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    SBR Tony
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    is Cam Newton really worth 4.5 points

    I could remember when he was with the Panthers and he was injured and the line moved 3 points
    4.5 points is a nice size swing.

    thought the talk before the season started was that Newton and Hoyer would both play at some point.
    does that mean Hoyer is ready to step in right off the bat? I think so

    I'll take anything @+11.5 plus, and take a chance tonight

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    No but hoyer is-3 points and cam is 1.5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No but hoyer is-3 points and cam is 1.5.
    this makes a lot of sense

    but I'm still going to take a chance at +11.5

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    Not at all

    this line is a joke

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    I dont think so. Belicik will likely have Hoyer ready as well. Don’t take my word for it though. I posted I thought the Chiefs game would go over last week and some douche canoe cursed me out in a pm. This is just my opinion, which means jackshit! Don’t bet your wad off my opinion!

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    Big drop off from Cam to Hoyer, plus starting RB Sony Michel just went on IR. Factor in that the Pats actually flew to KC just this morning. Ouch! Bad situation. KC will win and cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBR Tony View Post
    I could remember when he was with the Panthers and he was injured and the line moved 3 points
    4.5 points is a nice size swing.

    Hoyer alone will cover KC spread at least pk 6 and a sack fumble in KC RedZone...

    thought the talk before the season started was that Newton and Hoyer would both play at some point.
    does that mean Hoyer is ready to step in right off the bat? I think so

    I'll take anything @+11.5 plus, and take a chance tonight

    Hoyer alone will cover KC spread at least pk 6 and a sack fumble in KC RedZone...

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    Hoyer is very average with little mobility. Chiefs by 14.

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    I'm just taking KC -7 for the first half.

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    Yes


    A great qb

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    Teasing NE +18 and Over 42.

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    Patriots might not score a meaningful TD. Take the under tonight.

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    Good question

    Maybe his is I'd lean yes

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    good luck with hoyer

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakerboy View Post
    No but hoyer is-3 points and cam is 1.5.
    lmfao

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    Seaweed has the Chiefs ML. Do you really care who the QB is?

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    Yes it does. There is a huge difference between 1st and 2nd QB.

    This is why when a team misses their kicker the line doesn't move.

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