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    Vegas Golden Knights Partner With Tout Site 😲(Updated Post #38 - Deal Terminated)

    Vegas Golden Knights partner with sports picks recommendation site

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    2/25/21


    The Vegas Golden Knights on Wednesday announced a multiyear partnership with UpickTrade, a sports betting recommendation service based in Mexico.


    UpickTrade.com becomes the Official Sports Pick Service Partner of the Knights and will be featured on the team's web and social media platforms as well as on the boards around the rink at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas. The deal, according the press release announcing it, is the first sponsorship agreement between a Mexican-based company and an NHL club, as well as the first partnership between a professional sports franchise and a sports betting recommendation service.


    "We are hopeful our fanbase will make UpickTrade.com a part of their sports pick betting process," Mike Mungiello, vice president of global partnerships for the Knights, said in the release.


    Carlos Lazo Reyes, CEO of UpickTrade, called the deal a "historic moment in the sports betting market" and claimed his company has more than 6,000 customers worldwide.


    Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.


    UpickTrade charges clients $89 a month for its selections, including on the NHL. According to the picks posted on the UpickTrade website from January and February, the service has not offered predictions on any game involving the Knights.


    Asked if UpickTrade is allowed to sell picks on Knights games or would have access to injury and lineup information, Eric Tosi, vice president of communications for the team, told ESPN, "At this time the organization does not have any additional comments beyond what was included in the press release."


    A request for comment to UpickTrade from ESPN was not immediately returned.


    The deal drew criticism from the sports betting community, including problem gambling experts, bookmakers and bettors, who have disdain for the sports pick-selling industry.


    Keith Whyte, executive director for the National Council on Problem Gambling, noted on Twitter that the UpickTrade's website does not include prominently displayed responsible gambling information.


    Picks-sellers have had a notorious reputation for decades, dating back to 1-900 premium phone lines in the 1980s and 1990s and blossoming further on the internet. Services have been accused of selling one side of a game to one client and the other side to a different client, falsifying records and pretending to have inside information.


    On Wednesday, after the deal was announced, the Knights' logo was displayed on the front of UpickTrade's site. The logo was removed from the front of the site as of Thursday.

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    Terrible

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Terrible

    Vegas a scam
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    Impossible to disagree.
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    Prob charge you a bunch

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    And I thought the Knights were well run.

    Has to be something more than we know behind this deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    wonder how much they had to pay for this
    According to the article their gross income is 500k/mth currently. (sad if true)

    Rule of thumb is between 5%-10% of turnover should go to marketing.

    25-50k/mth should be budget if the numbers are true. But they probably are not as they come from a tout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    According to the article their gross income is 500k/mth currently. (sad if true)

    Rule of thumb is between 5%-10% of turnover should go to marketing.

    25-50k/mth should be budget if the numbers are true. But they probably are not as they come from a tout.
    They sell subs for $89 / month, so they claim to have more than 5,000 subscribers?

    Their domain authority is 9, no site tracking data found prior to September 2020. Estimated organic traffic is 200-300.

    Something is really off with this whole deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Optional View Post
    According to the article their gross income is 500k/mth currently. (sad if true)

    Rule of thumb is between 5%-10% of turnover should go to marketing.

    25-50k/mth should be budget if the numbers are true. But they probably are not as they come from a tout.
    From the article:
    "Carlos Lazo Reyes, CEO of UpickTrade, called the deal a "historic moment in the sports betting market" and claimed his company has more than 6,000 customers worldwide."

    Is that 6,000 active subscribers or all-time subscribers? The retention rate for touts must be garbage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juicername View Post

    From the article:
    "Carlos Lazo Reyes, CEO of UpickTrade, called the deal a "historic moment in the sports betting market" and claimed his company has more than 6,000 customers worldwide."

    Is that 6,000 active subscribers or all-time subscribers? The retention rate for touts must be garbage.
    If I was a tout wanting co-branded sponsorship of even a big website like SBR, I'd be thinking 25k per month would be ballpark cost. If I could even get it.

    If I could get it on the Knights jersey for that much, I'd feel like it was a no brainer great deal.

    That suggests they need to maintain about 2500 active subscribers each month to justify it in normal business terms.

    Could work I guess? If the Knights sell themselves that cheaply.


    I tend to smell a rat like Juicer does though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjsuax13 View Post
    The V on the jersey will be for Vegas Dave soon enough.

    Are people still buying his picks? What's the recent story?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hehfest View Post
    Are people still buying his picks? What's the recent story?
    No clue but you and I both know a sucker is born every minute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzaii View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by hehfest View Post
    Are people still buying his picks? What's the recent story?



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    https://upicktrade.com/records

    All they do is take big favorites and buy points. Right out of the Vegas Dave playbook.

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    They re getting destroyed over it

    It also is a scam site from Mexico somebody got a payoff

    I would think deal going to get cancelled

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    They re getting destroyed over it

    It also is a scam site from Mexico somebody got a payoff

    I would think deal going to get cancelled
    As it should. Very poor decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clockwise1965 View Post
    As it should. Very poor decision.
    yep you cannot do deals with any touts all scammers and we all know nobody wins

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    The Knights got conned and I would bet 100% site has vegas tout ties

    Someone in power within Organization 10000% linked to the tout site and or owner and set up a shell company in Mexico , he or they will get kickback from tout site

    This is not going to end well for Knights

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    promoting a tout just screams fraud at a bunch of levels. someone in the organization must be laundering money to mexico and this is the favor.

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    This is a disgrace. The Golden Knights deserve whatever bad press they get from this.

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    Doing it to expand hockey in Mexico . Carlos should have hired somebody to write that.

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    Sounds like free money

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    sure gary bettaman is happy about bringing hockey to mexico

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    This will be the new norm. Legalization across the USA will result in a massive boom for tout services. JJ you should start a podcast

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