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11-13-20 12:20 AM #36
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11-13-20 08:29 AM #37
that is like the holy grail Originally Posted by Tanko
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11-13-20 08:33 AM #38
and they are always on winning streaks. they never lose. or you will never hear anything when they lose, only when they win, so they lead you to believe they are experts. Originally Posted by Waterstpub87
i can only be friends with those who bet and are honest. you can tell within a month if they are.
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11-13-20 08:46 AM #39
The only thing worse than one loser in a relationship is two losers. Originally Posted by pologq
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11-13-20 08:49 AM #40
Like plumbers and fast food workers????? Originally Posted by jjgold
Have fun
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11-13-20 09:00 AM #41
To answer the question, I kind of snicker to myself and think: "Oh brother, I wonder how much this moron has lost."
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11-13-20 09:06 AM #42
Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon
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11-13-20 09:11 AM #43
2 losers equals 1 winner. it is science. Originally Posted by Roger T. Bannon
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11-13-20 10:15 AM #44
Ignore them forever after that. They will drain your life.
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11-13-20 10:23 AM #45
Sports gamblers are dirty
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11-13-20 12:06 PM #46
My experience has been the opposite. They want to commiserate about losing. Originally Posted by pologq
It is much worse because I live in NJ with it legalized. Everyone is terrible when they first start. Imagine being surrounded by people who are first starting.
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11-13-20 12:07 PM #47
Go out for coffe discuss picks
become friends
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11-13-20 01:10 PM #48
i can't imagine talking to all of these newbies who think it is a foregone conclusion they will be buying houses with their winnings Originally Posted by Waterstpub87
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11-13-20 01:13 PM #49
I tell them to shut the fukk up and if they want to learn how to win to listen to me.
Then I destroy their entire world personally and culturally with a hard truth about sports betting and why teams win and lose. Not to mention the fundamentals of book making and even more myths to bust.
That weeds out the bullshit and those who really want to learn stick around. I’ve trained dozens of successful handicappers.
The biggest hurdle most of these guys have is their egos and some people simply don’t have the ability to move forward. Those that can move forward often get shaken out anyway never even realizing they were taken for ride.
Rinse and repeat the same thing happens every year.
There’s no substitute for experience, but only if you can learn from it.
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11-13-20 01:19 PM #50
100% the reason I don't play fantasy---lol....
Originally Posted by Waterstpub87
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11-13-20 01:29 PM #51
they wont be friends for long because once you hit brag about it they will say hey throw me a few bucks then if you do you may never see them again or at least until they hit something. Thats how it works in the gambling friends worlds Originally Posted by Otters27
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11-13-20 01:29 PM #52
I don't mind these guys talking about it to me, I know deep down they are the reason I win long term.
It doesn't take a very long 2 way discussion for them to realize I'm on another level, playing chess while they are playing checkers, and I can identify weak spots in both personality and handicapping, and can help them some of them with it.
I've seen 1000s of handicapping methods in action.
But I've been doing at a very long time, on both sides of the counter, and even the most advanced up us understand there's always more to learn. Shit, I've seen some very successful long term bettors not understand simple things, like vigorish and how parlays work.
Seen that here at SBR.
In the end I offer to teach, soemthing I used to do a lot of here at SBR.
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11-13-20 01:46 PM #53
the absolute worst, especially when it is a fantasy league with people at work Originally Posted by PaperTrail07
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11-13-20 01:54 PM #54
Yeah, the fantasy guys are so into it, but I think they lack situational awareness.
So busy looking at the trees that they fail to see the forest.
Often they think success at fantasy sports means they have a clue, when they are never testing whether or not they were just lucky or skilled.
My sports handicapping involves just as much testing of my shit as it does actually creating it and doing the handicapping.
It's a bit tougher to reliably test fantasy results, but at least in fantasy you are only against a select group, each week, and not the market as a whole.
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11-13-20 02:08 PM #55
I try to stay away from them, because there they are more than likely a mush.
I only met one guy that seemed to be a legit better. He and his friend would only bet on MMA fights; the thing is they never would watch the matches. They ran numbers and would win. He was a very intelligent guy. They did this only during their grad school years.
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11-13-20 02:11 PM #56
There was a time where MMA was really soft and easy to push the lines around. Colleagues who focus on it have all said it has changed a bit over the years, especially with the explosion of events and coverage. Originally Posted by eidolon
Some of them still say opportunity exists, thanks to it becoming more widespread betting wise, but it's not like it was.
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11-13-20 03:02 PM #57
Honestly-I think the amount of opportunity is overwhelming now--you would have time-pick your spots ect...now there are new names and cards all the time-weird situations-short notice ect---people used to snipe MMA winners, they now play dogs like it MLB or something...There are still easy wins out there....but like any sport you pay juice and it gets tougher by the day to pick a dog.......
Originally Posted by KVB
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11-13-20 03:09 PM #58
Like this viewpoint, the popularity brings opportunity and I've seen stats collected at an advanced level on thousands of MMA fights and styles, and I can honestly say the markets are not efficient, it seems. Originally Posted by PaperTrail07
But the vig is high, that's for sure.
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11-13-20 03:09 PM #59
well said Originally Posted by KVB
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11-13-20 03:19 PM #60
I've noticed with MMA that sometimes we get two strikers but one of them is a grappler.
If that the other striker has been flashing, knocking opponents the fukk out, they start to get money and get pulbicly skewed.
Eventually he runs into another strike who can grapple.
The inevetible submission and upset win.
I call it getting Meatball McCanned in memory of the quintessential example when Molly Meatball McCann got armbarred.
lol.
The only fighter to really buck this trend is one of my favorite fighters of all...
Derrick "My Ballz was hot and I gotta take shit" Lewis!
He's a real bitch to submit.
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11-13-20 03:39 PM #61
They get away with almost unreal Vig in mma and boxing...
Originally Posted by KVB
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11-14-20 04:15 AM #62
Yeah, this was around 2013. Originally Posted by KVB
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