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    Cheltenham horse racing festival 2021

    It starting next week Tuesday has anyone been through the card.
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    been watching preview youtube videos for weeks. great contest. how did we live before youtube. starting to get some feel. have to see how track conditions go. that trainer situation over there is just lights out bad and bad timing for the sport. they best hope no horses die in the jumps this week.

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    this one will be good with lots of info and insights and some value
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIpZMG6gvwM

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    Willie Mullins horse looks the best bet for the bumper around 15/8


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    Outside the 3 or so "banker bets" its very competitive.....On the Jumps i Lay alot more then back...One angle i use is when mullins or Henderson have multi runners in stakes w one luke warm favorite play the longer prices...another is when they go from chase back to hurdles bet against chasers..Jumps are tough since times meaningless and there is lots separation in talent...i really enjoy betting them..toughest jocks in world

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    It’s a steeple chase?

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    JP. McManus Silks another good thing to watch out for in Jumps. Iconic silks

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    Appreciate it the banker 1st race

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    The storied Cheltenham Festival is this week

    With seven-race cards from Tuesday through Friday featuring 14 G1 races and at least one championship race each day, the Cheltenham Festival is home to the best jump racing in Britain. First post each day is 8:20 a.m.

    the Greatest Show on Turf.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    Appreciate it the banker 1st race
    man the bookies are getting destroyed so far...all three banker bets superstar horses won by 10+ so far today!


    one more today CONCERTISTA if she wins oh boy bookies are bad day
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    going by the tvg pp's i really don't get these odds..I'm probably missing something but take a couple of stabs


    R6 #15 coltor (12-1 about 20 mins)

    R7 #7 nestor park (30-1)





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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    going by the tvg pp's i really don't get these odds..I'm probably missing something but take a couple of stabs

    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing
    R6 #15 coltor (12-1 about 20 mins)

    R7 #7 nestor park (30-1)





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    https://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing is a good site to see what fixed odds are at many tracks worldwide accorss many top sites
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    thing with these jumps you can leave go make lunch come back and race is still only half way done

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    thing with these jumps you can leave go make lunch come back and race is still only half way done


    lol.. do you know what the figures in the tvg pp's are.. who makes them and are they popular with people who play.. i get the feeling they don't mean that much??

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    lol.. do you know what the figures in the tvg pp's are.. who makes them and are they popular with people who play.. i get the feeling they don't mean that much??
    i use the TVG PP's plus some UK handicapping sites. Times and figures in jumps are just so off. they dont list it like USA does the sectional times. Its kinda like dog racing you have to follow the circuit to get a good handle of running styles and whats what. The system they use for weights is pretty good though

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    i use the TVG PP's plus some UK handicapping sites. Times and figures in jumps are just so off. they dont list it like USA does the sectional times. Its kinda like dog racing you have to follow the circuit to get a good handle of running styles and whats what. The system they use for weights is pretty good though

    yeah not surprised about times being off.. probably class is more important and maybe that and weight are part of figure.. between class, weight, many different distances, layoffs, track conditions and what they're actually weighted at lots of things to go with besides time.. then the people who watch trips and maybe the inside scoop on who's doing well.. but to me just being able to look at the standard pp's and be able to make good decision is what matters.. lot of fun watching these marathons

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBEX View Post
    yeah not surprised about times being off.. probably class is more important and maybe that and weight are part of figure.. between class, weight, many different distances, layoffs, track conditions and what they're actually weighted at lots of things to go with besides time.. then the people who watch trips and maybe the inside scoop on who's doing well.. but to me just being able to look at the standard pp's and be able to make good decision is what matters.. lot of fun watching these marathons
    timeform has a rating for UK that many use but its like most standard rating its very chalkly.

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    that was a Superior Day 1 wow some top of the top stars ran huge and some shockers

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    day 2 race 6 my play of the week is #13 Entoucas big field so will be good price

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlekona View Post
    timeform has a rating for UK that many use but its like most standard rating its very chalkly.
    oh ok..going to look at it tomorrow..something a little different and only 3 more cards left..just looked up some terms so at least i know the basics lol..chase,hurdle,novice, bumper (flat race for horses that have only run in hurdles ?)
    ..any free info available for this besides tvg pp's ?

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    You would think Paul Townend would be able to out ride Racheal Blackmore in the bumper race, Kilcruit seems the banker win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    You would think Paul Townend would be able to out ride Racheal Blackmore in the bumper race, Kilcruit seems the banker win.
    both are for Mullins and both look salty types. Those bumper race fields an be pretty bad sometimes and you can see wide winners. Mullins could easily go 1 2 3 here.

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    R1 #5 galliard du mesnil (2-1)

    three in here between 9-5 and 5-2 (2 ,3) like that he beat big fields,carried more weight and his last two races averaged today's distance..last figure(tvg pp's)significantly better than the other 2

    R2 #4 monkfish (1-2)

    not exactly a reach but you never know


    R3 #23 guard your dreams (15-1)


    R4 #1 chacun pour soi (4-5)

    looks dominant like R2


    R5 #9 le breuil (15-1)


    R6 duc des genievres (20-1)

    more rest and big class relief..has the numbers


    R7 #13 grangee (20-1)

    big figure last out..maybe didn't care for the heavy track 2 back..big weight drop vs last as she takes on the boys today




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    finished

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    Racheal for Henry in First easy peasy win. Thats second big win for the connections. Mullins horse went from smooth traveling to under preasure about 3 fur out

    UP next superstar monkfish.....I love the show the Monk BTW LOL

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    wow monk drifted from 1.24 to 1.54 in live with few bad jumps early and then survived that last fence with the loose horse almost causing a mess of a mistake. WOW nice win for bridge jumpers

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    33 to 1 winner helps the bookies

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    Is anyone going all in on chacin pour soi

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    Quote Originally Posted by slayer14 View Post
    Is anyone going all in on chacin pour soi
    That was my Lay of the Day WOW!

    • Lay (Bet Against)
      Odds
      Stake
      Liability
    • Chacun Pour Soi
      2m Grd1 Chs

      1.68
      120
      80.16
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      [COLOR=var(--color-success)][/COLOR]

    • Chacun Pour Soi
      2m Grd1 Chs

      1.68
      64
      43.52
      [COLOR=var(--color-error)][/COLOR]
      [COLOR=var(--color-success)][/COLOR]

    • Chacun Pour Soi
      2m Grd1 Chs

      1.63
      12
      7.56

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    Put The Kettle On, the only mare defeats eight geldings at 7/1, nice call for those who had her.

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    I had a feeling the cut back to 2 miles might hurt his jumping a bit with the pace being a bit quicker. I think he tired more then got run down but ill take it

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    Up next cross country race with the Legend Tiger Roll bet all the down to 6.0 with some pretty bad racing form coming into this. Easyland comes off bad race too but I'd think McManus and Cottin have him ready like last year hes the solid chalk

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    wow Tiger Roll in a Stroll #Legend

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