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    miaplus3
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    odds of surviving a 30x rollover assuming a 100% cash bonus?

    I would think if you were throwing darts at -110 lines & couldn't play one book off another the over/under would be around 30%?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miaplus3 View Post
    I would think if you were throwing darts at -110 lines & couldn't play one book off another the over/under would be around 30%?
    You lose 100% of deposit without being a breakeven bettor.

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    i tell people to never take these type of tools the books use to get your money.

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    Actually with a cash bonus, you would still have money left. You would lose but it would not be all that bad. This assumes you used bankroll management which never happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    This assumes you used bankroll management which never happens.
    So much this

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    30x is ok if in casino, not sportsbook

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    8x or lower or RUN

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    It's actually a good deal. I would take it but I can't recall ever seeing a 100% cash offer from a book like that. Pretty hard to come by.

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    The biggest problem with that kind of deal is that it is a bookie buster. So you will not get it but from a broke book or one soon to be broke.

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    I'm doing a 20x rollover at BetDSI. 123% Bonus. Firing -110's. 60% of the way there - 1.23k to 10.2k so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    I'm doing a 20x rollover at BetDSI. 123% Bonus. Firing -110's. 60% of the way there - 1.23k to 10.2k so far.
    How much are you betting per game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon View Post
    How much are you betting per game?
    200-300. Took a few shots though. 1.5k on Eagles +6.5

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    100 + 100 = 200 total to start

    200 x 30 = 6000 needed to satisfy rollover.

    assuming you boogie with 50%, that means you would have about 3000 losing bets & with juice that means you would be minus 300.

    200 - 300 = -100, If I'm doing that right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CanuckG View Post
    200-300. Took a few shots though. 1.5k on Eagles +6.5
    That'll do it.

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    go all in on other side also and lose some juice and hope you bust out of bonus book

    If bonus book wins just start betting normal

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    Quote Originally Posted by miaplus3 View Post
    100 + 100 = 200 total to start

    200 x 30 = 6000 needed to satisfy rollover.

    assuming you boogie with 50%, that means you would have about 3000 losing bets & with juice that means you would be minus 300.

    200 - 300 = -100, If I'm doing that right.
    You would lose about $36 total on a $100 deposit which is pretty good. Normally you would lose $60.

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    No, I screwed this up completely. You gotta roll 2x what I was thinking. So it is a little worse than average. I wouldn't take it. It is not terrible though.

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    Grind and wait. It is possible to make the 30x roll over but it takes time and just don't request a payout for a long while. Gotta watch for the expire dates on the bonus play also which is a trick for the books.

    I hate taking freebies from all books as it can create future trouble when trying to cash out. I like to keep it simple and smooth with the books. You win you win, you lose you lose with only the cash you deposited and you will get no hang ups. You deposit money in a bookie and take no bonuses it will always be a smoother ride when cashing out with all the books when it's time.

    That I learned over the years.

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    So I was right the first time, you do lose it all. It's pretty bad.

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    2 weeks ago, I would have said hell yeah!


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    Even though it is a bad bonus for the average bettor, it is still a very dangerous bonus for the book which is why you will never see them offering 100% cash bonuses for very much money because those can go upside down massively when football season starts or you get people that know what they are doing and take you for a ride.

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    Amen Brother!

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    Assuming you deposit $100 and get a $100 cash bonus you would have $200 and a rollover of $6000. Assuming you are an average handicapper you will win one of two bets. Therefore for each $200 you wager you will lose $10. ($110 on bet A wins +100 $110 bet B loses -$110). After $4000 in bets you are now down $200, the deposit+bonus (and broke). The books know this and thats why they give the bonuses. However, a bonus like this can easily be rolled over by betting both sides of the game on arb lines using two books when you have bonuses at both. There are many lines each day where the odds are the equivalent of +100 -100 at different books.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JIBBBY View Post
    Grind and wait. It is possible to make the 30x roll over but it takes time and just don't request a payout for a long while. Gotta watch for the expire dates on the bonus play also which is a trick for the books.

    I hate taking freebies from all books as it can create future trouble when trying to cash out. I like to keep it simple and smooth with the books. You win you win, you lose you lose with only the cash you deposited and you will get no hang ups. You deposit money in a bookie and take no bonuses it will always be a smoother ride when cashing out with all the books when it's time.

    That I learned over the years.
    Jibby it is too lucrative now, look around plenty of shops 50-100 percent 10x rolls

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    Another strategy is to go all in a couple times and see if you can double up twice. Then you are either broke quick or you have a nice bank roll to work with to meet the RO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garyking View Post
    Assuming you deposit $100 and get a $100 cash bonus you would have $200 and a rollover of $6000. Assuming you are an average handicapper you will win one of two bets. Therefore for each $200 you wager you will lose $10. ($110 on bet A wins +100 $110 bet B loses -$110). After $4000 in bets you are now down $200, the deposit+bonus (and broke). The books know this and thats why they give the bonuses. However, a bonus like this can easily be rolled over by betting both sides of the game on arb lines using two books when you have bonuses at both. There are many lines each day where the odds are the equivalent of +100 -100 at different books.
    Gary, check your inbox.

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    i've had few to any problems satisfying roll overs. gl

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    I'll never take a bonus again

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