have been not been Tony at the helm to me.

    Never heard of any player being sent to live chat Tony to solve problems


    Quote Originally Posted by milwaukee mike View Post
    if you type jazzsports.eu it redirects to bas

    (jazzsports.ag is the real site for jazz)
    Cheeky move.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    What makes you think they ever were the same owners JJ?

    I don't know for sure myself, but for the 10+ years they have been operating it appears to have been not been Tony at the helm to me.

    Never heard of any player being sent to live chat Tony to solve problems




    Cheeky move.
    Most of us don't have the same insight as you do. But I think it's understandable why many here suspected that they may be related. Obviously, the same software & lines. But also the fact that 5Dimes offloaded a lot of US accounts on BAS when they pulled out. It was natural to think that maybe this was their way of holding onto some of their previous business while saying it wasn't them.

    If there was ever any doubt, this site "upgrade" should put it to rest. It's clear that they're trying to build a book from the ground up after having enjoyed access to the 5Dimes feed for years. That's why we're seeing so many growing pains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post

    Most of us don't have the same insight as you do. But I think it's understandable why many here suspected that they may be related. Obviously, the same software & lines. But also the fact that 5Dimes offloaded a lot of US accounts on BAS when they pulled out. It was natural to think that maybe this was their way of holding onto some of their previous business while saying it wasn't them.

    If there was ever any doubt, this site "upgrade" should put it to rest. It's clear that they're trying to build a book from the ground up after having enjoyed access to the 5Dimes feed for years. That's why we're seeing so many growing pains.
    I don't really have much more insight than you. It's only hindsight that made me think it was always a 5Dimes B2B customer relationship. Although I also had the impression that if any problems did arise with the other brand books, 5Dimes backed them.

    I also don't really think it's plausible that the widow would spend $45 mil to settle with the US govt, and then so openly risk that investment by handing off the US customers to her own company.

    I could be wrong of course. Just seems more likely it's not the same owners to me.

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    wish they would fix it so can see live lines again


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    It just seems they have no idea what they are doing
    The only things on their site that are working correctly are the 3rd party offerings like lottery, racebook and live betting all they do not manage

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    I'm there because it's the only place I can find state lottery/daily numbers. I've boasted how much in the past I liked the extra stuff they offered, NCAA regular season hockey and baseball, but I can live without it and maybe Heritage can fill some of that as much as I'm not of fan of theirs.

    All of us in the forum here could have got together and put a better website together, in what is now a month, than what they've done. It's not varsity, it's not even junior varsity. I just can't envision how this ends well. I don't think any of us are being impatient because if it was going to take this long, they should have used a test site and kept the old platform running.

    Oh, and I got my Angels game, not some exotic backgammon match, from Monday, graded last night. Sorry 48 hours to do that is not because of any bug in the system.

    I'll play the daily numbers and just watch what was a great platform just die on the vine.
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    It seems like very basic software where there are limited in what they can do

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    Plus I only can log in with the Edge browser, Chrome and Firefox I must have to clean cookies or something, I can't get in. And it is, it's always something and reading above I guess I'm not the only one having this problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    It seems like very basic software where there are limited in what they can do
    Or, a couple amateurs manning the software and point spreads?
    If I see too many more serious goofs, I will have to take a closer look.
    Right now, I still enjoy what they offer and will still rate them A+ and for one or 2 good reason that I thought I mentioned before, but seems, that info is not being listened to because of mute ears?
    Fight to keep this excellent site if you can?
    Look around at those 1950 standard options and props from old Books. Parlays and point-spreads, too, and think?

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    I'd love to know the behind-the-scenes reason for this split from 5D. Was the lease of 5Dimes software / lines too expensive, and they thought they could be a lot more profitable if they went out on their own? Was their some sort of falling out a la HRWager with the BetPhoenix group? Is 5Dimes getting out of the white label business for some reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    I don't really have much more insight than you. It's only hindsight that made me think it was always a 5Dimes B2B customer relationship. Although I also had the impression that if any problems did arise with the other brand books, 5Dimes backed them.

    I also don't really think it's plausible that the widow would spend $45 mil to settle with the US govt, and then so openly risk that investment by handing off the US customers to her own company.

    I could be wrong of course. Just seems more likely it's not the same owners to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    I'd love to know the behind-the-scenes reason for this split from 5D. Was the lease of 5Dimes software / lines too expensive, and they thought they could be a lot more profitable if they went out on their own? Was their some sort of falling out a la HRWager with the BetPhoenix group? Is 5Dimes getting out of the white label business for some reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
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    Yes. What's your point? I'm talking about what happened before that.

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    who knows all i know is their getting better day by day. just need to work out the kinks with adding every single tennis event challengers and doubles with some euroball leagues missing. as well as premier lines which a diff platform their working on, and hopefully with adding quicker lines, always seem to be adding shit late

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    Book is garbage. Can't get their platforms synched and cannot get the parlays to work properly
    Total trash
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    I stopped playing there

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    I'd love to know the behind-the-scenes reason for this split from 5D. Was the lease of 5Dimes software / lines too expensive, and they thought they could be a lot more profitable if they went out on their own? Was their some sort of falling out a la HRWager with the BetPhoenix group? Is 5Dimes getting out of the white label business for some reason?
    My guess is that in order to complete the Isle of Man license conditions 5Dimes could not allow their backend to be used by any US facing books.

    That might also explain why it happened so suddenly too.

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    I contacted DonBest and asked if they would put up BAS on the odds service.

    They did add them onto the screen, but unfortunately, they are showing the same lines as 5Dimes, which are not what they are actually using.

    I explained to DonBest that they were no longer using the same lines and they told me those were the lines that BAS was sending them.

    So maybe if enough people contact BAS and tell them to fix their lines on DonBest, they will.

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    Iíve been betting online for 20 years and it took me more than 20 minutes to make a simple two-team parlay using my iPhone.

    Very frustrating. A lot of back and forth and technical difficulties, etc.

    The same play would have taken me 15 seconds on BM.

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    Very strange what is going on there

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    Quote Originally Posted by DontTailMe View Post
    Most of us don't have the same insight as you do. But I think it's understandable why many here suspected that they may be related. Obviously, the same software & lines. But also the fact that 5Dimes offloaded a lot of US accounts on BAS when they pulled out. It was natural to think that maybe this was their way of holding onto some of their previous business while saying it wasn't them.



    If there was ever any doubt, this site "upgrade" should put it to rest. It's clear that they're trying to build a book from the ground up after having enjoyed access to the 5Dimes feed for years. That's why we're seeing so many growing pains.
    Yeah I think BAS was a sister site to Vietbet which I believe 5dimes group acquired like 10 or more years ago.

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    no Viabet I though under 5 Dimes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    I contacted DonBest and asked if they would put up BAS on the odds service.

    They did add them onto the screen, but unfortunately, they are showing the same lines as 5Dimes, which are not what they are actually using.

    I explained to DonBest that they were no longer using the same lines and they told me those were the lines that BAS was sending them.

    So maybe if enough people contact BAS and tell them to fix their lines on DonBest, they will.

    We're trying to make a square peg fit into a round hole. What most of us all want back isn't coming back and we're trying to convince the new regime at BAS to be like BAS used to be. That shipped has sailed.

    So maybe if enough people contact Don Best and convince them to add lines??? This is a group that can't grade certain people's mainstream sports wagers until 48 hours later, that have casinos "coming soon" for 5+ weeks. What you're asking them to do is split an atom. If you have any amount of money at BAS, it's at you're own risk, enough red flags have been put up, just reread this thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Very strange what is going on there
    Still. Unreal.

    Not a big fan of BAS right now but do get down sometimes if the MLB line is right.

    Always checking the site though.

    Don't like what I see.

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    I think could be an association with youbetonit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank View Post
    I contacted DonBest and asked if they would put up BAS on the odds service.

    They did add them onto the screen, but unfortunately, they are showing the same lines as 5Dimes, which are not what they are actually using.

    I explained to DonBest that they were no longer using the same lines and they told me those were the lines that BAS was sending them.

    So maybe if enough people contact BAS and tell them to fix their lines on DonBest, they will.
    Thanks for your effort.

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    Trying to send them the message; SBR players are not happy with your service. They replied: "We are not concerned about SBR." And cannot help what people think about them. Something like that? Not an exact quote.

    They have solid English speaking helpers on the phone--and that's better than 90% of any customer services.
    And I know of 2 fast payouts. I mean fast. One was mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ABEHONEST View Post
    Trying to send them the message; SBR players are not happy with your service. They replied: "We are not concerned about SBR." And cannot help what people think about them. Something like that? Not an exact quote.
    I think this statement pretty much sums it up. Lets take over the client bases of one of the most profitable sportsbooks in history and change the model because we know how to make money better. I am an old guy and have worked in business for over 40 years. I've seen new management come into places with that arrogant attitude and destroy more than one profitable business.

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    BAS has lost a ton of customers just a small book now with not much use it could be a risky book to play at with lots of player lose in future and USA books everywhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    I think could be an association with youbetonit
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