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    Quote Originally Posted by batt33 View Post
    If smith plays half way decent.... skins as in redskins...
    smith gets philly to jump off sides.... good enough!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    but that's the whole point...Pederson already told everyone yesterday that is what he was going to do...funny thing, with all of the missing players Philly had and knowing full well what Pederson's plans were, the Eagles still covered with (+6.5)!
    So they were planning on tanking the game. Explains why they went for it instead of kicking the field goal to tie the game.

    You don't pull your starting QB in a close game for Johnny-jerk-off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Even Collinsworth is still talking about the move. They tanked.
    It was quite obvious. They didn't put the 3rd stringer to win the game. Eagles will get the best lineman in the draft now to help the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    but that's the whole point...Pederson already told everyone yesterday that is what he was going to do...funny thing, with all of the missing players Philly had and knowing full well what Pederson's plans were, the Eagles still covered with (+6.5)!
    not really depends when you bet the game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    It was quite obvious. They didn't put the 3rd stringer to win the game. Eagles will get the best lineman in the draft now to help the team.
    I'm quite shocked that Da Manster! thinks this was normal. He's a pretty sharp poster.

    Social media is already nuts over Hurts getting pulled for that bum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Are you crazy? The freaking commentators are even talking about it.

    They're doing everything they can to lose.

    You don't bring in a back-up QB to play when your starter is doing fine.

    The game got close and they changed the entire formula. Jesus Christ, are you blind?
    some ppl just refuse to believe teams do this in the slightest of ways.... texans tie titans very late but 18 sec left... let titans best big play WR go deep downfield 1 on 1 and he gets past the CB and the safety covers someone going for a measly 15-20 yard catch... lol

    jets late vs raiders...

    and so on

    and so on

    same guys refuse to believe refs try their best to manipulate outcomes or amount of points a team wins by with flags in games here and there throughout the season, some subtle and some very obvious at times

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    Had nothing to do with evaluating talent.

    1. Pederson knows he’s returning as coach next year.

    2. Eagles pick ninth in NFL draft if they win.

    3. Eagles pick sixth if they lose.


    Good night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    I'm quite shocked that Da Manster! thinks this was normal. He's a pretty sharp poster.

    Social media is already nuts over Hurts getting pulled for that bum.
    Please don't get caught up with conspiracy theorists like Pavyracer...the same guy who lied about having sex with that porn star and got busted for it!...(I didn't really want to bring it up but you got to consider the source)....but seriously, this is the NFL...these teams, players, and coaches are fighting for their jobs...I'm just not buying the tanking theories...and you can't convince me otherwise unless you see something really egregious going on the field and that was not the case tonight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    I'm quite shocked that Da Manster! thinks this was normal. He's a pretty sharp poster.

    Social media is already nuts over Hurts getting pulled for that bum.
    Yeah not sure why he couldn't see it. I called it before the game started. This year's draft has a lot of talent. Next year would be too weak. Not sure there is a QB drafted top 10 next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMakers View Post
    Had nothing to do with evaluating talent.

    1. Pederson knows he’s returning as coach next year.

    2. Eagles pick ninth in NFL draft if they win.

    3. Eagles pick sixth if they lose.


    Good night.
    If they were tanking, they would have started Sudfeld instead of Jalen Hurts and pulled all of their starters by halftime...and then played 3rd and 4th stringers the rest of the way...that did not happen...it was a very close game that Philly was trying to win...you guys seriously need to pull your heads out of your ass and cut the nonsense.

    Good night

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    If they were tanking, they would have started Sudfeld instead of Jalen Hurts and pulled all of their starters by halftime...and then played 3rd and 4th stringers the rest of the way...that did not happen...it was a very close game that Philly was trying to win...you guys seriously need to pull your heads out of your ass and cut the nonsense.

    Good night
    So are you saying Pederson wanted to win tonight?

    Losing was a business decision. Oh, and he hates the Giants lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    Please don't get caught up with conspiracy theorists like Pavyracer...the same guy who lied about having sex with that porn star and got busted for it!...(I didn't really want to bring it up but you got to consider the source)....but seriously, this is the NFL...these teams, players, and coaches are fighting for their jobs...I'm just not buying the tanking theories...and you can't convince me otherwise unless you see something really egregious going on the field and that was not the case tonight.
    Dude, they tanked the game.

    You DON'T pull the best player on your team when the game is close and put in some bum.

    This may have been the most obvious case of tanking a game that I have watched in my 46 years on this planet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarkMakers View Post
    So are you saying Pederson wanted to win tonight?
    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    If they were tanking, they would have started Sudfeld instead of Jalen Hurts and pulled all of their starters by halftime...and then played 3rd and 4th stringers the rest of the way...that did not happen...it was a very close game that Philly was trying to win...you guys seriously need to pull your heads out of your ass and cut the nonsense.

    Good night
    If Philly was TRYING to win, then why did they pull the best player that they had on the field?

    Think about that.

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    The ONLY chance Philly had of winning this game from the start was Jalen Hurts, and he was the only reason why they were even in it.

    And benching him for a 3rd string bum was the best option for them to win the game after the coach went for a 4th and goal play instead of kicking a game tying field goal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    Yes
    You are a moron, it was obvious sudfeld got not reps in practice and wasn’t ready to play, the eagles wanted a higher draft spot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Dude, they tanked the game.

    You DON'T pull the best player on your team when the game is close and put in some bum.

    This may have been the most obvious case of taking a game that I have watched in my 46 years on this planet.
    no they didn't...He already told you he was going to play Sudfeld tonight REGARDLESS of what was happening on the field...remember, there wasn't any OTA's, mini-camps, preseason this year...Maybe he wanted to see how Sudfeld would do with the offense...and Hurts didn't do jack shit!...do you guys even watch the game?...Here is Jalen's numbers tonight...7 out 20 for 72 yds and one INT!......yes Kermit!!..Hurts was on fire!!...look at those MVP numbers!!!.......here is Sudfeld's numbers...5 out of 12 for 32 yds and one INT!...basically about the same if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomorino View Post
    You are a moron, it was obvious sudfeld got not reps in practice and wasn’t ready to play, the eagles wanted a higher draft spot.
    shut the fuk up you non-handicapping piece of shit...you are one of the shittiest cappers in the history of this forum (and that is saying something) and you are down negative units all across the board...truth be told, you don't have no room to talk about anyone on this forum and should have your posting privileges revoked until the year 2023.

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    The tanking is done in the 4th quarter. You still want your starters to earn their stats for the contract incentives and then you tank. If Washington was up by 3 and the Eaglea were kicking a FG to tie they game they would have missed it. There are a lot if ways to tank a football game. Throwing picks, fumbling the center to QB snap, jumping offside on 4th and inches, not get open to give the QB a target to throw. Eagles did all these in the span of 10 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    The ONLY chance Philly had of winning this game from the start was Jalen Hurts, and he was the only reason why they were even in it.

    And benching him for a 3rd string bum was the best option for them to win the game after the coach went for a 4th and goal play instead of kicking a game tying field goal.

    no Alex Smith was the reason why they were in the game...didn't you notice the ultra conservative game calling?...dinks, dunks, screens, and check downs?...Peterson knows the Skins offense was very limited and in no danger of putting the game away...once again, it was our defense that shutdown Philly and saved the day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pavyracer View Post
    The tanking is done in the 4th quarter. You still want your starters to earn their stats for the contract incentives and then you tank. If Washington was up by 3 and the Eaglea were kicking a FG to tie they game they would have missed it. There are a lot if ways to tank a football game. Throwing picks, fumbling the center to QB snap, jumping offside on 4th and inches, not get open to give the QB a target to throw. Eagles did all these in the span of 10 minutes.

    Well truth be told, the Eagles have been doing that all year long!...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    I'm quite shocked that Da Manster! thinks this was normal. He's a pretty sharp poster.

    Social media is already nuts over Hurts getting pulled for that bum.
    thanks for the compliment......but as you can see, I'm old school...I don't believe in tank jobs, conspiracy theories, etc...especially not at the pro level...sometimes it is what it is...I mean seriously why did the Jets start off (0-13) or whatever it was and then won two games in a row and cost themselves the number one overall pick in the draft?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    thanks for the compliment......but as you can see, I'm old school...I don't believe in tank jobs, conspiracy theories, etc...especially not at the pro level...sometimes it is what it is...I mean seriously why did the Jets start off (0-13) or whatever it was and then won two games in a row and cost themselves the number one overall pick in the draft?
    Pulling the best player on your team for a bum is a tank job. That 3rd stringer had ZERO to offer that team in a close game.

    Yeah, Smith played like shit. That is even more reason why you don't bench a guy who is better than him. If you want to tank a game, when you see that the opposing QB is is playing like shit, you bring in someone who is even worse. Which is exactly what they did.

    Jalen is the future of the Philly team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Pulling the best player on your team for a bum is a tank job. That 3rd stringer had ZERO to offer that team in a close game.

    Yeah, Smith played like shit. That is even more reason why you don't bench a guy who is better than him.
    First of all, Hurts is not the best player on their team and I already gave you his numbers for tonight's game...he was mediocre and his numbers were rather pedestrian at best...but believe what you want to believe...we will just agree to disagree...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Pulling the best player on your team for a bum is a tank job. That 3rd stringer had ZERO to offer that team in a close game.

    Yeah, Smith played like shit. That is even more reason why you don't bench a guy who is better than him. If you want to tank a game, when you see that the opposing QB is is playing like shit, you bring in someone who is even worse. Which is exactly what they did.

    Jalen is the future of the Philly team.
    Agree, anyone who argues the point is on this issue dumb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    First of all, Hurts is not the best player on their team and I already gave you his numbers for tonight's game...he was mediocre and his numbers were rather pedestrian at best...but believe what you want to believe...we will just agree to disagree...
    Hurts was the only chance that the Eagles had of winning the game tonight. Pretty sure the 14 points that they scored came directly from him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Da Manster! View Post
    shut the fuk up you non-handicapping piece of shit...you are one of the shittiest cappers in the history of this forum (and that is saying something) and you are down negative units all across the board...truth be told, you don't have no room to talk about anyone on this forum and should have your posting privileges revoked until the year 2023.
    A four year old could figure out the eagles were tanking dumb shit. You are a fool. And I’m up more in the mba alone than you are in all sports combined dumb shit, my records are strong across the board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Hurts was the only chance that the Eagles had of winning the game tonight. Pretty sure the 14 points that they scored came directly from him.
    Agree, manster is too dumb to realize you can’t just use stats to judge dual threat quarterbacks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kermit View Post
    Hurts was the only chance that the Eagles had of winning the game tonight. Pretty sure the 14 points that they scored came directly from him.
    Kermit, upon further review, I can definitely see where you are coming from...yes, maybe Pederson tried to sabotage the game last night and play not to win, but how is that fair to the rest of the guys on that field that were busting their ass and giving 100% maximum effort trying to actually win the game?...that was basically my whole point...I for a FACT that the players were trying hard to win the game...they sure as hell weren't tanking...but I digress, I know if I was a player right now in that Eagles locker room, I would be pissed and angry and they would have a mutiny on their hands...Like I said, I'm old school and don't usually go for conspiracy theories but after clearing my head a little bit you make valid points and I can certainly understand your position...

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