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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    What major energy source did he shut down??? Please don't say the Keystone pipeline?

    I hope Biden pissed off Russia. I don't know why Canada should be pissed off but Biden's priority is America first. Not just in words but in deeds. Biden has been the best thing to happen to the energy sector. Trump nearly collapsed the industry. Trump was one of the worst presidents for the industry. Just do your research, don't take my word for it. Look up energy companies the last 4 years. We don't do so well with $20 oil.


    Pedo Joe banned drilling and fracking

    of course energy prices were going to rise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    so if all 200+ million of people in that age bracket got it in the US, there would only be 4,200,000 deaths or so?
    Flu is 0.1%. Guess we should be panicking for that as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post

    Pedo Joe banned drilling and fracking
    of course energy prices were going to rise
    Huh? I have several friends drilling and fracking right now? I guess they didn't get the memo.

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    not making a comment on policy, or panicking, or chances of that many deaths..

    I'm just a bit surprised at the .2 and .1 #'s people are throwing out

    they seem high and not considering the whole of the picture

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    not making a comment on policy, or panicking, or chances of that many deaths..

    I'm just a bit surprised at the .2 and .1 #'s people are throwing out

    they seem high and not considering the whole of the picture
    The problem is they are saying the new variant is killing young people. Yet noone under 70 has died in my province in over 2 weeks.

    How do they explain that number? Again it is the most vulnerable we should be protecting. Young people should not be afraid to leave their basement.

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    We are in basement although I live in basement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    The problem is they are saying the new variant is killing young people. Yet noone under 70 has died in my province in over 2 weeks.
    How do they explain that number? Again it is the most vulnerable we should be protecting. Young people should not be afraid to leave their basement.
    I don't know why/when did we all of a sudden devalue the elderly? Just because someone is old, do we not care if they die from Covid? Oh he died from Covid but he was old anyway. That is sick. I posed the question a long time ago that would we have responded differently if Covid killed young people, especially babies? Would we have the same non caring value for life?

    Brazil may change this narrative. Thousands of young people 20 to 40 are dying from Covid in Brazil right now. That is very scary if it becomes a trend in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I don't know why/when did we all of a sudden devalue the elderly? Just because someone is old, do we not care if they die from Covid? Oh he died from Covid but he was old anyway. That is sick. I posed the question a long time ago that would we have responded differently if Covid killed young people, especially babies? Would we have the same non caring value for life?

    Brazil may change this narrative. Thousands of young people 20 to 40 are dying from Covid in Brazil right now. That is very scary if it becomes a trend in the US.
    Average life expectancy lower than average age of death of Covid.

    I value their lives but if they refused the vaccine and are now getting sick that is their own fault.

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    If you are old or compromised stay home and isolate. If you are not and want to take an acceptable risk then fug it. Let us roll. Why is this so difficult?

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    If you do not take Covid serious it will hurt you men

    Stop being dumb and get vaccinated when possible

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    If you do not take Covid serious it will hurt you men

    Stop being dumb and get vaccinated when possible
    I have my vaccine appointment tonight. I'll let you know if I die.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RonT73 View Post
    If you are old or compromised stay home and isolate. If you are not and want to take an acceptable risk then fug it. Let us roll. Why is this so difficult?
    Many of them stayed home in their assisted living homes. How did that turn out for them?

    But I agree. Every person has to assess their own level of risk.

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    My 'Healthy' daughter of 22 years old got in and was in intensive care for two weeks.

    And just 3 weeks ago a former co-employee of mine 60yrs old no issues got hospitalized and never got out as he passed.

    So first hand I know it's real.

    Just still in the middle about how serious it's proclaimed to be

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    My 'Healthy' daughter of 22 years old got in and was in intensive care for two weeks.

    And just 3 weeks ago a former co-employee of mine 60yrs old no issues got hospitalized and never got out as he passed.

    So first hand I know it's real.

    Just still in the middle about how serious it's proclaimed to be
    To be fair, most people are far less "healthy" than they realize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Just still in the middle about how serious it's proclaimed to be
    I am hearing more and more stories of young people getting very sick. My friends in Brazil are really nervous with so many young people dying. Sorry to hear of your daughter's case and former employee. I've known too many people who have died in the last year. One friend lost his mom and dad 3 days a part. Both were relatively healthy. I also have a friend who's dad is 96 and got covid in a nursing home and recovered with no problem.

    I've also known several people who gotten vaccinated and died 2 weeks later. One friends dad has been sick a lot but got the vaccine in Feb and died 2 weeks later. Another friends dad got the vaccine a few weeks ago and just died 2 weeks later. Hank Aaron and Marvin Hagler both died 2 weeks after the vaccine as well. So I have no idea what that's about. That is what is so baffling about this virus. It impacts people differently. So maybe the vaccine does the same? This virus seems more confusing than HIV/Aids when it first came out. You can't really get a straight answer from scientists because I don't think they really know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    I mean 6 deaths in 5 days in my province. All over the age of 80.

    People die all the time.
    unrivaled. My friend 34 is in the hospital and his father has died. His son 2 years old got covid from preschool brought it home and got both his parents and grandparents sick.

    my friend and his mother is recovering they were relatively healthy ppl and his father was only 61. Be careful. Don't listen to these nut jobs even if its not as BAD as media makes it out to be its Still OUT there !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    My 'Healthy' daughter of 22 years old got in and was in intensive care for two weeks.

    And just 3 weeks ago a former co-employee of mine 60yrs old no issues got hospitalized and never got out as he passed.

    So first hand I know it's real.

    Just still in the middle about how serious it's proclaimed to be
    I don't doubt there are exceptions. But for the vast majority it is sniffles or no symptoms.

    Either way the States will be vaccinated by end of May and Canada will be vaccinated by 2023.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronald View Post
    To be fair, most people are far less "healthy" than they realize.
    I'm starting to think health doesn't have much to do with covid. Yes, it is important to your final outcome of potentially dying but some very healthy people are having major issues. Mo Bamba and Jayson Tatum, both 22 struggled with covid. Yoan Moncado was killing the baseball until he got Covid. Myles Garrett was on track to lead the league in sacks, got covid and his production went to shit. Rudy Gobert, patient zero in the NBA still doesn't have his taste or smell. Tom Sweeney had to cancel his football season as he got myocarditis. Asia Durr, the 2nd pick in the WNBA draft, looks like her career is over due to covid and she's 23 years old. Scary... A nurse friend 30 years old that run triathlons and marathons got very ill from it. Yet a lot of unhealthy people have recovered from covid as well. I think it maybe more of blood type, or DNA or maybe certain mineral deficiencies like vitamin D that may prove to be more important. I'm really starting to think Vitamin D maybe a huge blocker. We need more research because right now, nobody seems to know much, especially the scientist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    unrivaled. My friend 34 is in the hospital and his father has died. His son 2 years old got covid from preschool brought it home and got both his parents and grandparents sick.

    my friend and his mother is recovering they were relatively healthy ppl and his father was only 61. Be careful. Don't listen to these nut jobs even if its not as BAD as media makes it out to be its Still OUT there !!!
    I don’t think many people deny that it is out there, or that it can spread, I think it’s The overreaction that people have problems with. If I were over the age of 70 I might be afraid of cases or I might fear it spreading to me, but I’m under 50 years old and I don’t believe that your fear should ever have to be my fear.
    mcfly In one breath you say EveryoneShould be responsible for assessing their own risk, yet you’ve left me with the impression that you defend the government removing that right from you

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    Jay don’t get lax

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    I don't doubt there are exceptions. But for the vast majority it is sniffles or no symptoms.
    Either way the States will be vaccinated by end of May and Canada will be vaccinated by 2023.
    I think every person has to weigh their own risk and make their own decisions. I was extremely cautious until I got vaccinated. I am normally not a vaxxer but I felt getting the vaccine would at least help prevent me from getting seriously ill, which is what concerned me most. Now that I am vaccinated, I've traveled, gone to the casino, baseball, football and basketball games. Indoor events, restaurants, etc. It's game on for me the last few months now. But I fully understand if someone does not want to get vaccinated or hide in their basement out of fear.

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    Says the guy from the state with the highest death rate ​on the planet

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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie12 View Post
    unrivaled. My friend 34 is in the hospital and his father has died. His son 2 years old got covid from preschool brought it home and got both his parents and grandparents sick.

    my friend and his mother is recovering they were relatively healthy ppl and his father was only 61. Be careful. Don't listen to these nut jobs even if its not as BAD as media makes it out to be its Still OUT there !!!
    I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe because it's everyone I know who had it got loss of taste at worst so that is my personal experience.

    That being said they say alot of young people are in hospital in Alberta so who knows could be lagging indicator.

    I'm just tired of the media hyping it up and never any good news. Heard last night that a double mutant variant has landed in Canada.... like really?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayvegas420 View Post
    I don’t think many people deny that it is out there, or that it can spread, I think it’s The overreaction that people have problems with. If I were over the age of 70 I might be afraid of cases or I might fear it spreading to me, but I’m under 50 years old and I don’t believe that your fear should ever have to be my fear.
    mcfly In one breath you say EveryoneShould be responsible for assessing their own risk, yet you’ve left me with the impression that you defend the government removing that right from you
    No, I do not think the government should force you to get vaccinated. The government should not pass any law or measure forcing you. I really don't think we should start labeling people as vaxxers either. It is a form of discrimination. I believe in religious freedoms and some people will not get vaccinated because of their religion. I am very clear on this. I'm not sure what I said to make you think different? That was not my intention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe because it's everyone I know who had it got loss of taste at worst so that is my personal experience.
    That being said they say alot of young people are in hospital in Alberta so who knows could be lagging indicator.
    I'm just tired of the media hyping it up and never any good news. Heard last night that a double mutant variant has landed in Canada.... like really?!
    This is why there's been so much confusion. A lot of people just didn't know anyone that got sick or died, so to them it felt like a hoax. It's not until someone you know or love is gasping for their last breath that it really hits you that this thing is real. You can't see it, smell it or taste it, so it is invisible. How can something invisible be so deadly? How easily does it spread? I think we are still trying to figure that out.

    I think something is definitely going on with so many young people getting sick now. Maybe some mutant variant, I don't know but why are so many young people getting deathly ill now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    I'm starting to think health doesn't have much to do with covid.


    Obviously we're not doctors or scientists, but I think the only logical explanation is that covid searches out, finds, and attempts to destroy any hidden underlying health issues that we don't even know exists yet

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    Obviously we're not doctors or scientists, but I think the only logical explanation is that covid searches out, finds, and attempts to destroy any hidden underlying health issues that we don't even know exists yet
    This is a scary thought that is most likely true.

    Which really makes me think it could possibly be man made???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe because it's everyone I know who had it got loss of taste at worst so that is my personal experience.

    That being said they say alot of young people are in hospital in Alberta so who knows could be lagging indicator.

    I'm just tired of the media hyping it up and never any good news. Heard last night that a double mutant variant has landed in Canada.... like really?!
    stop watching and reading the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hman View Post
    My 'Healthy' daughter of 22 years old got in and was in intensive care for two weeks.

    And just 3 weeks ago a former co-employee of mine 60yrs old no issues got hospitalized and never got out as he passed.

    So first hand I know it's real.

    Just still in the middle about how serious it's proclaimed to be
    My dad's 73 been working in a sheet metal shop with over 40 other guys since the beginning of this and he's had zero symptoms. All due respect to your family but for me it's been a different experience.
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    if everyone could weigh in with their personal anecdotes of people they know that got covid, their age, and their outcome

    we will get to the BOTTOM of this REAL quick

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    I've known people as young as 4 and as old as 96 that had covid. prob a total of about 43 people I know have contracted it.

    they all came away stronger and happier

    one had a raunchy fart at one point though

    so far I know 7 people dead as a door nail from the vaccine. 11 seizures, 8 facial paralysis, 15 erectile dysfunctions and 33 people with mental illness now

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chi_archie View Post
    if everyone could weigh in with their personal anecdotes of people they know that got covid, their age, and their outcome

    we will get to the BOTTOM of this REAL quick
    I know a bunch of people that got Covid and no one died from it including me. Covid was always a joke. Less then 99% of people that contract it don't die.

    The Covid virus attacks the really old and fat people only. Those are the ones that should only get vaccinated in my opinion.

    Kids getting vaccine shots is a joke. Young healthy men and women also. Masks don't work either. We've all been lied to.

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