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    pga tour championship this week who you got starts friday

    monday finish

    starting scores each player

    Dustin Johnson -10
    Jon Rahm -8
    Justin Thomas -7
    Webb Simpson -6
    Collin Morikawa -5
    Daniel Berger -4
    Harris English -4
    Bryson Dechambeau -4
    Sungjae Im -4
    Matsyuama -4
    Brendan Todd -3
    Rory Mcilroy -3
    Patrick Reed -3
    Xander -3
    Sebastian Munoz -3
    Lanto Griffin -2
    Scottie Scheffler -2
    Joaquin Niemann -2
    Tyrell Hatton -2
    Tony Finau -2
    Kevin Kisner -1
    Abraham Ancer -1
    Ryan Palmer -1
    Kevin Na -1
    Marc Leishman -1
    Cameron Smith E
    Viktor Hovland E
    Mackenzie Hughes E
    Cameron Champ E
    Billy Horschel E


    Winner
    Dustin Johnson +200
    Jon Rahm +300
    Justin Thomas +600
    Webb Simpson +1200
    Collin Morikawa +2000
    Rory McIlroy +2000
    Bryson DeChambeau +2200
    Xander Schauffele +2500
    Daniel Berger +2800
    Hideki Matsuyama +2800
    Harris English +5000
    Tony Finau +5000
    Brendon Todd +6600
    Patrick Reed +6600
    Sung-Jae Im +8000
    Scottie Scheffler +10000
    Tyrrell Hatton +10000
    Joaquin Niemann +15000
    Kevin Kisner +15000
    Sebastian Munoz +15000
    Viktor Hovland +15000
    Billy Horschel +20000
    Abraham Ancer +25000
    Cameron Champ +25000
    Lanto Griffin +25000
    Ryan Palmer +25000
    Cameron Smith +30000
    Kevin Na +40000
    Mackenzie Hughes +40000
    Marc Leishman +50000

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    its a fair format for the golfers


    very pathetic for the viewer

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    I don't support this format. The only bettable plays are JT and Webb.

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    This shit might be “unbettable” from a future standpoint, matchups here we go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unrivaled View Post
    I don't support this format. The only bettable plays are JT and Webb.
    i was thinking morikawa or bryson

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    tournament matchup

    bryson dechambeau +500 vs dustin johnson

    maybe it's time for a let down for dj 1st then playoff loss 2nd, he didn't play that well last year here at east lake

    what is 6 shots anyways


    let's go bryson

    400 to win 2000


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    tournament matchup rory mcilroy +400 vs jon rahm

    hoping for a let down from rahm who has been playing unreal , rory won here last year

    only 5 shots behind that's nothing to make up over 4 rounds

    400 to win 1600

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    Justin Thomas -7

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    Rory +400 damn suhn Rory gonna get Rahmmed in the keyster this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    Rory +400 damn suhn Rory gonna get Rahmmed in the keyster this week.
    i tbink gonna win both
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    All I'm saying is Rahm's hunting keyster and is probably going to rahm it good.

    Tough spot for the Rorster.

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    this doesn't seem right


    Despite No. 13 ranking, Tour Championship berth Daniel Berger won’t play at Masters

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/despite...170047325.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    this doesn't seem right


    Despite No. 13 ranking, Tour Championship berth Daniel Berger won’t play at Masters

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/despite...170047325.html
    Weird, he would definitely be on my watch list at the Masters with his ball striking.

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    how does this work? they just start from these scores? they play all 4 rounds and a cut?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonegambler23 View Post
    how does this work? they just start from these scores? they play all 4 rounds and a cut?
    start with these scores, no cut

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    bubba will win the masters anyway
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    As a reference, where they started in 2019:


    10 under: Thomas

    8 under: Patrick Cantlay

    7 under: Brooks Koepka

    6 under: Patrick Reed

    5 under: Rory McIlroy

    4 under: Jon Rahm, Matt Kuchar, Xander Schauffele, Webb Simpson, Abraham Ancer

    3 under: Gary Woodland, Tony Finau, Adam Scott, Dustin Johnson, Hideki Matsuyama

    2 under: Paul Casey, Justin Rose, Brandt Snedeker, Rickie Fowler, Kevin Kisner

    1 under: Marc Leishman, Tommy Fleetwood, Corey Conners, Sungjae Im, Chez Reavie

    Even par: Bryson DeChambeau, Louis Oosthuizen, Charles Howell III, Lucas Glover, Jason Kokrak


    And how it finished:

    https://www.pgatour.com/competition/...aderboard.html

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    LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES)

    brendan todd +6600
    kevin kisner +3000

    why not uga

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    I've bet Webb Simpson and Collin Morikawa

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    I don’t like this format on the final tournament

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    Finau...not jordan spieth

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    rudy who do u like

    lowest 72 hole score excluding starting score


    DUSTIN JOHNSON +510
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7652 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) JON RAHM +600
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7653 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) RORY MCILROY +900
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7654 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) JUSTIN THOMAS +1000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7655 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) XANDER SCHAUFFELE +1100
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7656 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) WEBB SIMPSON +1300
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7657 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) BRYSON DECHAMBEAU +1500
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7658 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) DANIEL BERGER +1400
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7659 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) COLLIN MORIKAWA +1400
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7660 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) TONY FINAU +1700
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7661 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) HIDEKI MATSUYAMA +1900
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7662 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) TYRRELL HATTON +2800
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7663 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) SCOTTIE SCHEFFLER +2400
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7664 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) KEVIN KISNER +2800
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7665 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) PATRICK REED +3400
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7666 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) BILLY HORSCHEL +2900
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7667 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) HARRIS ENGLISH +4000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7668 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) VIKTOR HOVLAND +4000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7669 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) JOAQUIN NIEMANN +5900
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7670 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) BRENDON TODD +4800
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7671 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) ABRAHAM ANCER +7000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7672 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) SUNGJAE IM +7000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7673 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) RYAN PALMER +8000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7674 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) CAMERON CHAMP +8000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7675 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) MACKENZIE HUGHES +8000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7676 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) LANTO GRIFFIN +10000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7677 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) CAMERON SMITH +10000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7678 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) KEVIN NA +10000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7679 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) SEBASTIAN MUNOZ +10000
    Sep 04 - 12:00 PM 7680 LOWEST 72 HOLE SCORE (EXCLUDING STARTING STROKES) MARC LEISHMAN +10000

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    We have another long course here at East Lake in Atlanta.

    It's another Par 70 and it stretches about 7,350 yards and is similar to last week as far as average fairway widths, much more narrow than TPC Boston.

    Here's what I know...The fairway is Meyer Zoysiagrass and the rough is only 2.5" but am told it's a bitch with the Tifway Bermudagrass.

    Greens are also a bermudagrass known as MiniVerde UltraDwarf and I see the stimp as 12.5.

    They set this thing up so that the 18th hole can provide drama as a par 5 590 yarder.

    Not so sure this course is all about the long hitters though, there needs to be accuracy off the tee. I count 6 par 4's at more than 450 yards and after the 6th hole par 5 you don't see another par 5 until that 18th hole. That means there needs to be tight play in between and hitting out of the Tifway Bermuda rough is not ideal, not to mention the trees.

    That par 3 15th looks cool with the green and trap nearly surrounded by water. I think water comes into play on at least 4 of the holes.

    These greens should be pretty fast with the 12.5 stimp and they have a back to front slant or pitch. Placement on the green will be important here as golfers don't want to be putting downhill with the expected speeds of the greens.

    We need a ball striker here that has been accurate off the fairways, has been a scrambler, and controls his putter in recent performance metrics.

    Speaking of needs, we also need a golfer that is stong in recent performance in a few of my strokes gained metrics. I'm looking around the green, at putting, and overall rankings in particular.

    Speaking of speaking of the needs we need we have to consider the odds when measured against these metrics.

    Brendon Todd is as accurate off the tee as any golfer out there as far as my recent performance skill stats are concerned. An argument can be made for Morikawa being #1 on my list, but Todd is right there. Todd is top 15 on my scrambling and putting average per greens in regulation.

    When it comes my recent strokes gained metrics I have Todd top 5 around the green, top 10 in putting, and overall top 15 relative to the field.

    He's accurate off the tee and skillful with the short game but the best thing is that he pays pretty well considering his current skill level on a course where even the best golfers of today and their long wild hitting can be equalized.

    I've avoided the staggered start and BM has the best odds for both bets when I went ahead and picked up...

    Brendon Todd +5250 lowest 72 hole score.
    Brendon Todd +2628 lowest first round score (excluding handicap).

    Good Luck.


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    KVB tremendous breakdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    We have another long course here at East Lake in Atlanta.

    It's another Par 70 and it stretches about 7,350 yards and is similar to last week as far as average fairway widths, much more narrow than TPC Boston.

    Here's what I know...The fairway is Meyer Zoysiagrass and the rough is only 2.5" but am told it's a bitch with the Tifway Bermudagrass.

    Greens are also a bermudagrass known as MiniVerde UltraDwarf and I see the stimp as 12.5.

    They set this thing up so that the 18th hole can provide drama as a par 5 590 yarder.

    Not so sure this course is all about the long hitters though, there needs to be accuracy off the tee. I count 6 par 4's at more than 450 yards and after the 6th hole par 5 you don't see another par 5 until that 18th hole. That means there needs to be tight play in between and hitting out of the Tifway Bermuda rough is not ideal, not to mention the trees.

    That par 3 15th looks cool with the green and trap nearly surrounded by water. I think water comes into play on at least 4 of the holes.

    These greens should be pretty fast with the 12.5 stimp and they have a back to front slant or pitch. Placement on the green will be important here as golfers don't want to be putting downhill with the expected speeds of the greens.

    We need a ball striker here that has been accurate off the fairways, has been a scrambler, and controls his putter in recent performance metrics.

    Speaking of needs, we also need a golfer that is stong in recent performance in a few of my strokes gained metrics. I'm looking around the green, at putting, and overall rankings in particular.

    Speaking of speaking of the needs we need we have to consider the odds when measured against these metrics.

    Brendon Todd is as accurate off the tee as any golfer out there as far as my recent performance skill stats are concerned. An argument can be made for Morikawa being #1 on my list, but Todd is right there. Todd is top 15 on my scrambling and putting average per greens in regulation.

    When it comes my recent strokes gained metrics I have Todd top 5 around the green, top 10 in putting, and overall top 15 relative to the field.

    He's accurate off the tee and skillful with the short game but the best thing is that he pays pretty well considering his current skill level on a course where even the best golfers of today and their long wild hitting can be equalized.

    I've avoided the staggered start and BM has the best odds for both bets when I went ahead and picked up...

    Brendon Todd +5250 lowest 72 hole score.
    Brendon Todd +2628 lowest first round score (excluding handicap).

    Good Luck.

    i like todd too, let's get some brendan
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    Quote Originally Posted by KVB View Post
    ...Brendon Todd +5250 lowest 72 hole score.
    Brendon Todd +2628 lowest first round score (excluding handicap)...
    I actually made a typo here with that +2628. That was the BM line but I also picked it up at BOL...

    Brendon Todd +3300 lowest round 1 score (starting strokes do not count).

    I added a third unit to the tourney and picked up...

    Brendon Todd +225 Top 10 Finish

    This bet will count the staggered start and is available at BOL and Heritage.

    Good Luck.




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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    KVB tremendous breakdown

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnatikid513 View Post
    tournament matchup rory mcilroy +400 vs jon rahm

    hoping for a let down from rahm who has been playing unreal , rory won here last year

    only 5 shots behind that's nothing to make up over 4 rounds


    400 to win 1600
    3 rounds

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    This will come down to putting not drives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    3 rounds
    4 rounds, fri - monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    3 rounds

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    Quote Originally Posted by pimike View Post
    This will come down to putting not drives.
    Like every tournament, lol.

    But you can lose this one on the drive and it will equalize some of the long guys. Like I said, it's all 3 cmponents you'll need for this one.

    Rory dead on with his drive on the first hole, nailed the 2nd, giving him the 6-7 footer.

    That's how this tourney gets won.

    Rory on the first hole...

    Shot 3 in the hole
    Shot 2 139 yds to green, 6 ft 6 in. to hole
    Shot 1 331 yds to left fairway, 137 yds to hole

    It's going to be tough to compete with a hot Rory McIlroy on this course. Shit, it's tough to compete with a hot Rory anywhere, but this weekend a guy like Rory can devour this field.

    But I took Todd for the number too so maybe we get a first round low score and get out with a profit right away.

    Maybe...lol.



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    Rory sharp to start, here's hole #2...

    Shot 3 in the hole
    Shot 2 putt 27 ft 11 in., 3 ft 1 in. to hole
    Shot 1 198 yds to green, 30 ft 5 in. to hole




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    KVB settle down as we all
    Know these leaderboards move around

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    Quote Originally Posted by jjgold View Post
    KVB settle down as we all
    Know these leaderboards move around
    lol, just making the point about what it takes to succeed on this course.

    Check out my boy Todd, -3 through 7 and looking for that lowest 1st round score.


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