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    Quote Originally Posted by Emily_Haines View Post
    The only thing he is doing is giving away free money to broke dicks. Free money will always have a high approval. The vaccines are 100% the result of Trump.
    I’m all for this thought process on the vaccines as long as it’s also understood that economy changes happen over time and that the economic tour around began with Obama before trump. You can’t have both. You can’t claim both sides only when it applies to what your agenda is

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    Nice try. But he specifically said $2000 after the $600 checks were distributed. And there really is no reason the guy couldn't sign the bill today. Trump signed the other bills hours after they approved the previous deals. Those few days do matter for people who are really struggling.
    If you read the bill he is actually giving more to families with children or dependents than he promised.

    With the old plan children and dependents were getting only $500.

    So a family of 5 would have gotten $2000+$2000+$500+$500+$500=$5500

    Now they are getting: $1400+$1400+$1400+$1400+$1400=$7000

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    If you do the math the checks should be $6000 for each American and not just $1400 if the money was all spent on just Covid relief. Think about that. Alot of garbage spending in this bill.. Dems wish list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    If you do the math the checks should be $6000 for each American and not just $1400 if the money was all spent on just Covid relief. Think about that. Alot of garbage spending in this bill.. Dems wish list.
    Not only that but this bill is rascist. 5 billion is going to black farmers. Im not even joking. So if you are a farmer you will only get relief if you are black. How is this fair?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BeatTheJerk View Post
    Mike what book is this ?
    Youwager

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I got $600 end of December and will get another $1400 next week. Here is the $2,000 he guaranteed before the elections. Do you know how do to do basic arithmetics?
    BS again

    People didn’t get 600

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    If you read the bill he is actually giving more to families with children or dependents than he promised.

    With the old plan children and dependents were getting only $500.

    So a family of 5 would have gotten $2000+$2000+$500+$500+$500=$5500

    Now they are getting: $1400+$1400+$1400+$1400+$1400=$7000
    Stop repeating bull shot lies pal.

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    It’s funny how many hate giving 1400 dollars to people but they don’t mind giving billions to airlines that ran their financials into the ground before covid. Or that the other bill was suppose to be for businesses to help keep employees from being laid off and most big businesses found a loophole around that.
    Or the amount of fraud that ppp loans created
    Is 1400 needed for everyone? no it’s really not but I can guarantee you this. That 1400 is going to be used by people in a way that doesn’t fuk over other citizens and cost them their jobs like the corrupt covid bill did from the previous house and senate.
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    Depression coming

    Everything basically is covered up

    Residential Housing market out of control...commercial real estate verge of bankruptcy

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    Biden should have signed by now of at least do it this Morning (Lib or Con cannot make a honest excuse for why not)

    Then order IRS to work over the weekend getting the $$$ out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Biden should have signed by now of at least do it this Morning (Lib or Con cannot make a honest excuse for why not)

    Then order IRS to work over the weekend getting the $$$ out
    I think the government has too many formalities in place. There is always a delay getting it to the White House

    they aren't just sending an email attachment of the bill, over to the white house to get printed out.

    I think when it gets signed is out of the Senile old farts hands on this one.


    But the Bill will get there and the fancy pen will come out and INFLATION will get a big push

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    Quote Originally Posted by King Mayan View Post
    Sammy how much more in food stamps are you getting?
    Probably as many as what you're already getting.


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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    I got $600 end of December and will get another $1400 next week. Here is the $2,000 he guaranteed before the elections. Do you know how do to do basic arithmetics?
    Werent you bragging you make too much to qualify? Youve said many times you make 6 figures

    And you even saved a small business

    Keep track of your stories better come on

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Books in CR are gearing up...
    Sammy will i get some? I think i deserve it...

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    'cats

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    Quote Originally Posted by vitterd View Post
    61 percent of the American people support this and it’s a no brainer bill. Republicans aren’t happy but they will be gladly accepting their stimulus checks.

    Checks, vaccines.....Joey B doing work. His best job was getting rid of trump. Guy is on a roll.
    Your so right V. Biden's bill will lite the economy on fire...If Douchebag Don were still president and he was passing this sort of bill, the low life right wing whackos here on SBR would have there heads so far up Trumps azz they would be licking his scrotum. If they don't want the next disaster ck, they can rip it up and through it away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by goduke View Post
    It’s funny how many hate giving 1400 dollars to people but they don’t mind giving billions to airlines that ran their financials into the ground before covid. Or that the other bill was suppose to be for businesses to help keep employees from being laid off and most big businesses found a loophole around that.
    Or the amount of fraud that ppp loans created
    Is 1400 needed for everyone? no it’s really not but I can guarantee you this. That 1400 is going to be used by people in a way that doesn’t fuk over other citizens and cost them their jobs like the corrupt covid bill did from the previous house and senate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    Not only that but this bill is rascist. 5 billion is going to black farmers. Im not even joking. So if you are a farmer you will only get relief if you are black. How is this fair?
    "So, if you are a farmer you will only get relief if you are black" is a fukking LIE....Why do you LIE all the time mike....Are you taking over for bacon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CWD View Post
    Werent you bragging you make too much to qualify? Youve said many times you make 6 figures

    And you even saved a small business

    Keep track of your stories better come on
    I make six figures. But the qualifications is for taxable income. After deductions for health insurance and 401k (which are tax free) I make less that the $160,000 married couples qualify. You got to be making as a family more than $200,000 to not qualify as the deductions for health insurance, 401k and children tax credit kick in to lower your taxable income.

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    Nice try. But he specifically said $2000 after the $600 checks were distributed. And there really is no reason the guy couldn't sign the bill today. Trump signed the other bills hours after they approved the previous deals. Those few days do matter for people who are really struggling.
    Uh dummy, it’s a huge bill and it takes time to have it worked out and on paper. That’s why it takes a day. Are you stupid or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    Not only that but this bill is rascist. 5 billion is going to black farmers. Im not even joking. So if you are a farmer you will only get relief if you are black. How is this fair?
    Was it fair when white farmers got $22 billion in 2019???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Biden should have signed by now of at least do it this Morning (Lib or Con cannot make a honest excuse for why not)
    Then order IRS to work over the weekend getting the $$$ out
    Haha, Biden can't win. This country is full of complainers. First they complain that money is going out, then they complain that it is going to the poor instead of the rich, now they complain that it's not going out the same day. A lot of sweaty, smelly pussies.

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    Everyone likes free money, I get it!!

    Will be a price to pay eventually in the future. Inflation, US currency value dropping, etc. Something has to give. Can't just keep pumping out stim checks to the American people when the economy is recovering now and Covid is under control.. It's called irresponsible spending and freebies.

    What ever though. Let's what happens?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post


    Haha, Biden can't win. This country is full of complainers. First they complain that money is going out, then they complain that it is going to the poor instead of the rich, now they complain that it's not going out the same day. A lot of sweaty, smelly pussies.

    Like Sammy said... (Lib or Con cannot make a honest excuse for why not)

    You went ad hominem meaning you have no honest excuse

    But we know you're a POS human being behind "Mac4Lyfe"

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Will be a price to pay eventually in the future. Inflation, US currency value dropping, etc. Something has to give.
    When though? I mean, it seems logical, but this has been said for multiple generations now (about how deficits will eventually lead to hyperinflation etc)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nitrogen View Post
    When though? I mean, it seems logical, but this has been said for multiple generations now (about how deficits will eventually lead to hyperinflation etc)
    IDK Nitro? I don't have a crystal ball.

    I just know you keep borrowing and spending much like do with your credditcaards or home equity lines of Creddit/mortgages at high interest rates there will be hell to pay down the road!! Bankruptcy or foreclosure in your personal life is what happens down that road if you do that. That usually happens with reckless spending over time thinking the economy will always stay great which it never does..

    National Debt no difference in a sense.https://www.usdebtclock.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    IDK Nitro? I don't have a crystal ball.

    I just know you keep borrowing and spending much like do with your credditcaards or home equity lines of Creddit/mortgages at high interest rates there will be hell to pay down the road!!
    All seems logical - except that home owners don't print the worlds reserve currency. The reason governors had to beg for PPE and money and the last POTUS is trying to take a vaccine victory lap, is because one had to ask for assistance, and one could just aim a t-shirt canon of unlimited money in any direction they wanted.

    I don't know enough about how debt obligations for the worlds safe harbor currency works - but 1975 in NYC seems like something inevitable "some day" (when no one would buy their bonds)

    If you take political ideology out of it. Bush/Obama/Trump/Biden whoever -- if you were a politician, what would be your incentive to try and reverse this spending? I mean, besides the obvious (it's better long term). But politically, it's political suicide to tell people "remember that Iraq War in 2003? Well, taxes are going up - it's time to pay for it" (or substitute the 2008 bailout or 2020/2021 stimulus whatever).

    It's unfortunate that these types of debates are so polarized and toxic. It's fascinating - but also terrifying. With big institutions now moving into things like decentralized crypto - is that possibly a harbinger that they see the inevitable coming soon, or just a hedge?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
    Like Sammy said... (Lib or Con cannot make a honest excuse for why not)

    You went ad hominem meaning you have no honest excuse

    But we know you're a POS human being behind "Mac4Lyfe"
    You're still complaining and whining. Good luck with your stimulus check. You sound desperate.

    Oh and change your tampon. Your pussy stinks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam Odom View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    And why can't this lazy fuk sign the bill tommorow?
    He did

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    Quote Originally Posted by themike78 View Post
    Not only that but this bill is rascist. 5 billion is going to black farmers. Im not even joking. So if you are a farmer you will only get relief if you are black. How is this fair?
    How African-American do you have to be to enjoy the relief? at least 25%? at least 5%? at least 1%?
    and who is making the determination?
    Last edited by eidolon; 03-11-21 at 02:24 PM.

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    Checks starting to go out this weekend in press briefing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac4Lyfe View Post
    Was it fair when white farmers got $22 billion in 2019???
    There was a bill that white farmers got 22 billion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by eidolon View Post
    There was a bill that white farmers got 22 billion?
    Actually white farmers got twice as much as that. Now people are upset about $4B when white farmers got $46B. Research "Pigford settlements", the USDA admitted that they discriminated against minority farmers, years ago.


    House Agriculture chairman David Scott said minority farmers deserved the assistance because they were overlooked in the record $46 billion in farm subsidies last year and the trade-war payments of 2018 and 2019.
    White farmers collected nearly 97% of the $9.2 billion in USDA pandamic payments from May through October 2020, said the Environmental Working Group, which tracks farm payments. The average payment to whites was $3,398 while Black farmers averaged $422. A second round of coronavirus aid was released in the fall and a third round in January. In all, $23.8 billion has been paid by USDA.

    This government has been bailing out people for 100 years. Unfortunately, I haven't received shit.

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