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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    Only relevant Books USA Draftkings and Fandual

    Most others little business


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    So weird

    Half the point of the El Dorado acquisition was to out source the book to Hill....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    So weird

    Half the point of the El Dorado acquisition was to out source the book to Hill....

    This story been verified yet?
    They wanted to get out of the stone age and get online so you get William Hill to do that but that only gets you to the on deck circle. To get in the game and take a swing, you need to own William Hill altogether. They are now one of the major players in the market. Before they were trying to figure out how to operate a sportsbook online.

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    Caesars will dominate this industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFats View Post
    So weird

    Half the point of the El Dorado acquisition was to out source the book to Hill....

    This story been verified yet?
    Well then the next step in the process should be obvious Minny.

    I thought we went over this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Caesars will dominate this industry.
    Not likely. They are playing from behind and William Hill does not offer what it takes to dominate the industry.They will have to buy out somebody else to dominate which they may do. They will not do it on their own.

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    Cannot get any worse

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    William Hill owes me $5k and is stalling.

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    Caesars ok

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    Quote Originally Posted by The General View Post
    Like I've said though, 90% will buy at any price for action. Makes no difference.
    The General is on the money here. We're still in the nascent stage of legal (near) nationwide gambling in the US, but if folks like JJ Gold are right and everyone is going to make us pay -115 or even -120 juice instead of the standard -110, we will indeed buy the action in order to avoid jumping through all the hoops of offshore shops. I will grant that my wagers are absolutely recreational, i.e. small potatoes, but at what dollar amount is someone considered big-time? It's a ways up there, and all of us below that threshhold will indeed pay a bit more in order to feel more secure about our elusive payouts.

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    Caesars as far as Pennsylvania has the best money lines meaning the Tightest money lines

    Itís in house book not run out of Europe Not live betting on everything just big stuff, More of a traditional Las Vegas book
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    Bettors come in lay 15 or 20k whatever price. You'd think these guys would want the best price, but not so.

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    Pricing will become very competitive as this baby grows. These corporate ppl don't know what to do yet, but as ppl like me grow into legal mgmt roles, things will change. These corporate ppl really don't know how this chit work in the small towns where legalization is taking place.

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    Will be interesting what happens the next three years if these books start to tighten juice

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    Gold, I'm not talking down on the corporate ppl. I understand where they are, but they were learning how to do a photo shoot with a a slot winner when me and you and walker and Weitzner were taking on the offshore sportsbook elite. It's just true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StackinGreen View Post
    How many different lines are there even now in Vegas, once this transformation takes place? 2?
    I can think of 4, I think, ha. Vaccaro at SouthPoint, WestGate, Circa, and Caesars. I don't think Station Books are hooked in with any I listed.

    Above I have accounts with, also MGM. That is 6, I leave anybody out?
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    I'm part of the communication chain with Caesars and the plans aren't nothing to ignore. It's going to be a fun ride. I hope I'm part of it for a long time. Hopefully, in Casino sportsbooks are here to stay. (?). Online betting is the chit already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loser711 View Post
    I can think of 4, I think, ha. Vaccaro at SouthPoint, WestGate, Circa, and Caesars. I don't think Station Books are hooked in with any I listed.

    Above I have accounts with, also MGM. That is 6, I leave anybody out?
    Treasure Island, Cantor, Golden Nugget
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    Will Hill was a bubble gum book that banned everyone, it was a bad look had to but them out.
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    Caesars has dime lines up to 160 I believe in the USA

    Most of those other books canít touch that

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    This is a win for bettors because Caesars has the largesse Hill never did.

    Whales will feel more comfortable and the action will be steamier.

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    Caesars baseball lines

    -160/150

    Rest of USA Books
    -165/137

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    Quote Originally Posted by rm18 View Post
    Treasure Island, Cantor, Golden Nugget
    Cantor bought out by William Hill months ago.
    Well at least part, I had an account w the Palms /CG,
    William Hill acquired.
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    Quote Originally Posted by loser711 View Post
    I can think of 4, I think, ha. Vaccaro at SouthPoint, WestGate, Circa, and Caesars. I don't think Station Books are hooked in with any I listed.

    Above I have accounts with, also MGM. That is 6, I leave anybody out?
    Boyd Gaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by loser711 View Post
    Cantor bought out by William Hill months ago.
    Well at least part, I had an account w the Palms /CG,
    William Hill acquired.
    Venetian still cantor?
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    Will William Hill lines replace Caesars soon? Anyone know how long? Will it be the whole betting menu, straights, RR, parlays, sweetheart teasers? I'm wondering more on the sweetheart football teasers, which WHill offers 3 team 10 and 4 team 14...

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    Already done; all the sportsbooks in Caesars casinos are now WillHill.

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    Thanks Horsey

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrunkHorseplayer View Post
    Already done; all the sportsbooks in Caesars casinos are now WillHill.
    I haven't seen this in Caesar's casinos outside of Vegas though. For example, that one by chicago (Indiana?) I think it's called horseshoe doesn't have William Hill lines or kiosks.

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    Caesars terrible
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    Baseball juice ok though

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